Final Canonization

bgwilkinson said:
The Rogue Tomato said:
Purified Text Theory

The words of the NIV Holy Bible are divinely transmitted,                                                             
(infallible, infinite, eternal) inspired, preserved, canonized and purified.

Psalms 12:6  The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

1.  O.T. Hebrew Original Autographs  1500 B.C. - 389 B.C.

2.  O.T. Aramaic Original Autographs, Daniel 2:4 - 7:28  607 B.C.,

3.  N.T. Koine Greek Original Autographs  40 A.D. - 90 A.D.

4.  Old Syrian Texts  100 A.D. - 200 A.D.

5.  Old Latin Texts  100 A.D. - 200 A.D.

6.  Reformation English Texts  1382 A.D. - 1611 A.D.

7.  NIV 1978. Revised in 1984 and in 2011.

See?  I can post a series of 7 steps, too.
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Well of course NIVO is as authentic as KJVO, and just as logical.
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I prefer TIVO, actually. 
 
I like EVO. Especially for grilling.
 
Sir, you are unaware of history. The first time humanity ever learned to write the Perfect Language it was in Castile. Castilian Spanish and the Reina Valera translation are the Word of God. There is no longer a need for the Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek manuscripts as the Sublime Reina Valera was directly Inspired.

I sorrow for those of you whose Mother tounge is not the Supreme Queen Spanish. We can have no "you say tomato" song because of our precise phonetic structure. While ancient Greek had some verb tenses, Castilian Spanish, the Divine Language, has the most complex verb structures of any natural language.

If you wish to know the Word of God, first you must learn Spanish.

JR, with pararell to the Unholy Qu'ran and the gringo obsession with KJV, same argument, different language, see how silly?

BTW gringo means that to a native Spanish, the futile attempts to pronounce the Angelic Tounge sounds like Greek.

 
cubanito said:
Sir, you are unaware of history. The first time humanity ever learned to write the Perfect Language it was in Castile. Castilian Spanish and the Reina Valera translation are the Word of God. There is no longer a need for the Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek manuscripts as the Sublime Reina Valera was directly Inspired.

I sorrow for those of you whose Mother tounge is not the Supreme Queen Spanish. We can have no "you say tomato" song because of our precise phonetic structure. While ancient Greek had some verb tenses, Castilian Spanish, the Divine Language, has the most complex verb structures of any natural language.

If you wish to know the Word of God, first you must learn Spanish.

JR, with pararell to the Unholy Qu'ran and the gringo obsession with KJV, same argument, different language, see how silly?

BTW gringo means that to a native Spanish, the futile attempts to pronounce the Angelic Tounge sounds like Greek.
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LOL

Ok, I get it now, all your posts are a joke. :D :D :D
 
Makahiya2028 said:
The Lord persevered his words unto all generations.

1- When the Lord gave scripture to O.T. Jews, he gave it to them in their language.
2- When the Lord gave scripture to N.T. Christians, he gave it to them
in the language of the day.
3-Then the Lord gave nations Holy Bibles in their language.

4- Finally, the Lord gave the entire world Holy Bibles in the universal language,

5- which was translated into languages throughout the world.

The KJV Holy Bible is the most translated bible of all time.

The KJV Holy Bible is the most translated book of all time.

Predestination, inspiration and providence continued

throughout canonization and publication of scripture.

6- While the entire line of scripture are records, the outstanding record of scripture and the scripture of final authority is the published text and form
of the AV 1611 KJV Holy Bible first edition.

All KJV Bibles are editions of the AV 1611 KJV Holy Bible first edition.

7- The KJV Holy Bible is the most published, distributed and read bible of all time.

The KJV Holy Bible is the most published, distributed and read book of all time.



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1- To believe that Hebrew did not change for thousands of years is absurd. For example, in Ecclesiastes we have the PERSIAN word for paradise which did not come to the Jewish lexicon, as many other words, until the exhile. Frankly, I think all Genesis is a translation by Moses into early Hebrew of the patriarchal writings, but I admit that is specualtive.

2- So, when Latin replaced Greek as lingua franca, and Jerome produced the Vulgate, do you believe then the RC vulgate is more faithful than the original Greek?

3- Really, the Lord made sure each nation got a perfect translation. Think about that some more brother.

4- English the universal language? Please, please lets ask the Chinese, or how about South America? Oh and the French, boy they make sure theirs is THE universal language of diplomacy. As for universal languages, that claim belongs only to Esperanto, which is more Spanish than anything else. Friend you need to get out more.

5- The KJV the most translated book of all time? Are you referencing th NewKJV or are you just really, really confused between a translation and a reprint? The earliest translated set of books is the OT (septuagint), and by far the OT and particularly the NT are the most translated book. But the KJV is just one translation, very popular perhaps the most popular, but just one.

6- So now God's Word derive's it's authority from a homosexual King who was quite friendly towards Rome until (I think) Guy Fawkes and buddies tried to blow up parliament. Well, check me on my English history there, but that Queen Jamita was, well, in the terms of Koinonie Greek, a "soft man" is beyond question. Now this is interesting, like North American blacks voting >95% for the Democrats, party of slavery, the KKK and Jim Crow, we have the KJVOnly crowd having God submit to the authority of "soft man" James ehose intructions to the translators included that a "middle way" be found between the Protestants and Rome. To this day the Anglican Church promotes the Laodice...  err, sorry, the lukewa.... err, sorry again, the "middle way": and THIS is the translation the hyper-strident KJVO crowd affixes itself to!  Can anyone see the irony here?

7- The reason for the KJV success has less to do with it's inherent merit and more to do with the power of the British crown. When you could get free KJV Bibles financed by the Crown, but would be under suspicion at minimum for owning a Great Bible, or the Geneva Bible well, ladi da, presto magiko, or in the words of medieval Roman priests "Hocus Pocus" we have a financial winner.

So does that mean that I am wrong to prefer the NASB to the NIV "translation" because the NIV is the most common modern English translation? So now Truth is a matter of who has the most money to print? Really, this is quite the irony.

The KJV is a translation, I ought to think a good one (until I began to examine it carefully). To make it an Idol is sacriligeous.

Oh well, the last time I injected somebody's ankle at Church I took out a votive candle with the picture of the crippled "St Lazarus" and dripped melted wax in the shape of a cross on the ankle while chanting what parts of "Ave Maria" I still remember. That was funny, not really idolatrous, but you KJVO guys are close to the full on idolatry.

JR
 
bgwilkinson said:
cubanito said:
Sir, you are unaware of history. The first time humanity ever learned to write the Perfect Language it was in Castile. Castilian Spanish and the Reina Valera translation are the Word of God. There is no longer a need for the Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek manuscripts as the Sublime Reina Valera was directly Inspired.

I sorrow for those of you whose Mother tounge is not the Supreme Queen Spanish. We can have no "you say tomato" song because of our precise phonetic structure. While ancient Greek had some verb tenses, Castilian Spanish, the Divine Language, has the most complex verb structures of any natural language.

If you wish to know the Word of God, first you must learn Spanish.

JR, with pararell to the Unholy Qu'ran and the gringo obsession with KJV, same argument, different language, see how silly?

BTW gringo means that to a native Spanish, the futile attempts to pronounce the Angelic Tounge sounds like Greek.
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LOL

Ok, I get it now, all your posts are a joke. :D :D :D
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And a parody is often an excellent way to demonstrate a point of logic. Spanish is much more an universal language than English.

The unnoticed uninformed arrogance of KJVO is breathtaking.

JR
 
I like EVOO, can hardly cook without it. And I like Devo, which is on Vevo, though I don't listen to them often.

As for biblical translations, I learn toward RSVO (the whole RSV familty, including ESV and NRSV, I like 'em all).
 
Makahiya2028 said:
I've conferenced with KJV Only Christians and was able to explain

that all scripture is given by inspiration of God .


Also, I have conferenced with Original Manuscripts Only Christians

and was able to explain that issue .
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You have not demonstrated that you are willing and able to explain and present any positive, consistent, sound, scriptural case for your claims and opinions.
 
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