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aleshanee said:JustABigKid said:aleshanee said:JustABigKid said:Actually the ball of drug testing is already in place for those who do work. I dare say that there is not a single employer that does not have some sort of drug testing policy. I had to take a drug test to begin my current employment and I have to take random test regularly to maintain my employment. It is as simple as that. If a working person has to do it then someone who is getting my tax dollars for free should to.
And I would be more than ok to take a drug test just to keep my license. I already have to do it to keep my job and I need my license to get to my job.
There are rules set up for those who have ligimate situations that require they need assistance in things like bus passes, etc. I am not being heartless here but if you would have seen the people I met for almost 2 years every single day you would be ok with Drug Testing as well especially when you see how they waste your hard earned tax dollars.
i have seen it.... my dad has been a firefighter paramedic with the state for over 25 years and he has seen it too..... he is also in the same boat you are in when it comes to random drug testing....... but in both your cases you can only tested while on the job..... in the case of what they are suggesting for people like me who receive any kind of public assistance... we would be subject to getting calls telling us to proceed to the testing lab any time of day or night.... 24-7 ..... and like i said ..... (and my dad supports me on this... he doesn;t believe i should have to submit to testing like that either).... people will see me back behind the wheel of a car again before that happens.... :-\.....
there are better ways to keep tax money from being wasted.... than by infringing on the rights of others in a way now, that will only result in your own rights being infringed upon in the future...... or to put it in the words of aesop.... freedom is too high a price to pay for satisfaction....
I believe that there could be some stipulations for people with specific health problems to eliminate them from the process. I am not saying someone who has some sort of disability be that much more troubled with loopholes. I am talking about those that could and should be working but do not chose to do so because of welfare.
Some people on welfare consider that their job. They spend their days do the appropriate items to check the boxes so they can get next month's money. So why shouldn't they have to be under the same requirements.
i know what you mean.... and i definitely understand the sentiments..... but there is what we think should happen... and there;s what we hope will happen.... and then there is the reality we are left with when we allow to government to pass a law we thought was only going to be for the best ..... but which the fine print and attachments spelled out something entirely different.... i;ll do what i have to do to drive again before i submit to random drug testing just to keep a free bus pass .... they tell me i have to ride a bus with some of the dregs of society as it is.... i;ll be back behind the wheel of a car again ... or just go ankle express everywhere i go... before i let them treat me like i;m the dregs too.....
I know that in one town I lived in they had a transportation service offered by one of the local government groups. They would give people rides to doctors, grocery store, etc as needed. The doctor would have to write up the referral once every 3 months as to the need. They had small what I call "people mover" buses or would pick up in minivans. It was only for those who really needed it. It was a great service and the city and the people of the city were more than happy to have it in their budget.
Check around and see if your city has something similar.