Duggar Girls Gone Wild

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Since becoming adults, the Duggar siblings have started to pick which of their parents' rules to keep following and which to toss out.​

This just in: Adults make their own decisions.
 
Jinger Duggar's book "Becoming Free Indeed" is a good read. She details how she overcame Gothard's teachings without losing her faith. I think she and her husband are on staff at MacArthur's church now.
 
I have never watched the Duggar reality show, but the Internet coverage of the Duggars over the years seems to give the impression that they are IFB and/or fundamentalists, and therefore, if you join such a church, you will be expected to obey the same kooky, extreme standards and dress codes as the Duggars. I don't know if any of the Duggars were or are IFB - it is my understanding that they were members of Cross Church, pastored by SBC president Ronnie Floyd, which would make the Duggars SBC, not IFB. But of course I don't expect the news media or general public to understand such fine distinctions between SBC and IFB people - they are all fundies of some sort.

Anyway, the point is, the Duggars may have given the impression that all fundamentalists are required to follow these extreme non-scriptural rules as taught by Bill Gothard, and now they are publicly rebelling against and repudiating those rules themselves, with even the matriarch Michelle Duggar now wearing pants. This should be a wake-up call for those who want to go back to the restrictive standards and "control freak" religious culture of the mid-20th Century. Those rules and dress codes don't work - they didn't work for Josh Duggar who became a sex pervert. And people today, even conservative Christians, will not accept those rules - there is currently a massive revolt going on among the faculty and students at Bob Jones University, against their own board members who want to reinstate the bans on women wearing slacks and shorts.

Personally, I still identify as a fundamentalist, but I don't see much potential for growth in our movement, unless we can distance ourselves from the abusive Gothard "chain of command" teachings, and from the notion that the true essence of Christianity consists of heavy-handed enforcement of dress codes, hair styles, courtship, and the bans on dating, mixed bathing, music, etc. etc. I do not advocate "going wild," but as fundamentalists, we are going to have to either allow young people a happy medium of Christian liberty, like the Duggar girls are seeking to find, or else die out as a movement that has become completely incomprehensible and irrelevant to modern society.
 
illinoisguy said:
I have never watched the Duggar reality show, but the Internet coverage of the Duggars over the years seems to give the impression that they are IFB and/or fundamentalists, and therefore, if you join such a church, you will be expected to obey the same kooky, extreme standards and dress codes as the Duggars. I don't know if any of the Duggars were or are IFB - it is my understanding that they were members of Cross Church, pastored by SBC president Ronnie Floyd, which would make the Duggars SBC, not IFB. But of course I don't expect the news media or general public to understand such fine distinctions between SBC and IFB people - they are all fundies of some sort.

Anyway, the point is, the Duggars may have given the impression that all fundamentalists are required to follow these extreme non-scriptural rules as taught by Bill Gothard, and now they are publicly rebelling against and repudiating those rules themselves, with even the matriarch Michelle Duggar now wearing pants. This should be a wake-up call for those who want to go back to the restrictive standards and "control freak" religious culture of the mid-20th Century. Those rules and dress codes don't work - they didn't work for Josh Duggar who became a sex pervert. And people today, even conservative Christians, will not accept those rules - there is currently a massive revolt going on among the faculty and students at Bob Jones University, against their own board members who want to reinstate the bans on women wearing slacks and shorts.

Personally, I still identify as a fundamentalist, but I don't see much potential for growth in our movement, unless we can distance ourselves from the abusive Gothard "chain of command" teachings, and from the notion that the true essence of Christianity consists of heavy-handed enforcement of dress codes, hair styles, courtship, and the bans on dating, mixed bathing, music, etc. etc. I do not advocate "going wild," but as fundamentalists, we are going to have to either allow young people a happy medium of Christian liberty, like the Duggar girls are seeking to find, or else die out as a movement that has become completely incomprehensible and irrelevant to modern society.
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Some of Jim’s adult children do attend SBC churches, but I don’t think Jim Duggar would be caught dead in a Southern Baptist Church (unless it consisted of attending a funeral or wedding). He’s definitely been 100% IFB for years. He’s was pretty strong in the Bill Gothard movement, not sure of his affiliation with that group these days. From what I can find, his family attends a small IFB church in the Fayetteville area called Lighthouse Baptist Church. https://fundamentalists.fandom.com/wiki/Lighthouse_Baptist_Church
 
Thanks for setting the record straight, Huk, regarding Jim Bob's current affiliations. Looks like IFBs get to take the credit for the Duggars after all (or take the blame, depending on one's point of view).

I may have been misled about the Duggar church affiliation, since one of their weddings took place at Ronnie Floyd's Cross Church: "Since the Duggar/Dillard wedding happened this past June, People was able to get some details about the service. The wedding took place at Cross Church in Springdale Ark., a Baptist church that specializes in conversion and missionary work, and considers excellence one of their core values." (People Magazine)

This article clarifies that the Duggars were inaccurately reported as being members of Cross Church, but that report was incorrect.

www.christianpost.com

Pastor Ronnie Floyd Speaks Out on Josh Duggar Molestation Scandal, Says God Can Forgive Anything

Pastor Ronnie Floyd, senior pastor of Cross Church in Rogers, Arkansas, addressed the recent reports that accuse Josh Duggar, now 27, of molesting five young women when he was 14
www.christianpost.com www.christianpost.com

According to this article, some of the Duggars were members of Cross Church at some point in time: "Prior to this scandal, Ronnie Floyd was pastor to some of the Duggar family at Cross Church in Springdale and Rogers, Ark., which also put him in the spotlight as media descended on the northwest Arkansas community in 2015. At the time, Floyd also served as president of the SBC, an elected position, not a staff position. And Cross Church was the largest church in the state of Arkansas. At the time the abuse story broke, the extended Duggar family reportedly were not active members of the church, although daughter Jill Duggar Dillard and her husband, Derick, were active members and got married there in June 2014. By other media accounts, various members of the family have had connections to the church across time. Michelle and Jim Bob were married at the church before it was renamed Cross Church from its origins as First Baptist Church of Springdale, Ark."

baptistnews.com

Who are the key players behind the SBC Executive Committee’s response to a sexual abuse investigation? – Baptist News Global

Who really is pulling the strings to cause Executive Committee trustees to defy the will of convention messengers and upend Southern Baptist polity?
baptistnews.com baptistnews.com

This article confirms that Jim Bob Duggar was a member of Lighthouse Baptist Church (IFB), Paul Caldwell, pastor, but it appears that he may have left the church, and taken most of the members with him: “The source said that the dispute allegedly started due to the church holding services despite a mandate by the governor in AR against large gatherings. The source believes that Jim Bob wanted Paul Caldwell to stop holding services, not because of Covid, but because he didn’t want the family to look like they were defying the mandate while Josh was under investigation. . . . There were other issues that came up. But I’ll share that later. 85% of the church left with the Duggars. Which I told you last spring. The split destroyed Paul Caldwell. Apparently, the Duggars allegedly turned people against Paul Caldwell which ruined his reputation. This isn’t new for the Duggars, the source explained to Katie. Apparently, the Duggars run into conflict and end up leaving churches every few years."

tvshowsace.com

Jim Bob Duggar Takes Majority Of Paul Caldwell's Church In Latest Selfish Act

Former TLC star Jim Bob Duggar has taken his son Joe's father-in-law Paul Caldwell's church after a selfish act.
tvshowsace.com tvshowsace.com

It appears that Jinger Duggar and family attend John MacArthur's Grace Community Church (not Baptist, but they are Baptistic).
 
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