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I know very little about this school. Anybody got a description that would be understandable by an old HACker?
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Just me said:
That's curious. I have only heard the pastor there preach one time, but he made much of his sermon a rip on JH for trying to motivate people to go soul winning.
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Just me said:
I believe it was Sam Davison - it was a few years ago. Not associated with any one church??? I thought it was a part of the ministry of that church? Like I said, I don't know much about it.
Binaca Chugger said:
Sam Davison stepped down from being the Pastor of Southwest Baptist 2 years ago and turned it over to Jason Gaddis. Sam Davison did remain as the president of Heatland but they claim no one church affiliation. They are not like OBC, located less than 2 miles up the road from them, which is a direct ministry of Windsor Hills Baptist Church.
Of course SWBC is loaded with Sunday School teachers who are students at Heartland as well as bus workers who are also Hearland students. As welll as the balcony at SWBC is full every service with the Heartland college kids. go figure
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Just me said:
But no affiliation? Interesting. Maybe Mr. Davison didn't like Bro. Hyles promotion of numbers, but it sounds like he is duplicating the number factory.
So, who is in charge of the college? How would it relate to old school HAC?
Sam Davison is the president of the college but he travels alot. The men and women running the place are a collection from various places. Unfortunatlely their rulebook continues to increase in size and ridiculousness and their enforcement is going the IFBx route of control and manipulation.
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Just me said:
Soooo....... Very similar to what I would be accustomed to? Interesting.
The Church I got saved in (Liberty Baptist Church, Lewisville Tx) is affiliated with Heartland. Heartland is where they send their preacher boys.
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Well, let me clear the air. Anyone at Heartland will tell you that they are a ministry of SWBC. That is first. Second: There is NO LIKENESS with HAC. The "girls" don't sing the praises of the "MAN-A-GAWD," there is no perversion on staff, and the teaching of preaching is centered around STUDY and EXPOSITION, rather than "now put your Bibles down and listen to me!" Men are not lifted up...the LORD is lifted up. The rules are not ridiculous, rather, they are practical. I am very pleased with the growth of my daughter at Heartland, the attitude and professionalism of the staff, and the love they have for the students.
BTW: The school up the road is basically the same cult it has always been...a crude copy of HAC, predicated on lies (JV) and mind control, ripped by sex scandals, and a destroyer of people and families. You are right when you say that OBC and HBBC are NOTHING like each other.
BTW: The school up the road is basically the same cult it has always been...a crude copy of HAC, predicated on lies (JV) and mind control, ripped by sex scandals, and a destroyer of people and families. You are right when you say that OBC and HBBC are NOTHING like each other.
Go to the following link on Heatlands official web site.
http://www.heartlandbaptist.edu/626589.ihtml
At the bottom of the page it says this:
Approvals
Heartland Baptist Bible College seeks no national or regional accreditation, but seeks only God’s approval. The college chooses to be accredited by the pastors and churches that support the college and other who are part of the “Friends of Heartland,†which is a loose affiliation of pastors, missionaries, evangelists, and other individuals, who by choice, share a common interest in accomplishing the purposes of Heartland Baptist Bible College.
Heartland is an independent educational institution, not governed by any convention or religious movement or fellowship, and the college chooses to remain independent of any governmental or quasi-governmental controls and approvals.
Although I agree Heatland is deeply tied to Southwest Baptist Church. Heartland does not acknowledge that association. It claims independence.
http://www.heartlandbaptist.edu/626589.ihtml
At the bottom of the page it says this:
Approvals
Heartland Baptist Bible College seeks no national or regional accreditation, but seeks only God’s approval. The college chooses to be accredited by the pastors and churches that support the college and other who are part of the “Friends of Heartland,†which is a loose affiliation of pastors, missionaries, evangelists, and other individuals, who by choice, share a common interest in accomplishing the purposes of Heartland Baptist Bible College.
Heartland is an independent educational institution, not governed by any convention or religious movement or fellowship, and the college chooses to remain independent of any governmental or quasi-governmental controls and approvals.
Although I agree Heatland is deeply tied to Southwest Baptist Church. Heartland does not acknowledge that association. It claims independence.
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jarhed said:
Curious to know exactly what you are talking about with the red highlighted part of the comment?
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Really...did you just arrive on planet Earth? The "culture" at HBC = that of WHBC. That is well established. Both places have also sent their predators forth, whenever possible, to prey on other sheep. Unfortunately for him, JS is now prey, rather than predator...but rest assured, if not for the bars of iron, he would be "leading" a flock somewhere!
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jarhed said:
I know that the "culture" is the same. I lived in it for quite a while. The question on the sex scandal is what I was wondering about. I have heard of problems but no sex scandals have come up unless you would like to enlighten us. I don't disagree with you on how they have hurt so many.
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jarhed
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I'll get you started in the right direction...research they're past music leaders.
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Heartland Baptist Bible College is NOT associated with FBC of Hammond. It is really not associated with any church. Sam Davison, the president of the school, is the Pastor Emeritus of Southwest Baptist Church (SW OKC). Students have the liberty to choose which church they want to attend. Roughly 70% of the full-time students attend SWBC because it is close and there are plenty of opportunities to serve. Sam Davison and Jason Gaddis (the current Pastor) DO NOT persuade the students to attend at SWBC. There are plenty of great churches in the area.
Second, the "rule book" is not a law book. It is just a set of guidelines that every student agrees to follow.
The focus is on the Word of God preached in its context in an expository format. The Homiletics classes are phenomenal. This school really expresses its love of God's Word. The staff are all strong leaders that have the same vision. I stand up to anyone who would speak ill of any of them.
I love Heartland Baptist Bible College and I believe it is the premier Bible College in America as far as preaching goes.
-A 2011 HBBC Graduate
Second, the "rule book" is not a law book. It is just a set of guidelines that every student agrees to follow.
The focus is on the Word of God preached in its context in an expository format. The Homiletics classes are phenomenal. This school really expresses its love of God's Word. The staff are all strong leaders that have the same vision. I stand up to anyone who would speak ill of any of them.
I love Heartland Baptist Bible College and I believe it is the premier Bible College in America as far as preaching goes.
-A 2011 HBBC Graduate