Does man seek after God?

[christundivided]

Act 17:26  And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
Act 17:27  That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:

I imagine "Recovering IFB" thinks God lied in Acts 17:27

 

[Recovering IFB]

Actually Eccles.3:11 kinda explains this. You see, God put that in us, he initiated it! So does Man seek after God? Are there any righteous? Scripture tells us no!

 

[christundivided]

Actually Eccles.3:11 kinda explains this. You see, God put that in us, he initiated it! So does Man seek after God? Are there any righteous? Scripture tells us no!

Kinda? You don't expect me to reply to a "kinda" do you?

Explain how Ecc 3:11 "kinda" deals with it.

"Seeking after God" does not = righteousness.

You're purposely ignore the next verse found in Psalm 14:3

Psa 14:3  They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Do you see it? Do you see that God's desire and plan was that man kind seek Him. At one time, they did. They "become" filthy. They are "gone out of the way".

You have no idea how to properly apply the verses.

 

[The Rogue Tomato]

Romans 3:11 There is none who understands; There is none who seeks after God.

 

[christundivided]

Romans 3:11 There is none who understands; There is none who seeks after God.

Rogue.... I hope you know that Paul is quoting verses found in the OT. You're one that can't understand Paul's argument because you're only seeing it through "Calvin's eyes".

Its amazing to me that of you are so enslaved by the teaching of a man.... that you can't even deal with the simplest things.

The quote continues on Romans 3:12....

Do you know what "become" means? It means something was in a different state of being and that state changed..... Acts 17;26-27 says that God created humanity to seek after HIM. Its clear as the nose on your face. This directly contradicts the teaching of Calvinism. You should believe the Scriptures and abandon Calvinism.

Act 17:26  And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
Act 17:27  That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:

 

[Recovering IFB]

Actually Eccles.3:11 kinda explains this. You see, God put that in us, he initiated it! So does Man seek after God? Are there any righteous? Scripture tells us no!

Kinda? You don't expect me to reply to a "kinda" do you?

Explain how Ecc 3:11 "kinda" deals with it.

"Seeking after God" does not = righteousness.

You're purposely ignore the next verse found in Psalm 14:3

Psa 14:3  They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Do you see it? Do you see that God's desire and plan was that man kind seek Him. At one time, they did. They "become" filthy. They are "gone out of the way".

You have no idea how to properly apply the verses.

I don't know if your being crude or you are being serious, and I don't think I could put it anymore clearer than what has been posted already.
God initiates everything with us, we don't just wake up on our own accord and say " I feel like being Godly". Romans speaks clearly if our depravity, look at the the first three chapters!.
Ecclesiastes speaks if God putting in us, (God doing it because we wouldn't do it on our own) the thought if eternity so that we would think of it, you know the "biggest question" why?.
It's not hard to discern, we're wicked, we all deserve death and hell, God chose/predestinated whom he would save, it's his mercy and grace why he saved us, nothing we did, it's all God

 

[christundivided]

Actually Eccles.3:11 kinda explains this. You see, God put that in us, he initiated it! So does Man seek after God? Are there any righteous? Scripture tells us no!

Kinda? You don't expect me to reply to a "kinda" do you?

Explain how Ecc 3:11 "kinda" deals with it.

"Seeking after God" does not = righteousness.

You're purposely ignore the next verse found in Psalm 14:3

Psa 14:3  They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Do you see it? Do you see that God's desire and plan was that man kind seek Him. At one time, they did. They "become" filthy. They are "gone out of the way".

You have no idea how to properly apply the verses.

I don't know if your being crude or you are being serious, and I don't think I could put it anymore clearer than what has been posted already.
God initiates everything with us, we don't just wake up on our own accord and say " I feel like being Godly". Romans speaks clearly if our depravity, look at the the first three chapters!.
Ecclesiastes speaks if God putting in us, (God doing it because we wouldn't do it on our own) the thought if eternity so that we would think of it, you know the "biggest question" why?.
It's not hard to discern, we're wicked, we all deserve death and hell, God chose/predestinated whom he would save, it's his mercy and grace why he saved us, nothing we did, it's all God

No, I am not going to believe what you say about it. It directly contradicts Acts 17:26,27.... the only answer you have is that Ecc 3:11 "kinda" explains it. Rogue comes in here like a child and bolds the same thing you posted and pretends that's a "defense".

Give me a break... I knew this was a waste of time. Believe what you want.

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=christundivided]No, I am not going to believe what you say about it. It directly contradicts Acts 17:26,27.... the only answer you have is that Ecc 3:11 "kinda" explains it. Rogue comes in here like a child and bolds the same thing you posted and pretends that's a "defense".

Give me a break... I knew this was a waste of time. Believe what you want.
[/quote]

They cited different verses. :|

 

[Recovering IFB]

Actually Eccles.3:11 kinda explains this. You see, God put that in us, he initiated it! So does Man seek after God? Are there any righteous? Scripture tells us no!

Kinda? You don't expect me to reply to a "kinda" do you?

Explain how Ecc 3:11 "kinda" deals with it.

"Seeking after God" does not = righteousness.

You're purposely ignore the next verse found in Psalm 14:3

Psa 14:3  They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Do you see it? Do you see that God's desire and plan was that man kind seek Him. At one time, they did. They "become" filthy. They are "gone out of the way".

You have no idea how to properly apply the verses.

I don't know if your being crude or you are being serious, and I don't think I could put it anymore clearer than what has been posted already.
God initiates everything with us, we don't just wake up on our own accord and say " I feel like being Godly". Romans speaks clearly if our depravity, look at the the first three chapters!.
Ecclesiastes speaks if God putting in us, (God doing it because we wouldn't do it on our own) the thought if eternity so that we would think of it, you know the "biggest question" why?.
It's not hard to discern, we're wicked, we all deserve death and hell, God chose/predestinated whom he would save, it's his mercy and grace why he saved us, nothing we did, it's all God

No, I am not going to believe what you say about it. It directly contradicts Acts 17:26,27.... the only answer you have is that Ecc 3:11 "kinda" explains it. Rogue comes in here like a child and bolds the same thing you posted and pretends that's a "defense".

Give me a break... I knew this was a waste of time. Believe what you want.

"Kinda", when I used it, was being sarcastic. I thought you would have picked up on this.
You know something? You were kinda funny at one time, but recently you kinda have been açting like a woman bitching and moaning about everything and acting like an ass, if you don't agree or don't like something, you totally flip out! Grow up!

 

[christundivided]

[quote author=christundivided]No, I am not going to believe what you say about it. It directly contradicts Acts 17:26,27.... the only answer you have is that Ecc 3:11 "kinda" explains it. Rogue comes in here like a child and bolds the same thing you posted and pretends that's a "defense".

Give me a break... I knew this was a waste of time. Believe what you want.

They cited different verses. :|
[/quote]

The argument started in another thread. I moved it here. Keep up....or better yet. I'm through with you.

 

[The Rogue Tomato]

Act 17:26  And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
Act 17:27  That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:

So, he made man that he should seek after him. 

Okay, I guess the verse that says God wanted us to do X negates the verse that plainly says NOBODY does X. 

 

[christundivided]

Actually Eccles.3:11 kinda explains this. You see, God put that in us, he initiated it! So does Man seek after God? Are there any righteous? Scripture tells us no!

Kinda? You don't expect me to reply to a "kinda" do you?

Explain how Ecc 3:11 "kinda" deals with it.

"Seeking after God" does not = righteousness.

You're purposely ignore the next verse found in Psalm 14:3

Psa 14:3  They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Do you see it? Do you see that God's desire and plan was that man kind seek Him. At one time, they did. They "become" filthy. They are "gone out of the way".

You have no idea how to properly apply the verses.

I don't know if your being crude or you are being serious, and I don't think I could put it anymore clearer than what has been posted already.
God initiates everything with us, we don't just wake up on our own accord and say " I feel like being Godly". Romans speaks clearly if our depravity, look at the the first three chapters!.
Ecclesiastes speaks if God putting in us, (God doing it because we wouldn't do it on our own) the thought if eternity so that we would think of it, you know the "biggest question" why?.
It's not hard to discern, we're wicked, we all deserve death and hell, God chose/predestinated whom he would save, it's his mercy and grace why he saved us, nothing we did, it's all God

No, I am not going to believe what you say about it. It directly contradicts Acts 17:26,27.... the only answer you have is that Ecc 3:11 "kinda" explains it. Rogue comes in here like a child and bolds the same thing you posted and pretends that's a "defense".

Give me a break... I knew this was a waste of time. Believe what you want.

"Kinda", when I used it, was being sarcastic. I thought you would have picked up on this.
You know something? You were kinda funny at one time, but recently you kinda have been açting like a woman bitching and moaning about everything and acting like an ass, if you don't agree or don't like something, you totally flip out! Grow up!

Here. I'll get you half way there. I'll post the verse for you. Now tie the two together.

Ecc 3:11  He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.

 

[christundivided]

Act 17:26  And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
Act 17:27  That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:

So, he made man that he should seek after him. 

Okay, I guess the verse that says God wanted us to do X negates the verse that plainly says NOBODY does X.

No. It says nothing about "wanted". Where do you see "wanted"?

Either way.... You haven't thought this through.

You've created a situation in which God wanted something and doesn't get it. It says nothing exclusively of the elect. Its talking of mankind.

 

[rsc2a]

[quote author=christundivided]No, I am not going to believe what you say about it. It directly contradicts Acts 17:26,27.... the only answer you have is that Ecc 3:11 "kinda" explains it. Rogue comes in here like a child and bolds the same thing you posted and pretends that's a "defense".

Give me a break... I knew this was a waste of time. Believe what you want.

They cited different verses. :|

The argument started in another thread. I moved it here. Keep up....or better yet. I'm through with you.[/quote]

Nope. R_IFB cited Ecc. 3:11. You just accused mater of nothing more than bolding the same verse. Mater cited Rom 3:11 and bolded it. Same address, different books.

Even in this, you refuse to admit you were wrong. Are you really so arrogant that you will not even acknowledge when you are so clearly in the wrong?

 

[The Rogue Tomato]

 

[bruinboy]

Absolutely not. Pretty easy.

 

[Recovering IFB]

You've created a situation in which God wanted something and doesn't get it. It says nothing exclusively of the elect. Its talking of mankind.

You have created a situation where you put yourself in the center of youer own conversion, like it is based on your decision. Where it is all God all the time. You are not the star of this show, your not even a co-star. Your an extra on the set of a movie that stars God.
And after all of this, you still can't get over the big question of your own depravity. Can you explain about how you sought God when Scripture purely states that no one seeks after him?

 

[The Rogue Tomato]

Can you explain about how you sought God when Scripture purely states that no one seeks after him?

 

[Recovering IFB]

John 1:12 But to all who did receive Him,
He gave them the right to be children of God,
to those who believe in His name,
13 who were born,
not of blood,
or of the will of the flesh,
or of the will of man,
but of God.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Act 17:26  And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
Act 17:27  That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:

So, he made man that he should seek after him. 

Okay, I guess the verse that says God wanted us to do X negates the verse that plainly says NOBODY does X.

I Chronicles 16:11 "Seek the Lord and his strength, seek his face continually. "
Psalm 105:4 "Seek the Lord, and his strength: seek his face evermore. "
Psalm 119:2 "Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart. "
Isaiah 55:6 "Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: "
2 Chronicles 15:12 "And they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord God of their fathers with all their heart and with all their soul; "
Psalm 14:2 "The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. "
Proverbs 8:17 "I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me. "
Jeremiah 29:13 "And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart. "
Matthew 6:33 "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. "

Maybe Romans 3:11 doesn't mean what you think it means.