Eric Capaci

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I am interested to know what other FBers think of Eric Capaci and his College and Church. I have many personal ties to that place as a former Champion Student. Please feel free to be blunt

-Peace
 
I can't speak for anybody else but it seems that you have the edge here.

Do you have an opinion you are wanting to share or are you just looking for dirt?

 
He did not impress me when he got involved with Preston Bunnell.

I am posting from my phone so it is hard to remember exact quotes but it looks to me like he is headed away from the crowd he once was a part of. There is a mention of contemporary services, his staff are not recognized as being graduates of either GSBC or WCBC or working at either NVBC or LBC.

His missionary Chantha Chhim is very contemporary. I am aware many here have no problem with that, the post is more meant to point out the change.

I have never been a fan of his shallow soul winning techniques either.

Just the opinions of an ItinerantPreacher.
 
He is friends with The Real Novice, pastor marty, dr. hambone, etc.  That is all you really need to know.
 
ItinerantPreacher said:
it looks to me like he is headed away from the crowd he once was a part of.
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This is the general opinion.

A good thing in my opinion.
 
Darkwing Duck said:
ItinerantPreacher said:
it looks to me like he is headed away from the crowd he once was a part of.
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This is the general opinion.

A good thing in my opinion.
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I can see why some here would think that. My opinion, be careful. Capaci looks very much like a pragmatist to me.
 
He made a significant shift in philosphies in 2009. I was a junior in the College. He has made no doctrinal changes away from his fundalmentalists roots.

I attended a service a few months after a 3 year absense and was shocked at how different the Spirit was in the church. Seemed very shallow.. But no doctrinal changes. Only music, worship times and overall flow of service were changed.
 
DeadEYE said:
I am interested to know what other FBers think of Eric Capaci and his College and Church. I have many personal ties to that place as a former Champion Student. Please feel free to be blunt

-Peace
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Never heard of him.
 
Change, change, change.  He has gone from a traditional IFB church and college to a more contemporary position - praise and worship songs and team, small groups instead of some traditional services, change in dress standards (pants on women are ok), a dropping of many rules at the college, positive preaching, etc.  If you attended a service at Gospel Light 5 years ago and you attend one today, you would not know you were in the same church.
 
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Change, change, change.  He has gone from a traditional IFB church and college to a more contemporary position - praise and worship songs and team, small groups instead of some traditional services, change in dress standards (pants on women are ok), a dropping of many rules at the college, positive preaching, etc.  If you attended a service at Gospel Light 5 years ago and you attend one today, you would not know you were in the same church.
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I wonder if he is reaping the results that he envisioned?
 
16KJV11 said:
RAIDER said:
Change, change, change.  He has gone from a traditional IFB church and college to a more contemporary position - praise and worship songs and team, small groups instead of some traditional services, change in dress standards (pants on women are ok), a dropping of many rules at the college, positive preaching, etc.  If you attended a service at Gospel Light 5 years ago and you attend one today, you would not know you were in the same church.
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I wonder if he is reaping the results that he envisioned?
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Guys like Capaci went away from the "Hyles" model, and went to the "Driscoll" model. Music and standards changed, Bible version is next. While I do not know the old doctrinal statement, I doubt it was missing a statement about the KJV, standard practice among his old crowd.  The new one has no such statement. This is often a precursor to the change itself.
 
RAIDER said:
Change, change, change.  He has gone from a traditional IFB church and college to a more contemporary position - praise and worship songs and team, small groups instead of some traditional services, change in dress standards (pants on women are ok), a dropping of many rules at the college, positive preaching, etc.  If you attended a service at Gospel Light 5 years ago and you attend one today, you would not know you were in the same church.
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What do you mean by 'positive preaching', exactly?
 
The lamenting that is here because an autonomous church & Pastor are not towing the Hyles/old paths line is ironic...I guess independent doesn't really mean independent.
 
T-Bone said:
The lamenting that is here because an autonomous church & Pastor are not towing the Hyles/old paths line is ironic...I guess independent doesn't really mean independent.
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Actually, he's just switched one one 'line' for another.
Doesn't surprise me, saw it coming a long time ago.
Couldn't care less either, just curious if he is seeing results he wants to see.
Usually when pastors switch like this, it's b/c they think that their switching will cause them to be more relevant and attractive to the current generation of young people.
There is an SBC near me that has gone contemporary a long time ago, along with the small group thing, it hasn't really helped them to grow.
 
16KJV11 said:
T-Bone said:
The lamenting that is here because an autonomous church & Pastor are not towing the Hyles/old paths line is ironic...I guess independent doesn't really mean independent.
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Actually, he's just switched one one 'line' for another.
Doesn't surprise me, saw it coming a long time ago.
Couldn't care less either, just curious if he is seeing results he wants to see.
Usually when pastors switch like this, it's b/c they think that their switching will cause them to be more relevant and attractive to the current generation of young people.
There is an SBC near me that has gone contemporary a long time ago, along with the small group thing, it hasn't really helped them to grow.
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Oh I get you, and don't disagree with you at all..the ironic part to me is the stanch independents lamenting someone leaving the Hyle's model or camp...I guess independent doesn't mean what it use to.
 
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The lamenting that is here because an autonomous church & Pastor are not towing the Hyles/old paths line is ironic...I guess independent doesn't really mean independent.
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No, if I left that impression it was not what I meant, at least as far as the Hyles model goes. I have never been a fan of that model. What I meant is that Capaci is a pragmatist. When the Hyles model looked successful, he used it, when it didn't, he switched. For a time I gave him the benefit of the doubt, that he was not necessarily like that, I lament that I was proven wrong, and what could have been a good church as I see good churches is no longer. He is free to do so, just as that church in California from another thread is free to do so, but I lament that they made the choices they did. I assume you do as well, even though you consider autonomy an important part of a churches make up.
 
ItinerantPreacher said:
T-Bone said:
The lamenting that is here because an autonomous church & Pastor are not towing the Hyles/old paths line is ironic...I guess independent doesn't really mean independent.
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No, if I left that impression it was not what I meant, at least as far as the Hyles model goes. I have never been a fan of that model. What I meant is that Capaci is a pragmatist. When the Hyles model looked successful, he used it, when it didn't, he switched. For a time I gave him the benefit of the doubt, that he was not necessarily like that, I lament that I was proveen wrong, and what could have been a good church as I see good churches is no longer. He is free to do so, just as that church in California from another thread is free to do so, but I lament that they made the choices they did. I assume you do as well, even though you consider autonomy an important part of a churches make up.
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Ok, gotcha, I did misunderstand...please forgive. I do value autonomy, but I am also concerned for Bible believing churches of all different stripes.  I may not agree with your approach on all things, but I believe we are following the same Lord, and that is why I would express my opinion when I see something I believe hurts the cause of Christ. Can't change it if an autonomous church decides to take an harmful course, but can always express opinion.  I see that is what you were doing here.

BTW..the church I pastor would hardly be considered contemporary in the sense of the ultra modern music & presentation. We are blended. While we do some more modern music, ie, that which is not only in the Baptist Hymnal..we are very selective in what we sing and the approach we take to it.  Secondly, I would not consider the moving away from KJVO necessarily a bad or harmful thing.
 
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