Ferguson: Nothing says 'I care' like looting and burning local businesses.

qwerty said:
Have you had a chance to review any of the document dump? At least read the witness statements (some have three different statements, all different). People can wine all they want, there are much better cases to use for police brutality or racism than this one.
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No. I listened to the prosecutor. He was thorough and I have no reason to believe otherwise.
 
Nope. Of course... it depends where you live.

My daughter was chased by an illegal Mexican last year. The police told me I would have been justified to shoot him (unarmed or not). We are in Alabama.

We were chased down in East St Louis by two black hooded kids. I didn't have my gun. A man with 2 German Shepard chased the kids down and saved us. I would have been prosecuted in Illinois. Found guilty, maybe maybe not.
 
aleshanee said:
FSSL said:
All we get from you on this is speculation. You have your mind made up that Ferguson has a bad cop.

It isn't rocket science what happened.

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great..... more condescending one liners.... this time with personal insults...... you already declared ferguson to be a racist town that survives off government handouts........ so it seems in your mind the case was closed before the grand jury heard it........ it;s really amazing what one bad experience in a place can do to some people......
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It's amazing you continue to speculate.
I can speak from experience and some local, first hand, knowledge of the area. We were warned to never go back to that area (as if we needed the warning.) That area has a well-established reputation of being racist and dangerous.
 
Through my travels, I am learning where and where not to go.
 
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Have you had a chance to review any of the document dump? At least read the witness statements (some have three different statements, all different). People can wine all they want, there are much better cases to use for police brutality or racism than this one.
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No. I listened to the prosecutor. He was thorough and I have no reason to believe otherwise.
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It's worth the time. I have seen some crazy witness interviews..... or at least thought I had before I read these. 

Was it in the media reports that Brown had marijuana in his system and on his person? Can't recall if I ever heard that our not. There is a toxicology report in the evidence (of both parties involved because this was so one-sided).
 
Well... your opinion is very judgemental and not based on facts.
 
There are alot of judgemental people burning cars and saying Wilson had no conscience.

Just because you have commonality of opinion with the rioters does not mean your opinion is just and right.
 
aleshanee said:
... but when i saw wilson interviewed on tv i didn;t see any evidence of a man with a conscience at work.........that is just my opinion......and like the other ... it is shared by thousands who saw the same interview i did.......
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aleshanee said:
don;t just throw out your own uninformed opinions... based on bad personal experience... as if your little one line edicts are truths engraved in stone and handed down by God.....

indifferent attitudes and words like yours are the very sort that incites the kind of anger we are seeing in these mainland cities.......
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now you are just getting downright nasty and lying.... falsely accusing me of something you know is not true......
 
Just watched an interview with Hannity ( :-X Faux News.....shame on me) and one of the Brown family attorneys regarding the grand jury evidence (Brown robbery and assault of convenience store clerk, Brown blocking street, hostile to cop, assaults cop in car, attempts to grab weapon, shuts door on cop, flees cop, stops and then charges cop despite being warned to stop) and found it to be extremely embarrassing for the Brown attorney as he avoided answering any question relating to the facts in evidence.  The truth is, like Jack Nicholson said, "you can't handle the truth".  Those being interviewed regarding the case proved that they don't want the facts, they want a public lynching of a white cop.
 
I know the Feds were going to gin up an accusation related to civil rights in the case. Anyone hear word if that has been dropped?
 
qwerty said:
Was it in the media reports that Brown had marijuana in his system and on his person? Can't recall if I ever heard that our not. There is a toxicology report in the evidence (of both parties involved because this was so one-sided).
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Hannity and Beck both noted this. I hardly listen to them (or Rush) anymore. But when in the car alone I get snippets.

Ben Carson and Allen West both have excellent articles. Ferguson is the result of race baiting and the liberal attempt to throw race relations back.

Obama continues to fan the flames by speaking of a justified frustration. What justified frustration is there?

Michael Browns step father is all the ready to "burn this b@$!# down!" They don't want nonviolence.
 
aleshanee said:
grand juries have evidence presented to them by the prosecutor...... and it;s almost always a prosecutor who believes the person he is presenting evidence against is guilty........ but what was evident last night when the prosecutor announced no indictment would be filed is that this prosecutor does not believe the person in question is guilty...... rather than seeing him as a suspect he was speaking about the accused officer as if he was a client who he felt the innocence of should have been a foregone conclusion..........

his tone of voice and manner of speech was almost condescending towards those who believe the officer should have been indicted..... and if that is any indication of the manner in which he presented his evidence to the grand jury then there was a miscarriage of justice in this case.......
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Here's another take on the prosecutor's conduct:


Headline:  "Missouri Prosecutor Gets A's, D's and F's for His Handling of Michael Brown Case"

St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert McCulloch, whose announcement and lengthy explanation of the grand jury’s findings two days ago touched off violent protests in Ferguson, “handled it perfectly” in conducting the investigation and disclosing the results, said William I. Aronwald, a former assistant district attorney and federal prosecutor in New York.
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McCulloch took the unusual step of having the 12 grand jurors hear all of the evidence in deciding whether Wilson, 28, who is white, should be charged for shooting and killing Michael Brown, a black and unarmed 18-year-old. Normally, McCulloch had said, an investigator would have summarized what witnesses said for the panel.
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Handing the evidence to a grand jury and letting it decide whether to charge the officer “takes the pressure off the prosecutors,” said Dmitry Gorin, a former Los Angeles prosecutor. “If I were in the position of the head district attorney, I would have done exactly the same thing.”
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-11-26/missouri-prosecutor-lauded-for-handling-of-shooting-probe.html

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There certainly might be cases of police brutality.
There certainly might be cases of police targeting young black men unfairly.

But the Brown case was most certainly NOT one of them.
The evidence and testimony is overwhelming that the officer was justified in his use of deadly force.
And, since the evidence has been made public, only the willfully bind will not see that!
 
Slightly modified comment I saw on Hotair:


If Michael Brown hadn’t robbed a store he’d be alive today.

If Michael Brown hadn’t stood in the middle of a street after being told to stop blocking traffic he’d be alive today.

If Michael Brown hadn’t slugged a cop’s head and tried to grab the cop's gun he’d be alive today.

If Michael Brown hadn’t turned around and charged a cop he’d be alive today.

In light of these facts, it's very difficult to pin his death on the cop's behavior or attitude. 
 
aleshanee said:

does it not make you wonder just a little bit why someone like mr hall ..who believes the government should take draconian executive action to enforce obamas agenda.. also agrees with you on the prosecutions handling of this case? ...
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Getting a little carried away here aren't we?

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aleshanee said:
...there is no doubt michael browns actions led to his death.... and officer wilson may very well have been justified in killing him........ but those are questions that should have been addressed in a public trial....due process......grand jurys are only to determine if evidence exists that might warrant an indictment.... and the presence of conflicting eye witnesses is exactly that..... grand jurys are not intended to weigh the evidence but only determine if it exists....a consensus is not required for a decision like it is in a trial... merely a majority vote... ..and they generally come to their conclusions in a matter of hours at most..... not months.....
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Actually... grand juries in special cases like this can take many months and up to three years to decide. That does not help your point in the least.

These facts demonstrate that due process was given:

1) A grand jury was established.
2) This jury had a CONSENSUS that there was no probable cause that a crime was committed. If your standard for a petit jury is a majority, then a 100% consensus should leave no doubt.

Due process. We know it is not the process you wish, but it was due process.
 
I didn't know you were an attorney.

Nancy Grace has a real credibility problem.

Besides... she wasn't on the jury.
 
Nancy Grace?  Seriously?  The former prosecutor who was sued for falsely accusing a man of being a serial killer?  The HLN host who was found guilty of repeated ethics violations by appellate courts?  You're putting your stock in her? 

 
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