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http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/04/06/church-fight-club-pits-pastor-vs-pastor/

"A new documentary examines the relationship between Christianity and mixed martial arts as it follows a group of pugilistic pastors who would rather beat each other up in the cage than do as Jesus [did] and turn the other cheek."

Maybe it's because I'm getting older, but this kind of stuff is really beginning to turn my stomach.

Would like to hear your thoughts.
 
The first rule of Fight Club is not to talk about Fight Club.

Seriously, though, disgusting.  I don't understand the appeal of MMA, other than it makes a lot of posers think they are "fighters."  By posers, I mean those guys who have tactical pens, tactical flashlights, tactical toilet paper, and have never spent 1 day in service or combat but feel they are the toughest thing since Dolph Lundgren.

It's the guys that DON'T brag that you have to watch out for.
 
CONSPIRATOR said:
By posers, I mean those guys who have tactical pens, tactical flashlights, tactical toilet paper, and have never spent 1 day in service or combat but feel they are the toughest thing since Dolph Lundgren.

On the other hand, you're never at a disadvantage with tactical bacon.

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Do any of you have a chapter and verse as to why this would be wrong?
 
Bruh said:
Do any of you have a chapter and verse as to why this would be wrong?

How about "not violent but gentle" as a qualification for a pastor (1 Tim. 3:3)? Christian leadership is called to be peaceful, not pugilistic.
 
HeDied4U said:
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/04/06/church-fight-club-pits-pastor-vs-pastor/

"A new documentary examines the relationship between Christianity and mixed martial arts as it follows a group of pugilistic pastors who would rather beat each other up in the cage than do as Jesus [did] and turn the other cheek."

Maybe it's because I'm getting older, but this kind of stuff is really beginning to turn my stomach.

Would like to hear your thoughts.

It is the logical outcome of a generation of American Christianity that has been raised on pragmatism. ...and it's going to get worse, not better.
 
admin said:
I was about to say that I could have pummeled every Sr Pastor I worked for. Looks like I missed out on a good money maker!

Ok. That is just too funny...

:D
 
MMA served a great purpose for the martial artist. It originally started as a contest between martial arts(karate vs KungFu vs Judo etc) and became a reality check for those whose disciplines were little more useful in application than ballet. This is much like what Bruce Lee did with JKD with the elimination of wasted motion. Were learned the value of contact fighting and grappling in a big way.

As far as the sport..it's now bloody, brutal and almost boring.  Never been to a live event. Don't care to.

I knew a pastor or two fascinated with these contests. One (this will shock you) was a close buddy of Matt Jarrell. There wasn't something right about it or him..then or now. To some it's nothing more than the ability to dominate another man. We have enough of this mentality in the multitude of bully pulpits of the IFB and other places. It is carnality in all CAPS.
 
I first began studying Wado Ryu Karate 45 years ago. Yes, I am a purist and I'm of the opinion that MMA is a bad joke. It's a way for semi skilled brutes who all look alike to pummel each other. There's little skill involved. It's mainly brute force. It's also very dangerous and needs severe regulation.


ChuckBob
 
I started with Shorin-ryu Karate some 38 years ago, then switched to Shito-ryu Karate.

Currently I train in JKD in the lineage of Dan Inosanto, one of the two men whom Bruce Lee authorized as JKD instructors.

In my observation, some of the MMA fighters are very skilled, others not so much.
 
HeDied4U said:
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/04/06/church-fight-club-pits-pastor-vs-pastor/

"A new documentary examines the relationship between Christianity and mixed martial arts as it follows a group of pugilistic pastors who would rather beat each other up in the cage than do as Jesus [did] and turn the other cheek."

Maybe it's because I'm getting older, but this kind of stuff is really beginning to turn my stomach.

Would like to hear your thoughts.

pastor vs. pedophile pastor might be interesting to watch.

I might be interested in the video game version. Nothing like some Smash Pastors! Jack Hyles vs. Dr. James Kennedy!  :o

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Tom Brennan said:
HeDied4U said:
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/04/06/church-fight-club-pits-pastor-vs-pastor/

"A new documentary examines the relationship between Christianity and mixed martial arts as it follows a group of pugilistic pastors who would rather beat each other up in the cage than do as Jesus [did] and turn the other cheek."

Maybe it's because I'm getting older, but this kind of stuff is really beginning to turn my stomach.

Would like to hear your thoughts.

It is the logical outcome of a generation of American Christianity that has been raised on pragmatism. ...and it's going to get worse, not better.

Yes, because there is no such thing as a slippery slope.  <sarcasm> 
 
I do not like fighting, Sam I Am.
 
The Romans used to enjoy watching gladiators kill each other in the arena.  It was the influence of Christianity that brought an end to this practice.  The Bible says that at the end of the age many will fall away from the faith.  As the influence of Christianity on our culture weakens it is likely we will see a return to the kind of the kind of entertainment the Romans enjoyed.
 
Sorry folks, this is nothing new. We had Christian fight club when I was younger, called church business meetings.
 
4everfsu said:
Sorry folks, this is nothing new. We had Christian fight club when I was younger, called church business meetings.

If that brazen hussy in the pants had kept her mouth shut like women are supposed to in the church house ...  ;D
 
subllibrm said:
4everfsu said:
Sorry folks, this is nothing new. We had Christian fight club when I was younger, called church business meetings.

If that brazen hussy in the pants had kept her mouth shut like women are supposed to in the church house ...  ;D

Our old Church didn't allow women in the business meetings. Men only.
 
aleshanee said:
Izdaari said:
I started with Shorin-ryu Karate some 38 years ago, then switched to Shito-ryu Karate.

Currently I train in JKD in the lineage of Dan Inosanto, one of the two men whom Bruce Lee authorized as JKD instructors.

In my observation, some of the MMA fighters are very skilled, others not so much.

my brothers and sister were taught jeet kun do when they were teenagers by someone who was also a second generation student of bruce lee...... (taught by an authorized jkd instructor)...... in the 1980s he came to hawaii and started his own martial arts school called progressive streetfighting combat systems....... i never got enrolled in the classes myself but i loved to go watch because the instructor also did stunt work for the movies and tv......  :).... but i heard recently he is now one of the top promoters and trainers for hawaiis mma cage fighting industry.....  :-\ ...

i have only seen shorts clips from hawaii cage fighting on tv and so far i haven;t seen the fighters do anything that even closely resembled what i saw him teaching at his school years ago...... it looked more like a combination of 2 drunks wrestling and a bloody down on the ground schoolyard pummeling ......

Very cool about your siblings training in JKD.  8)

Was the teacher possibly Paul Vunak who runs Progressive Fighting Systems?

But I really hope Hawaii cage fighting is better than what you saw that time.
 
aleshanee said:
Izdaari said:
Very cool about your siblings training in JKD.  8)

Was the teacher possibly Paul Vunak who runs Progressive Fighting Systems?

But I really hope Hawaii cage fighting is better than what you saw that time.

no... it was herman cobile.... long before i ever moved here he was doing stunt work on magnum pi.... then later on a show called the raven and pretty much every other tv show and movie that has been filmed in hawaii since then.... his school was progressive streetfighting combat systems......

to be honest with you i wish they would ban cage fighting in hawaii and put an end to it altogether..... but realistically i know they probably won;t coz it brings in a lot of revenue for all parties involved... including the state ....... and revenue seems to be all that matters these days..... but what bothers me most about it is how even young children get caught up in it and even talk about "cage fighting" being the career they want when they grow up...... at a recent career day event at a local elementary school that my dad took part in ... he said that among the various people.. (firefighters, police, doctors, nurses etc...)... who showed up to talk about their jobs.... they also had a professional mma cage fighter come in to tell the kids all about what he did for a living and tell how he got started in the cage fighting business...... guess who was the favorite guest among the kids?....

this thing is a blight on our culture.... and no less an ominous sign for our country than the obsession for gladiatorial combat was for the ancient romans..... what is it we are trying to become when we invite cage fighters to elementary schools and let them solicit for recruits?........ like i said before.... God help us.......
Playgrounds have always been the place where gladiators are recruited.  It is what we men do.  We fight. 
If you weren't Navajo, I'd appeal to your people's History, but, alas yours is the History of peaceful skilled tradesmen.
But, your Aztec side would remember.
American's have gotten weak.
Abraham Lincoln was a heavyweight champ.
Read of David's mighty men.

Men should learn to fight, to fight evil men, who will always be here.

MMA is boring, but at least it is once again teaching men to lose their fear  of getting hit.

I do think that the cage takes away some of the skill that they would otherwise have to employ, and would maybe watch, if they removed it.
But the fact is, most impromptu fights end in grappling on the ground, so MMA is prepping men to defend themselves and others.

Anishinaabe

 
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