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The overwhelming public response to his murder has been surprising to me but am happy to see it….or most of it.
Charlie Kirk shot.
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Can you think of any time in the United States prior to this where a high-profile Christian has been "Martyred" for his faith in Christ?
May God help us if we as a nation ever become cold and calloused to such a thing.
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I had no idea Charlie Kirk thought this way about John MacArthur.
I would liken him more to a Nathan Hale than to a John Hus.
A Christian, yes, but shot for doing his civic duty engaging in political discourse.
I think he was shot due to his political beliefs, particularly the trans issue. TBH, I didn’t even know he was a Christian. In my mind he’s like a Ben Shapiro, who is Jewish.
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The Great Divide in Churches
I didn’t realize Charlie Kirk’s death affected churches the way Todd Friel describes it in this video where people are leaving their churches over whether the pastor talked about the murder of such a well known figure associated with debating non-Christians on college campuses around the United States. I know there are extreme positions on both sides of the issue.
I’m not attacking my pastor behind his back; I’m just going to give some examples of his philosophy on mentioning current events from behind the pulpit. In the 2020 election a member of the church put out some voter guides concerning the Presidential election and they were immediately confiscated. In the 2024 election not one word was mentioned about voting except when he admitted he voted but was ashamed of it. He has said that he doesn’t want our church to be known for being against abortion. He wants to see just as many Democrat stickers in the parking lot as well as Republican and says he will not speak on homosexuality unless it happens to be in the text he is preaching on. Last Sunday when someone asked him if he was going to mention the Charlie Kirk murder, his reply was “who is that?” They told him who they were talking about with the same reply and he refused to even mention the murder one time other than telling us he had no idea who Charlie Kirk is.
One could go to the other extreme and constantly talk about politics behind the pulpit and forget the main purpose of preaching the gospel. Todd Friel is perplexed just as many Christians are as to where the balance lies. Its hard to stay balanced in such a world we now live in. As Todd says, “we are breathing cultural air.”
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This doesn't surprise me at all.
No, Charlie Kirk was not a "minister" in the ecclesiastical sense but he was a believer who held to his faith and to the notion that believers are not to relegate themselves only to ecclesiastical concerns. We are in this world to not only preach the Gospel but to live it out and firmly, with love and respect, stand against the prevailing chords of darkness and hypocrisy in the public square. I believe Charlie Kirk embodied this spirit better than anyone else.
While I respect the likes of Ben Shapiro and others who would make similar stands, they lack the biblical foundations that Charlie based not only his political views on but his life itself.
Here's an article about the pastor he referenced when he was eulogizing John MacArthur.