Did Abraham "pimp" his wife?

Tim said:
praise_yeshua said:
rsc2a said:
It's obvious. I believe this because I'm an infidel, FSSL because he's stupid, John because he didn't like PY, and the next person because they are a sock puppet.

PY is the only person who has ever known the truth and he's the smartest person who has ever lived.

I've pissed all of you off at one time or another.

I've only claimed you've had one sock. I still believe you do. I never said you was an infidel. I said you got what you said about Abraham and Sarah from infidels.

I've given you a hard time based on what you believe. Its dangerous and damaging. Go hug your kids and kiss your wife. Feel good about yourself. Get that hero complex back in order. You'll feel better. Who cares about the truth. You don't. If you did. Then you wouldn't have called Abraham a pimp and Sarah a whore based on your little understand of Scriptures. You obviously can't handle theology. You can't. Its beyond you. You're too easily influenced and entirely lacking experience. You're just half a step above Timmie.

Feel better?

Do you?

 
Tim said:
praise_yeshua said:
Tim said:
praise_yeshua said:
rsc2a said:
It's obvious. I believe this because I'm an infidel, FSSL because he's stupid, John because he didn't like PY, and the next person because they are a sock puppet.

PY is the only person who has ever known the truth and he's the smartest person who has ever lived.

I've pissed all of you off at one time or another.

I've only claimed you've had one sock. I still believe you do. I never said you was an infidel. I said you got what you said about Abraham and Sarah from infidels.

I've given you a hard time based on what you believe. Its dangerous and damaging. Go hug your kids and kiss your wife. Feel good about yourself. Get that hero complex back in order. You'll feel better. Who cares about the truth. You don't. If you did. Then you wouldn't have called Abraham a pimp and Sarah a whore based on your little understand of Scriptures. You obviously can't handle theology. You can't. Its beyond you. You're too easily influenced and entirely lacking experience. You're just half a step above Timmie.

Feel better?

Do you?

Yes. I actually logged off and rested for awhile.

Good. I hope you have a pumpkin spiced latte and find you someone that will kill you for your faith. That way.... you can die a martyer. Fulfill your DREAM.

I've got a suggestion for you. Get on a plane. Take a trip to Syria. Stand out in the middle of the desert and claim your loyalty to Christ.
 
praise_yeshua said:
I've pissed all of you off at one time or another.

Arrogant bullies tend to do that.

I've only claimed you've had one sock. I still believe you do. I never said you was an infidel. I said you got what you said about Abraham and Sarah from infidels.

Interesting....

praise_yeshua said:
Are you another sock of rsca?

Clearly, I made that up. Oh yeah...

"I must say. I think it goes a long way in identifying just what kind of "person" rsc2a is. I have never seen a Christian make this kind of claim. Infidels, agnostics, and atheists.... Yes. " - PY

...now that we've established that you're a liar...

I've given you a hard time based on what you believe. Its dangerous and damaging. Go hug your kids and kiss your wife. Feel good about yourself. Get that hero complex back in order. You'll feel better. Who cares about the truth. You don't. If you did. Then you wouldn't have called Abraham a pimp and Sarah a whore based on your little understand of Scriptures. You obviously can't handle theology. You can't. Its beyond you. You're too easily influenced and entirely lacking experience. You're just half a step above Timmie.

Tell us again how Sarah talked Abraham out of his decision!
 
rsc2a said:
praise_yeshua said:
Are you another sock of rsca?

Clearly, I made that up. Oh yeah...

I know that recovering wasn't. I was poking at him for wanting to agree with you even though you two can't be further apart.......... theologically speaking.

I've already explained this to you multiple times. Again. You're being dishonest in representing what I said.

"I must say. I think it goes a long way in identifying just what kind of "person" rsc2a is. I have never seen a Christian make this kind of claim. Infidels, agnostics, and atheists.... Yes. " - PY

...now that we've established that you're a liar...

Yes. I said that. I stand by it. No. I don't call you an infidel. Christians sometimes use foolish sources for information.

Tell us again how Sarah talked Abraham out of his decision!

I've explained this multiple times too. You're being dishonest. I didn't knowing say this in reference to your claims of Sarah being a whore and Abraham being a "pimp".
 
Tim said:
praise_yeshua said:
Tim said:
praise_yeshua said:
Tim said:
praise_yeshua said:
rsc2a said:
It's obvious. I believe this because I'm an infidel, FSSL because he's stupid, John because he didn't like PY, and the next person because they are a sock puppet.

PY is the only person who has ever known the truth and he's the smartest person who has ever lived.

I've pissed all of you off at one time or another.

I've only claimed you've had one sock. I still believe you do. I never said you was an infidel. I said you got what you said about Abraham and Sarah from infidels.

I've given you a hard time based on what you believe. Its dangerous and damaging. Go hug your kids and kiss your wife. Feel good about yourself. Get that hero complex back in order. You'll feel better. Who cares about the truth. You don't. If you did. Then you wouldn't have called Abraham a pimp and Sarah a whore based on your little understand of Scriptures. You obviously can't handle theology. You can't. Its beyond you. You're too easily influenced and entirely lacking experience. You're just half a step above Timmie.

Feel better?

Do you?

Yes. I actually logged off and rested for awhile.

Good. I hope you have a pumpkin spiced latte and find you someone that will kill you for your faith. That way.... you can die a martyer. Fulfill your DREAM.

I've got a suggestion for you. Get on a plane. Take a trip to Syria. Stand out in the middle of the desert and claim your loyalty to Christ.

That sounds silly & foolish to me. Are you drinking - so early in the morning????

Nope. Just making the point you can find someone to kill you for your faith. Now... go prove your faith by being a martyr. Don't be a coward.
 
Tim said:
praise_yeshua said:
Tim said:
praise_yeshua said:
Tim said:
praise_yeshua said:
Tim said:
praise_yeshua said:
rsc2a said:
It's obvious. I believe this because I'm an infidel, FSSL because he's stupid, John because he didn't like PY, and the next person because they are a sock puppet.

PY is the only person who has ever known the truth and he's the smartest person who has ever lived.

I've pissed all of you off at one time or another.

I've only claimed you've had one sock. I still believe you do. I never said you was an infidel. I said you got what you said about Abraham and Sarah from infidels.

I've given you a hard time based on what you believe. Its dangerous and damaging. Go hug your kids and kiss your wife. Feel good about yourself. Get that hero complex back in order. You'll feel better. Who cares about the truth. You don't. If you did. Then you wouldn't have called Abraham a pimp and Sarah a whore based on your little understand of Scriptures. You obviously can't handle theology. You can't. Its beyond you. You're too easily influenced and entirely lacking experience. You're just half a step above Timmie.

Feel better?

Do you?

Yes. I actually logged off and rested for awhile.

Good. I hope you have a pumpkin spiced latte and find you someone that will kill you for your faith. That way.... you can die a martyer. Fulfill your DREAM.

I've got a suggestion for you. Get on a plane. Take a trip to Syria. Stand out in the middle of the desert and claim your loyalty to Christ.

That sounds silly & foolish to me. Are you drinking - so early in the morning????

Nope. Just making the point you can find someone to kill you for your faith. Now... go prove your faith by being a martyr. Don't be a coward.

Who said anything  about proving ones faith? All I said was that I would stand if asked to stand in attention for my Lord. I wouldn't lie. Would you lie? Would you be like Peter and simply say, "I don't know Jesus ..."

After all He has done. Would you lie?

Yes. I would have done what Peter did. Yes. I would have lied.

 
Tim said:
praise_yeshua said:
Tim said:
praise_yeshua said:
Tim said:
praise_yeshua said:
Tim said:
praise_yeshua said:
Tim said:
praise_yeshua said:
rsc2a said:
It's obvious. I believe this because I'm an infidel, FSSL because he's stupid, John because he didn't like PY, and the next person because they are a sock puppet.

PY is the only person who has ever known the truth and he's the smartest person who has ever lived.

I've pissed all of you off at one time or another.

I've only claimed you've had one sock. I still believe you do. I never said you was an infidel. I said you got what you said about Abraham and Sarah from infidels.

I've given you a hard time based on what you believe. Its dangerous and damaging. Go hug your kids and kiss your wife. Feel good about yourself. Get that hero complex back in order. You'll feel better. Who cares about the truth. You don't. If you did. Then you wouldn't have called Abraham a pimp and Sarah a whore based on your little understand of Scriptures. You obviously can't handle theology. You can't. Its beyond you. You're too easily influenced and entirely lacking experience. You're just half a step above Timmie.

Feel better?

Do you?

Yes. I actually logged off and rested for awhile.

Good. I hope you have a pumpkin spiced latte and find you someone that will kill you for your faith. That way.... you can die a martyer. Fulfill your DREAM.

I've got a suggestion for you. Get on a plane. Take a trip to Syria. Stand out in the middle of the desert and claim your loyalty to Christ.

That sounds silly & foolish to me. Are you drinking - so early in the morning????

Nope. Just making the point you can find someone to kill you for your faith. Now... go prove your faith by being a martyr. Don't be a coward.

Who said anything  about proving ones faith? All I said was that I would stand if asked to stand in attention for my Lord. I wouldn't lie. Would you lie? Would you be like Peter and simply say, "I don't know Jesus ..."

After all He has done. Would you lie?

Yes. I would have done what Peter did. Yes. I would have lied.

My pastor recently said that pledges to die for Christ are worthless unless you are willing to live your life like you mean it.

Living sacrifices are good. Peter lived to see another day. Peter lived to find forgiveness.
 
praise_yeshua said:
FSSL said:
praise_yeshua said:
It was a common custom of that time to gift the family of a potential wife. Pharoah was bring nice to the family.

Was it common for God-fearing people to allow their wives to be sexually abused?

No matter how much you don't like the word "pimp," you have not offered any descriptive word for Abraham's actions. <enter the sugar coating>


... and now you actually defend Peter as doing the right thing?

You are importing your own thoughts on the passages. These were mortal men who both caused more problems by their sinful actions.

NO. I wasn't common for Abraham to allow his wife to be sexually abused.

You're importing your own personal failures on the "father of faith". Just what are you trying to justify in your own life by finding it in another?????

I gave a detailed description of what I believe happened. I could care less if you read it or not..... BUT don't say I haven't offered an alternative. YOUR A LIAR.

Abraham lied to to protect those he loved. You, obviously, wouldn't do the same. So much for loving your family.
I am not above ANY potential sinful activity in this world. Neither was Abraham. This is a silly thread. Who cares how Abraham's failure is described. He allowed, on two, premeditated occasions other men to violate his wife.
praise_yeshua said:
rsc2a said:
praise_yeshua said:
Are you another sock of rsca?

Clearly, I made that up. Oh yeah...

I know that recovering wasn't. I was poking at him for wanting to agree with you even though you two can't be further apart.......... theologically speaking.

I've already explained this to you multiple times. Again. You're being dishonest in representing what I said.

"I must say. I think it goes a long way in identifying just what kind of "person" rsc2a is. I have never seen a Christian make this kind of claim. Infidels, agnostics, and atheists.... Yes. " - PY

...now that we've established that you're a liar...

Yes. I said that. I stand by it. No. I don't call you an infidel. Christians sometimes use foolish sources for information.

Tell us again how Sarah talked Abraham out of his decision!

I've explained this multiple times too. You're being dishonest. I didn't knowing say this in reference to your claims of Sarah being a whore and Abraham being a "pimp".
 
praise_yeshua said:
rsc2a said:
praise_yeshua said:
Are you another sock of rsca?

Clearly, I made that up. Oh yeah...

I know that recovering wasn't. I was poking at him for wanting to agree with you even though you two can't be further apart.......... theologically speaking.

I've already explained this to you multiple times. Again. You're being dishonest in representing what I said.

"I never said you had multiple socks. Oh...except that one time. I'm not a liar just because I lie."

And you've never explained this. But you wouldn't lie, would you?

"I must say. I think it goes a long way in identifying just what kind of "person" rsc2a is. I have never seen a Christian make this kind of claim. Infidels, agnostics, and atheists.... Yes. " - PY

...now that we've established that you're a liar...

Yes. I said that. I stand by it. No. I don't call you an infidel. Christians sometimes use foolish sources for information.

"When I said I have never seen a Christian make that argument, I was lying again."

Tell us again how Sarah talked Abraham out of his decision!

I've explained this multiple times too. You're being dishonest. I didn't knowing say this in reference to your claims of Sarah being a whore and Abraham being a "pimp".

"I know I quoted this claim when I screwed up but how was I supposed to know you were talking about this claim that I quoted."
 
FSSL said:
praise_yeshua said:
FSSL said:
praise_yeshua said:
It was a common custom of that time to gift the family of a potential wife. Pharoah was bring nice to the family.

Was it common for God-fearing people to allow their wives to be sexually abused?

No matter how much you don't like the word "pimp," you have not offered any descriptive word for Abraham's actions. <enter the sugar coating>


... and now you actually defend Peter as doing the right thing?

You are importing your own thoughts on the passages. These were mortal men who both caused more problems by their sinful actions.

NO. I wasn't common for Abraham to allow his wife to be sexually abused.

You're importing your own personal failures on the "father of faith". Just what are you trying to justify in your own life by finding it in another?????

I gave a detailed description of what I believe happened. I could care less if you read it or not..... BUT don't say I haven't offered an alternative. YOUR A LIAR.

Abraham lied to to protect those he loved. You, obviously, wouldn't do the same. So much for loving your family.
I am not above ANY potential sinful activity in this world. Neither was Abraham. This is a silly thread. Who cares how Abraham's failure is described. He allowed, on two, premeditated occasions other men to violate his wife.


Liar. No one violated Sarah. Prove it.
 
rsc2a said:
praise_yeshua said:
rsc2a said:
praise_yeshua said:
Are you another sock of rsca?

Clearly, I made that up. Oh yeah...

I know that recovering wasn't. I was poking at him for wanting to agree with you even though you two can't be further apart.......... theologically speaking.

I've already explained this to you multiple times. Again. You're being dishonest in representing what I said.

"I never said you had multiple socks. Oh...except that one time. I'm not a liar just because I lie."

And you've never explained this. But you wouldn't lie, would you?

"I must say. I think it goes a long way in identifying just what kind of "person" rsc2a is. I have never seen a Christian make this kind of claim. Infidels, agnostics, and atheists.... Yes. " - PY

...now that we've established that you're a liar...

Yes. I said that. I stand by it. No. I don't call you an infidel. Christians sometimes use foolish sources for information.

"When I said I have never seen a Christian make that argument, I was lying again."

Tell us again how Sarah talked Abraham out of his decision!

I've explained this multiple times too. You're being dishonest. I didn't knowing say this in reference to your claims of Sarah being a whore and Abraham being a "pimp".

"I know I quoted this claim when I screwed up but how was I supposed to know you were talking about this claim that I quoted."

You're such a weasel!!!

I've tolerated you enough. I explained myself and you refuse to accept it. Go play "theology" with someone else.

 
praise_yeshua said:
FSSL said:
praise_yeshua said:
FSSL said:
praise_yeshua said:
It was a common custom of that time to gift the family of a potential wife. Pharoah was bring nice to the family.

Was it common for God-fearing people to allow their wives to be sexually abused?

No matter how much you don't like the word "pimp," you have not offered any descriptive word for Abraham's actions. <enter the sugar coating>


... and now you actually defend Peter as doing the right thing?

You are importing your own thoughts on the passages. These were mortal men who both caused more problems by their sinful actions.

NO. I wasn't common for Abraham to allow his wife to be sexually abused.

You're importing your own personal failures on the "father of faith". Just what are you trying to justify in your own life by finding it in another?????

I gave a detailed description of what I believe happened. I could care less if you read it or not..... BUT don't say I haven't offered an alternative. YOUR A LIAR.

Abraham lied to to protect those he loved. You, obviously, wouldn't do the same. So much for loving your family.
I am not above ANY potential sinful activity in this world. Neither was Abraham. This is a silly thread. Who cares how Abraham's failure is described. He allowed, on two, premeditated occasions other men to violate his wife.


Liar. No one violated Sarah. Prove it.
Reread what I wrote: "He allowed other men to violate his wife."

He lied and handed her over... God intervened.

Read the text and don't assume more or less than the text.
 
So I have yet to see where rcs2a called Sarah a whore. He did make the accusation against Abraham but never called her a whore.

There are plenty of pimps who sell other people. That does not mean the one sold is always complicit in the deal. Think child sex slavery. The person who sells the child is without a doubt a pimp but the child is not a whore.

All that to say that Sarah, by her words and actions, was innocent in these incidents. Abe on the other hand, not so much.
 
FSSL said:
praise_yeshua said:
FSSL said:
praise_yeshua said:
FSSL said:
praise_yeshua said:
It was a common custom of that time to gift the family of a potential wife. Pharoah was bring nice to the family.

Was it common for God-fearing people to allow their wives to be sexually abused?

No matter how much you don't like the word "pimp," you have not offered any descriptive word for Abraham's actions. <enter the sugar coating>


... and now you actually defend Peter as doing the right thing?

You are importing your own thoughts on the passages. These were mortal men who both caused more problems by their sinful actions.

NO. I wasn't common for Abraham to allow his wife to be sexually abused.

You're importing your own personal failures on the "father of faith". Just what are you trying to justify in your own life by finding it in another?????

I gave a detailed description of what I believe happened. I could care less if you read it or not..... BUT don't say I haven't offered an alternative. YOUR A LIAR.

Abraham lied to to protect those he loved. You, obviously, wouldn't do the same. So much for loving your family.
I am not above ANY potential sinful activity in this world. Neither was Abraham. This is a silly thread. Who cares how Abraham's failure is described. He allowed, on two, premeditated occasions other men to violate his wife.


Liar. No one violated Sarah. Prove it.
Reread what I wrote: "He allowed other men to violate his wife."

He lied and handed her over... God intervened.

Read the text and don't assume more or less than the text.

Read what I said. No one violated Sarah. Don't' assume more than what I wrote.

No one violated Sarah. Prove it.

So.... prove it.

Sarah always remained Abraham's wife. No one else had sex or violated that union.

PROVE YOUR ACCUSATION.
 
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Tim said:
Question. What one is true?

Genesis 12:19 NIV
Why did you say, 'She is my sister,' so that I took her to be my wife? Now then, here is your wife. Take her and go!"

Genesis 12:19 KJV
Why saidst thou, She is my sister? so I might have taken her to me to wife: now therefore behold thy wife, take her, and go thy way

Yes?

Both?

Purple?

I hate multiple choice questions.
 
Tim said:
Question. What one is true?

Genesis 12:19 NIV
Why did you say, 'She is my sister,' so that I took her to be my wife? Now then, here is your wife. Take her and go!"

Genesis 12:19 KJV
Why saidst thou, She is my sister? so I might have taken her to me to wife: now therefore behold thy wife, take her, and go thy way

It doesn't matter. Neither one says what they are trying to imply.

There is no evidence that Pharaoh and Sarah had sex. None.
 
praise_yeshua said:
Tim said:
Question. What one is true?

Genesis 12:19 NIV
Why did you say, 'She is my sister,' so that I took her to be my wife? Now then, here is your wife. Take her and go!"

Genesis 12:19 KJV
Why saidst thou, She is my sister? so I might have taken her to me to wife: now therefore behold thy wife, take her, and go thy way

It doesn't matter. Neither one says what they are trying to imply.

There is no evidence that Pharaoh and Sarah had sex. None.

I haven't seen anyone claim that they did. In fact the point has been made numerous times that God intervened before such a thing could happen.
 
subllibrm said:
praise_yeshua said:
Tim said:
Question. What one is true?

Genesis 12:19 NIV
Why did you say, 'She is my sister,' so that I took her to be my wife? Now then, here is your wife. Take her and go!"

Genesis 12:19 KJV
Why saidst thou, She is my sister? so I might have taken her to me to wife: now therefore behold thy wife, take her, and go thy way

It doesn't matter. Neither one says what they are trying to imply.

There is no evidence that Pharaoh and Sarah had sex. None.

I haven't seen anyone claim that they did. In fact the point has been made numerous times that God intervened before such a thing could happen.

FSSL claims they did. Your sock...rsc2a claims they did.

 
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