Does God take pleasure in the death of the wicked?

[Ransom]

Obviously you lied when you said you read it.

*fart*

 

[christundivided]

Ask and ye shall receive. 

Why would you chide folks for pulling verses out of context and yet do the same?

But from the article...

Prayers, also, are of avail to procure those things which He foreknew that He would grant to those who offered them; and with justice have rewards been appointed for good deeds, and punishments for sins.

I'm tired of this Matthew..... they refuse to even quote what they say is contrary to what I said. Its ridiculous.

 

[biscuit1953]

I agree one hundred percent. However, this isn't necessarily the issue.

Here we have an all powerful God that can do anything He so desires.... actually doing something that doesn't please Himself. The Calvinist view creates a paradox. A paradox in which God actually takes divine action in Eternity Past....to create something that will actually causes Him displeasure.

I would like a Calvinist to explain why God would do this. Explain this Paradox.

It's not a paradox.  It only appears that way to you because you're conflating two completely different things simply because they both include the word "pleasure".

Explain how I'm conflating them... I'll listen... or rather read....

Both deal with God's pleasure. Now tell me how they are different. You've got to do better than your last response. You've got to realize that we are talking about a being WHO creates His own rules. Your view of God's rules... are that God has purposely created some for damnation. A damnation that brings Him no pleasure.

There is really only one answer that removes the paradox.

There are several "paradoxes" in scripture.  John 3:16 says God loves the world while Psalm 5:5 says that God "hates all workers of iniquity.”  God's "hate" is a judicial act on the part of a righteous judge who separates the sinner from Himself.  Romans 9 states that God receives glory in the display of His wrath as well as His mercy.  God does not make those "prepared for destruction" sinful but by their own rejection He leaves them in the sin they have chosen. If God did not "choose" some for salvation then no one would be saved because no one seeks after God on his own.  Many people have died because of a jealous husband or boyfriend and yet jealousy is a good thing when it comes to God. 

Just because you don't understand a paradox doesn't mean anything.

 

[Recovering IFB]

I agree one hundred percent. However, this isn't necessarily the issue.

Here we have an all powerful God that can do anything He so desires.... actually doing something that doesn't please Himself. The Calvinist view creates a paradox. A paradox in which God actually takes divine action in Eternity Past....to create something that will actually causes Him displeasure.

I would like a Calvinist to explain why God would do this. Explain this Paradox.

It's not a paradox.  It only appears that way to you because you're conflating two completely different things simply because they both include the word "pleasure".

Explain how I'm conflating them... I'll listen... or rather read....

Both deal with God's pleasure. Now tell me how they are different. You've got to do better than your last response. You've got to realize that we are talking about a being WHO creates His own rules. Your view of God's rules... are that God has purposely created some for damnation. A damnation that brings Him no pleasure.

There is really only one answer that removes the paradox.

There are several "paradoxes" in scripture.  John 3:16 says God loves the world while Psalm 5:5 says that God "hates all workers of iniquity.”  God's "hate" is a judicial act on the part of a righteous judge who separates the sinner from Himself.  Romans 9 states that God receives glory in the display of His wrath as well as His mercy.  God does not make those "prepared for destruction" sinful but by their own rejection He leaves them in the sin they have chosen. If God did not "choose" some for salvation then no one would be saved because no one seeks after God on his own.  Many people have died because of a jealous husband or boyfriend and yet jealousy is a good thing when it comes to God. 

Just because you don't understand a paradox doesn't mean anything.

God is perfect in all aspects of his being. He loves perfectly, he hates perfectly, he is perfectly wrathful, he is perfect      in showing mercy, all in perfect unison of his being. He is all around perfect. And in our finite minds, we cannot conceive this.