Easter, Christian or Pagan?

Rabbits and Eggs in the Catholic Encyclopedia.

"PECULIAR CUSTOMS OF EASTER TIME
1. Risus Paschalis
This strange custom originated in Bavaria in the fifteenth century. The priest inserted in his sermon funny stories which would cause his hearers to laugh ( Ostermärlein ), e.g. a description of how the devil tries to keep the doors of hell locked against the descending Christ. Then the speaker would draw the moral from the story. This Easter laughter, giving rise to grave abuses of the word of God, was prohibited by Clement X (1670-1676) and in the eighteenth century by Maximilian III and the bishops of Bavaria (Wagner, De Risu Paschali, Königsberg, 1705; Linsemeier, Predigt in Deutschland, Munich, 1886).

2. Easter Eggs
Because the use of eggs was forbidden during Lent, they were brought to the table on Easter Day, coloured red to symbolize the Easter joy. This custom is found not only in the Latin but also in the Oriental Churches. The symbolic meaning of a new creation of mankind by Jesus risen from the dead was probably an invention of later times. The custom may have its origin in paganism, for a great many pagan customs, celebrating the return of spring, gravitated to Easter. The egg is the emblem of the germinating life of early spring. Easter eggs, the children are told, come from Rome with the bells which on Thursday go to Rome and return Saturday morning. The sponsors in some countries give Easter eggs to their god-children. Coloured eggs are used by children at Easter in a sort of game which consists in testing the strength of the shells (Kraus, Real-Encyklop die, s. v. Ei). Both coloured and uncoloured eggs are used in some parts of the United States for this game, known as "egg-picking". Another practice is the "egg-rolling" by children on Easter Monday on the lawn of the White House in Washington.

3. The Easter Rabbit
The Easter Rabbit lays the eggs, for which reason they are hidden in a nest or in the garden. The rabbit is a pagan symbol and has always been an emblem of fertility (Simrock, Mythologie, 551).

4. Handball
In France handball playing was one of the Easter amusements, found also in Germany (Simrock, op. cit., 575). The ball may represent the sun, which is believed to take three leaps in rising on Easter morning. Bishops, priests, and monks, after the strict discipline of Lent, used to play ball during Easter week (Beleth, Expl. Div. off., 120). This was called libertas Decembrica , because formerly in December, the masters used to play ball with their servants, maids, and shepherds. The ball game was connected with a dance, in which even bishops and abbots took part. At Auxerre, Besançon, etc. the dance was performed in church to the strains of the "Victimae paschali". In England, also, the game of ball was a favourite Easter sport in which the municipal corporation engaged with due parade and dignity. And at Bury St. Edmunds, within recent years, the game was kept up with great spirit by twelve old women. After the game and the dance a banquet was given, during which a homily on the feast was read. All these customs disappeared for obvious reasons (Kirchenlex., IV, 1414).

5. Men and women
On Easter Monday the women had a right to strike their husbands, on Tuesday the men struck their wives, as in December the servants scolded their masters. Husbands and wives did this "ut ostendant sese mutuo debere corrigere, ne illo tempore alter ab altero thori debitum exigat" (Beleth, I, c. cxx; Durandus, I, c. vi, 86). In the northern parts of England the men parade the streets on Easter Sunday and claim the privilege of lifting every woman three times from the ground, receiving in payment a kiss or a silver sixpence. The same is done by the women to the men on the next day. In the Neumark (Germany) on Easter Day the men servants whip the maid servants with switches; on Monday the maids whip the men. They secure their release with Easter eggs. These customs are probably of pre-Christian origin (Reinsberg-Düringsfeld, Das festliche Jahr, 118).

6. The Easter Fire
The Easter Fire is lit on the top of mountains (Easter mountain, Osterberg ) and must be kindled from new fire, drawn from wood by friction ( nodfyr ); this is a custom of pagan origin in vogue all over Europe, signifying the victory of spring over winter. The bishops issued severe edicts against the sacrilegious Easter fires (Conc. Germanicum, a. 742, c.v.; Council of Lestines, a. 743, n. 15), but did not succeed in abolishing them everywhere. The Church adopted the observance into the Easter ceremonies, referring it to the fiery column in the desert and to the Resurrection of Christ ; the new fire on Holy Saturday is drawn from flint, symbolizing the Resurrection of the Light of the World from the tomb closed by a stone (Missale Rom.). In some places a figure was thrown into the Easter fire, symbolizing winter, but to the Christians on the Rhine, in Tyrol and Bohemia, Judas the traitor (Reinsberg-Düringfeld, Das festliche Jahr, 112 sq.).

7. Processions and awakenings
At Puy in France, from time immemorial to the tenth century, it was customary, when at the first psalm of Matins a canon was absent from the choir, for some of the canons and vicars, taking with them the processional cross and the holy water, to go to the house of the absentee, sing the "Haec Dies", sprinkle him with water, if he was still in bed, and lead him to the church. In punishment he had to give a breakfast to his conductors. A similar custom is found in the fifteenth century at Nantes and Angers, where it was prohibited by the diocesan synods in 1431 and 1448. In some parts of Germany parents and children try to surprise each other in bed on Easter morning to apply the health-giving switches (Freyde, Ostern in deutscher Sage, Sitte und Dichtung, 1893).

8. Blessing of food
In both the Oriental and Latin Churches, it is customary to have those victuals which were prohibited during Lent blessed by the priests before eating them on Easter Day, especially meat, eggs, butter, and cheese (Ritualbucher, Paderborn, 1904; Maximilianus, Liturg. or., 117). Those who ate before the food was blessed, according to popular belief, were punished by God, sometimes instantaneously ( Migne, Liturgie, s.v. P&aicrc;ques).

9. House blessings
On the eve of Easter the homes are blessed (Rit. Rom., tit. 8, c. iv) in memory of the passing of the angel in Egypt and the signing of the door-posts with the blood of the paschal lamb. The parish priest visits the houses of his parish ; the papal apartments are also blessed on this day. The room, however, in which the pope is found by the visiting cardinal is blessed by the pontiff himself (Moroni, Dizionariq, s.v. Pasqua).

10. Sports and celebrations
The Greeks and Russians after their long, severe Lent make Easter a day of popular sports. At Constantinople the cemetery of Pera is the noisy rendezvous of the Greeks; there are music, dances, and all the pleasures of an Oriental popular resort; the same custom prevails in the cities of Russia. In Russia anyone can enter the belfries on Easter and ring the bells, a privilege of which many persons avail themselves."
 
Hi,

admin said:
There is nothing like using primary sources to defeat an untested article found on the internet.

And was there anything in the TDNT or the Catholic Encyclopedia that refuted one word I wrote or referenced? I saw a reference to 15th century Bavaria (not a primary source reference) and didn't see any relevance.

If there was some sort of argument in those posts, why don't you try to express it in summary form, and explain its relevance.

Steven Avery
 
Hi,

bgwilkinson said:
Here is what F. F. Bruce says.
EASTER, a word used in the Germanic languages to denote the festival of the vernal equinox, and subsequently, with the coming of Christianity, to denote the anniversary of the resurrection of Christ (which in Gk. and Romance tongues is denoted by pascha, ‘Passover’, and its derivatives).

This is supposed to be a primary source?

Please supply the actual primary source references that say that Easter was a word used in the early centuries in the Germanic languages for the vernal equinox.  Since Christianity came to those regions within the first centuries after Christ, to be accurate, the reference should be about 200 AD.  However, I would also be interested in 1000 AD.

If you don't have one, please simply acknowledge that there is no support available for the F. F. Bruce claim. Apparently Bruce wrote this in 1962 in the New Bible Dictionary.

Steven
 
Steven Avery said:
Hi cud,

You know full well I stopped bothering with your posts long ago. You have again already demonstrated the reason a couple of more times.

Whine to the mod.

Steven

It wasn't a call to force you out of anything....... and I would never call in a mod to ban anyone. I was just sharing my feelings concerning you. You're a hopeless heretic that denies the Trinity and participates in a bible bashing CULT that demands everyone follow every word of a particularly flawed english translation.

You're a TURD. Plan and simple. A stinky.... maggot filled TURD. You belong in a SEWER. You have endlessly refused to deal honestly with much of anything.
 
Thanks for showing your fallen nature.

Makes it easier for readers to see why your attempts to ask questions are ignored.
 
Steven Avery said:
Thanks for showing your fallen nature.

Makes it easier for readers to see why your attempts to ask questions are ignored.

It would seem this philosophy goes against...

2 Timothy 2:24-26  And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
 
Mathew Ward said:
Steven Avery said:
Thanks for showing your fallen nature.

Makes it easier for readers to see why your attempts to ask questions are ignored.

It would seem this philosophy goes against...

2 Timothy 2:24-26  And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

There's little goody two shoes Matthew....

I'm surprised that you've taken to agree with a known heretic...... in that.... contrary to the teaching to the Gospel. Its interesting how you always seem to want to bash someone that calls it like it is.

May I remind you that 2 Timothy 2:24-26 isn't an island unto itself. It is not the ONLY words given to instruct those in the faith. Paul wasn't talking about dealing with someone that has abandoned the faith and refused to make things right with God. Paul was talking about how to deal with those that are open to instruction. Open to recognizing the truth.

This same man also said to....

Gal 5:12  I would they were even cut off which trouble you.
2Ti 4:14  Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:
Tit 1:11  Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.
Act_23:3  Then said Paul unto him, God shall smite thee, thou whited wall: for sittest thou to judge me after the law, and commandest me to be smitten contrary to the law?
1Co_15:36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

Not the mention the fact that Jesus often used the word "fool" and "hypocrite".

So... Matthew (Mr. Goody Two Shoes".) get your facts straight.










 
Steven Avery said:
Thanks for showing your fallen nature.

Makes it easier for readers to see why your attempts to ask questions are ignored.

Its ignored because you can't answer them. You have no answer. The only correct answer..... proves you have made a faulty application of Easter. Thus, you have disparaged your own believed "King Jimmy".

My view of you being Turd is accurate.

Do you mind sharing with us..... just who finds any value in what you have to say? Your own KJV comrades have abandoned you. "Kinney" is about the only person left that values anything you have to say..... and I'm rather certain he only does it because you're become his best/only salesman.
 
Steven Avery said:
Thanks for showing your fallen nature.

Fallen nature...... That was so nice and respectful of you. It certain doesn't fit your application of the "golden rule". Seems like you enjoy "revenge". Your own actions don't meet the same requirements you demand of me. They call this "hypocrisy". Look that word up in your 1828 Webster Dictionary....  :eek:

 
christundivided said:
Mathew Ward said:
Steven Avery said:
Thanks for showing your fallen nature.

Makes it easier for readers to see why your attempts to ask questions are ignored.

It would seem this philosophy goes against...

2 Timothy 2:24-26  And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

There's little goody two shoes Matthew....

I'm surprised that you've taken to agree with a known heretic...... in that.... contrary to the teaching to the Gospel. Its interesting how you always seem to want to bash someone that calls it like it is.

May I remind you that 2 Timothy 2:24-26 isn't an island unto itself. It is not the ONLY words given to instruct those in the faith. Paul wasn't talking about dealing with someone that has abandoned the faith and refused to make things right with God. Paul was talking about how to deal with those that are open to instruction. Open to recognizing the truth.

This same man also said to....

Gal 5:12  I would they were even cut off which trouble you.
2Ti 4:14  Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:
Tit 1:11  Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.
Act_23:3  Then said Paul unto him, God shall smite thee, thou whited wall: for sittest thou to judge me after the law, and commandest me to be smitten contrary to the law?
1Co_15:36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

Not the mention the fact that Jesus often used the word "fool" and "hypocrite".

So... Matthew (Mr. Goody Two Shoes".) get your facts straight.

Maybe before jumping to conclusions you might want to inquire as why I posted the verses.

The verses are posted against Avery's philosophy of not engaging. If he truly believes that he is the superior Christian to you, then he should engage your questions and answer them.
 
Mathew Ward said:
christundivided said:
Mathew Ward said:
Steven Avery said:
Thanks for showing your fallen nature.

Makes it easier for readers to see why your attempts to ask questions are ignored.

It would seem this philosophy goes against...

2 Timothy 2:24-26  And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

There's little goody two shoes Matthew....

I'm surprised that you've taken to agree with a known heretic...... in that.... contrary to the teaching to the Gospel. Its interesting how you always seem to want to bash someone that calls it like it is.

May I remind you that 2 Timothy 2:24-26 isn't an island unto itself. It is not the ONLY words given to instruct those in the faith. Paul wasn't talking about dealing with someone that has abandoned the faith and refused to make things right with God. Paul was talking about how to deal with those that are open to instruction. Open to recognizing the truth.

This same man also said to....

Gal 5:12  I would they were even cut off which trouble you.
2Ti 4:14  Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:
Tit 1:11  Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.
Act_23:3  Then said Paul unto him, God shall smite thee, thou whited wall: for sittest thou to judge me after the law, and commandest me to be smitten contrary to the law?
1Co_15:36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

Not the mention the fact that Jesus often used the word "fool" and "hypocrite".

So... Matthew (Mr. Goody Two Shoes".) get your facts straight.

Maybe before jumping to conclusions you might want to inquire as why I posted the verses.

The verses are posted against Avery's philosophy of not engaging. If he truly believes that he is the superior Christian to you, then he should engage your questions and answer them.

I apologize that I didn't recognize your intent. Sorry.
 
Although if you felt like someone was calling you out by simply posting verses about being peaceable, kind, meek, and gentle towards all men...
 
christundivided said:
Mathew Ward said:
christundivided said:
Mathew Ward said:
Steven Avery said:
Thanks for showing your fallen nature.

Makes it easier for readers to see why your attempts to ask questions are ignored.

It would seem this philosophy goes against...

2 Timothy 2:24-26  And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

There's little goody two shoes Matthew....

I'm surprised that you've taken to agree with a known heretic...... in that.... contrary to the teaching to the Gospel. Its interesting how you always seem to want to bash someone that calls it like it is.

May I remind you that 2 Timothy 2:24-26 isn't an island unto itself. It is not the ONLY words given to instruct those in the faith. Paul wasn't talking about dealing with someone that has abandoned the faith and refused to make things right with God. Paul was talking about how to deal with those that are open to instruction. Open to recognizing the truth.

This same man also said to....

Gal 5:12  I would they were even cut off which trouble you.
2Ti 4:14  Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:
Tit 1:11  Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.
Act_23:3  Then said Paul unto him, God shall smite thee, thou whited wall: for sittest thou to judge me after the law, and commandest me to be smitten contrary to the law?
1Co_15:36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

Not the mention the fact that Jesus often used the word "fool" and "hypocrite".

So... Matthew (Mr. Goody Two Shoes".) get your facts straight.

Maybe before jumping to conclusions you might want to inquire as why I posted the verses.

The verses are posted against Avery's philosophy of not engaging. If he truly believes that he is the superior Christian to you, then he should engage your questions and answer them.

I apologize that I didn't recognize your intent. Sorry.

No problem bro, I think more times than not I make the jump about others.
 
The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges has this to say about the translation using Easter."

intending after Easter (the Passover)] The rendering “Easter” is an attempt to give by an English word the notion of the whole feast. That this meaning and not the single day of the Paschal feast is intended by the Greek seems clear from the elaborate preparation made, as for a longer imprisonment than was the rule among the Jews. Peter was arrested at the commencement of the Passover feast (14th of Nisan), and the king’s intention was to proceed to sentence and punish him when the feast was at an end on the 21st of Nisan.
 
Matthew Henry says,

"He would do this after Easter, meta to pascha - after the passover, certainly so it ought to be read, for it is the same word that is always so rendered; and to insinuate the introducing of a gospel-feast, instead of the passover, when we have nothing in the New Testament of such a thing, is to mingle Judaism with our Christianity. Herod would not condemn him till the passover was over, some think, for fear lest he should have such an interest among the people that they should demand the release of him, according to the custom of the feast: or, after the hurry of the feast was over, and the town was empty, he would entertain them with Peter's public trial and execution. Thus was the plot laid, and both Herod and the people long to have the feast over, that they may gratify themselves with this barbarous entertainment."
 
JFB says,

"intending after Easter — rather, “after the Passover”; that is, after the whole festival was over. (The word in our King James Version is an ecclesiastical term of later date, and ought not to have been employed here).
to bring him forth to the people — for execution; for during “the days of unleavened bread,” or the currency of any religious festival, the Jews had a prejudice against trying or putting anyone to death."
 
The Pulpit Commintary says,

"The Passover. This is a decided improve-merit, as the use of the word "Easter" implies that the Christian feast is here meant. But perhaps" Feast of the Passover" would have been better, as showing that the whole seven days are intended. This is, perhaps, the meaning of τὸ πάσχα in Joh_18:28, and certainly is its meaning here. We have another characteristic trait of the religion of Agrippa, and of his sympathy with the feelings of the Jews about the Law, that he would not allow a trial on a capital charge, or an execution, to take place during the Feast of Unleavened Bread (comp. Joh_18:8). To bring him forth to the people. Still the same desire uppermost, to propitiate the people by gifts or shows, or by blood; ἀναγαγεῖν means exactly "to bring up" (Act_9:39; Rom_10:7, etc.), either on to a stage or on some high ground, where all the people could see him condemned, which would be as good to them as an auto da fι to a Spanish mob, or a gladiatorial slaughter to a Roman audience."
 
Robertson Says,

"After the passover (meta to pascha). The passover feast of eight days. “The stricter Jews regarded it as a profanation to put a person to death during a religious festival” (Hackett). So Agrippa is more scrupulous than the Sanhedrin was about Jesus."
 
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