Hot Topics in the news affecting Christianity not discussed, why?

[banjoplucker]

With the Muslim faith  growing in strength and even in legal decisions given "protected" status and Christianity becoming second, or even third class with respect to LGBT, why are there no discussions on this forum with what is happening in Christianity TODAY.  We just seem to stand there and let the Secular bus run us over.    Mississippi and North Carolina at least are taking a stand. 

I see one post about started about Muslim no go zones and of course the great minds just take time to playground bash the person.  I feel bad that BibleBeliever actually thought that this Forum actually had intelligent thought.

BibleBeliever there are a few that post useful posts, but by far what I see is the many have never learned to be an Adult. 

Why are we not voicing our outrage.  You would think we Lost the fight. 

Even with the Bathroom issues.  I find it hard to fathom that most of the people on this forum have no issues with neutral gender bathrooms, now with the University in Toronto having reports of voyeurism, at least we see what this will lead to. 

http://www.dailywire.com/news/330/university-toronto-dumps-transgender-bathrooms-pardes-seleh?platform=hootsuite

It seems all many want to do is fight just to fight.   

 

[Ransom]

With the Muslim faith  growing in strength and even in legal decisions given "protected" status and Christianity becoming second, or even third class with respect to LGBT, why are there no discussions on this forum with what is happening in Christianity TODAY.

Why are you being lazy? If you want to talk about Muslims or LGBT issues, and you don't see a thread, start your own.

 

[FSSL]

I find it hard to fathom that most of the people on this forum have no issues with neutral gender bathrooms,...

Well banjoplucker, I don't know how you can say that "most of the people on this forum have no issues" with these topics. While there are a a couple of people who are not against it, the majority of the people on this forum are certainly against "transgenderism, lgbt, gay" issues. Perhaps you could tell us what more we could say against these things.

 

[Ransom]

now with the University in Toronto having reports of voyeurism

By "now" you mean "then," right? Because that article is more than six months old.

 

[FreeToBeMe]

:  good grief....

banjoplucker, what are you doing to bring about change?  "Voicing your outrage" in a forum largely populated by folks who feel the same as you about these issues isn't going to change a thing. 

 

[subllibrm]

Everything on your list has been discussed in the last month. Sorry that you didn't get the memo.

 

[Ransom]

Everything on your list has been discussed in the last month. Sorry that you didn't get the memo.

It's OK. He was probably too busy finding quarters on the lawn with a divining rod.

 

[subllibrm]

Everything on your list has been discussed in the last month. Sorry that you didn't get the memo.

It's OK. He was probably too busy finding quarters on the lawn with a divining rod.

Canadian coins are even easier. Magnet gets 'em every time!  ;D

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Why are we not voicing our outrage.  You would think we Lost the fight. 

Even with the Bathroom issues.  I find it hard to fathom that most of the people on this forum have no issues with neutral gender bathrooms, now with the University in Toronto having reports of voyeurism, at least we see what this will lead to. 
 

How was Abraham outraged with the sins of Sodom?

RNS: You note that words related to homosexuality are never used in the Old Testament, even though two verses mention it briefly. You add that the Old Testament is more concerned about the topic of goat-boiling than homosexuality. Do American Christians place more emphasis and weight on this topic than the Old Testament, in your opinion? What?s the remedy?

DL: Some Christians emphasize homosexuality too much, thinking it?s the biggest sin. Others, too little, thinking it?s too controversial. The remedy? To focus on Sodom.

If you ask people about Sodom, they?ll tell you it was destroyed by fire and brimstone for homosexual behavior since they wanted to gang rape Lot?s angelic visitors. However, readers of Prostitutes and Polygamists may be shocked to learn Sodom?s backstory. The biblical text never records the residents of Sodom performing homosexual acts, but it makes it clear they were guilty of injustice and inhospitality, and therefore deserved judgment. But beforehand, God was gracious toward Sodom?slow to anger, delivering them in battle, and warning the residents of the city to flee. Abraham even risked his life on two separate occasions for the residents of Sodom. Wouldn?t it be great if more Christians were like Abraham, risking their lives for people associated with the sins of Sodom?

From polygamy to incest, confronting the Old Testament?s strange sexual standards

 

[Izdaari]

With the Muslim faith  growing in strength and even in legal decisions given "protected" status and Christianity becoming second, or even third class with respect to LGBT, why are there no discussions on this forum with what is happening in Christianity TODAY.  We just seem to stand there and let the Secular bus run us over.    Mississippi and North Carolina at least are taking a stand. 

I see one post about started about Muslim no go zones and of course the great minds just take time to playground bash the person.  I feel bad that BibleBeliever actually thought that this Forum actually had intelligent thought.

BibleBeliever there are a few that post useful posts, but by far what I see is the many have never learned to be an Adult. 

Why are we not voicing our outrage.  You would think we Lost the fight. 

Even with the Bathroom issues.  I find it hard to fathom that most of the people on this forum have no issues with neutral gender bathrooms, now with the University in Toronto having reports of voyeurism, at least we see what this will lead to. 

http://www.dailywire.com/news/330/university-toronto-dumps-transgender-bathrooms-pardes-seleh?platform=hootsuite

It seems all many want to do is fight just to fight. 

You;re not off to a good start by issuing blanket insults to the entire forum.

I did respond on the Muslim no-go zones topic, and I said it was the same mistake they made in Belgium, and that they shouldn't be allowed here. Was that not a serious response?

You're right that recent pro-discrimination laws in Mississippi and North Carolina are worthy of discussion. I would say worthy of condemnation, since they are pro-discrimination, and discrimination is NOT a Christian value.

 

[prophet]

Why are we not voicing our outrage.  You would think we Lost the fight. 

Even with the Bathroom issues.  I find it hard to fathom that most of the people on this forum have no issues with neutral gender bathrooms, now with the University in Toronto having reports of voyeurism, at least we see what this will lead to. 
 

How was Abraham outraged with the sins of Sodom?

RNS: You note that words related to homosexuality are never used in the Old Testament, even though two verses mention it briefly. You add that the Old Testament is more concerned about the topic of goat-boiling than homosexuality. Do American Christians place more emphasis and weight on this topic than the Old Testament, in your opinion? What?s the remedy?

DL: Some Christians emphasize homosexuality too much, thinking it?s the biggest sin. Others, too little, thinking it?s too controversial. The remedy? To focus on Sodom.

If you ask people about Sodom, they?ll tell you it was destroyed by fire and brimstone for homosexual behavior since they wanted to gang rape Lot?s angelic visitors. However, readers of Prostitutes and Polygamists may be shocked to learn Sodom?s backstory. The biblical text never records the residents of Sodom performing homosexual acts, but it makes it clear they were guilty of injustice and inhospitality, and therefore deserved judgment. But beforehand, God was gracious toward Sodom?slow to anger, delivering them in battle, and warning the residents of the city to flee. Abraham even risked his life on two separate occasions for the residents of Sodom. Wouldn?t it be great if more Christians were like Abraham, risking their lives for people associated with the sins of Sodom?

From polygamy to incest, confronting the Old Testament?s strange sexual standards

Wow.
Lot was told to bring his guests out to be sexually assaulted, and when he refused, they said "now we'll rape you".
The only reason they didnt is that the angels blinded them and yanked Lot back inside.

Sodom was full of pride.

Ezekiel 16:49
Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

Amazingly enough, Sodomites still are full of Pride.
It is the banner under which they march.

This is a crock of modernist crap.



earnestly contend

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Why are we not voicing our outrage.  You would think we Lost the fight. 

Even with the Bathroom issues.  I find it hard to fathom that most of the people on this forum have no issues with neutral gender bathrooms, now with the University in Toronto having reports of voyeurism, at least we see what this will lead to. 
 

How was Abraham outraged with the sins of Sodom?

RNS: You note that words related to homosexuality are never used in the Old Testament, even though two verses mention it briefly. You add that the Old Testament is more concerned about the topic of goat-boiling than homosexuality. Do American Christians place more emphasis and weight on this topic than the Old Testament, in your opinion? What?s the remedy?

DL: Some Christians emphasize homosexuality too much, thinking it?s the biggest sin. Others, too little, thinking it?s too controversial. The remedy? To focus on Sodom.

If you ask people about Sodom, they?ll tell you it was destroyed by fire and brimstone for homosexual behavior since they wanted to gang rape Lot?s angelic visitors. However, readers of Prostitutes and Polygamists may be shocked to learn Sodom?s backstory. The biblical text never records the residents of Sodom performing homosexual acts, but it makes it clear they were guilty of injustice and inhospitality, and therefore deserved judgment. But beforehand, God was gracious toward Sodom?slow to anger, delivering them in battle, and warning the residents of the city to flee. Abraham even risked his life on two separate occasions for the residents of Sodom. Wouldn?t it be great if more Christians were like Abraham, risking their lives for people associated with the sins of Sodom?

From polygamy to incest, confronting the Old Testament?s strange sexual standards

Wow.
Lot was told to bring his guests out to be sexually assaulted, and when he refused, they said "now we'll rape you".
The only reason they didnt is that the angels blinded them and yanked Lot back inside.

Sodom was full of pride.

Ezekiel 16:49
Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

Amazingly enough, Sodomites still are full of Pride.
It is the banner under which they march.

This is a crock of modernist crap.



earnestly contend

So you made his point. Sodom wasn't about consensual same-sex relationships but rather about pride, arrogance, wealthy, living in greed and not caring for the marginalized. In addition, their sexual proclivities were about aggression against the will of the victim.

The point I was making was this: what was Abraham's response to Sodom? Did he not ask God to spare them? How are we as Christ followers doing the same when we are calling for God's destruction on those who are more civil than those in Sodom? How is wanting their destruction fit the idea of loving one's enemy?

 

[prophet]

Why are we not voicing our outrage.  You would think we Lost the fight. 

Even with the Bathroom issues.  I find it hard to fathom that most of the people on this forum have no issues with neutral gender bathrooms, now with the University in Toronto having reports of voyeurism, at least we see what this will lead to. 
 

How was Abraham outraged with the sins of Sodom?

RNS: You note that words related to homosexuality are never used in the Old Testament, even though two verses mention it briefly. You add that the Old Testament is more concerned about the topic of goat-boiling than homosexuality. Do American Christians place more emphasis and weight on this topic than the Old Testament, in your opinion? What?s the remedy?

DL: Some Christians emphasize homosexuality too much, thinking it?s the biggest sin. Others, too little, thinking it?s too controversial. The remedy? To focus on Sodom.

If you ask people about Sodom, they?ll tell you it was destroyed by fire and brimstone for homosexual behavior since they wanted to gang rape Lot?s angelic visitors. However, readers of Prostitutes and Polygamists may be shocked to learn Sodom?s backstory. The biblical text never records the residents of Sodom performing homosexual acts, but it makes it clear they were guilty of injustice and inhospitality, and therefore deserved judgment. But beforehand, God was gracious toward Sodom?slow to anger, delivering them in battle, and warning the residents of the city to flee. Abraham even risked his life on two separate occasions for the residents of Sodom. Wouldn?t it be great if more Christians were like Abraham, risking their lives for people associated with the sins of Sodom?

From polygamy to incest, confronting the Old Testament?s strange sexual standards

Wow.
Lot was told to bring his guests out to be sexually assaulted, and when he refused, they said "now we'll rape you".
The only reason they didnt is that the angels blinded them and yanked Lot back inside.

Sodom was full of pride.

Ezekiel 16:49
Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

Amazingly enough, Sodomites still are full of Pride.
It is the banner under which they march.

This is a crock of modernist crap.



earnestly contend

So you made his point. Sodom wasn't about consensual same-sex relationships but rather about pride, arrogance, wealthy, living in greed and not caring for the marginalized. In addition, their sexual proclivities were about aggression against the will of the victim.

The point I was making was this: what was Abraham's response to Sodom? Did he not ask God to spare them? How are we as Christ followers doing the same when we are calling for God's destruction on those who are more civil than those in Sodom? How is wanting their destruction fit the idea of loving one's enemy?

You do understand that Abraham lost relatives in Sodom's overthrow, don't you?

You do understand that pride is an abomination, don't you?

You do understand that people who are recruited through molestation, who in turn practice the same perversion, are a danger to children , don't you?

You do understand that the Pride marchers can get jobs as teachers, and pass on their hatred of all things righteous to the simple, don't you?

I'm sure your kids have been safe, but some of us weren't so lucky.

Go soak your head, you fairy!

earnestly contend

 

[Izdaari]

Gays don't "recruit" though molestation, but child molesters, rapists and serial killers do.
Confusing the two categories is insulting, demeaning, and very ignorantly prejudiced.
Homophobia much?

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Gays don't "recruit" though molestation, but child molesters, rapists and serial killers do.
Confusing the two categories is insulting, demeaning, and very ignorantly prejudiced.
Homophobia much?

Exactly. There is a difference between predatory and consensual behaviors. Sodom displayed the former and there is no mention of the latter.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Why are we not voicing our outrage.  You would think we Lost the fight. 

Even with the Bathroom issues.  I find it hard to fathom that most of the people on this forum have no issues with neutral gender bathrooms, now with the University in Toronto having reports of voyeurism, at least we see what this will lead to. 
 

How was Abraham outraged with the sins of Sodom?

RNS: You note that words related to homosexuality are never used in the Old Testament, even though two verses mention it briefly. You add that the Old Testament is more concerned about the topic of goat-boiling than homosexuality. Do American Christians place more emphasis and weight on this topic than the Old Testament, in your opinion? What?s the remedy?

DL: Some Christians emphasize homosexuality too much, thinking it?s the biggest sin. Others, too little, thinking it?s too controversial. The remedy? To focus on Sodom.

If you ask people about Sodom, they?ll tell you it was destroyed by fire and brimstone for homosexual behavior since they wanted to gang rape Lot?s angelic visitors. However, readers of Prostitutes and Polygamists may be shocked to learn Sodom?s backstory. The biblical text never records the residents of Sodom performing homosexual acts, but it makes it clear they were guilty of injustice and inhospitality, and therefore deserved judgment. But beforehand, God was gracious toward Sodom?slow to anger, delivering them in battle, and warning the residents of the city to flee. Abraham even risked his life on two separate occasions for the residents of Sodom. Wouldn?t it be great if more Christians were like Abraham, risking their lives for people associated with the sins of Sodom?

From polygamy to incest, confronting the Old Testament?s strange sexual standards

Wow.
Lot was told to bring his guests out to be sexually assaulted, and when he refused, they said "now we'll rape you".
The only reason they didnt is that the angels blinded them and yanked Lot back inside.

Sodom was full of pride.

Ezekiel 16:49
Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

Amazingly enough, Sodomites still are full of Pride.
It is the banner under which they march.

This is a crock of modernist crap.



earnestly contend

So you made his point. Sodom wasn't about consensual same-sex relationships but rather about pride, arrogance, wealthy, living in greed and not caring for the marginalized. In addition, their sexual proclivities were about aggression against the will of the victim.

The point I was making was this: what was Abraham's response to Sodom? Did he not ask God to spare them? How are we as Christ followers doing the same when we are calling for God's destruction on those who are more civil than those in Sodom? How is wanting their destruction fit the idea of loving one's enemy?

You do understand that Abraham lost relatives in Sodom's overthrow, don't you?

You do understand that pride is an abomination, don't you?

You do understand that people who are recruited through molestation, who in turn practice the same perversion, are a danger to children , don't you?

You do understand that the Pride marchers can get jobs as teachers, and pass on their hatred of all things righteous to the simple, don't you?

I'm sure your kids have been safe, but some of us weren't so lucky.

Go soak your head, you fairy!

earnestly contend

Actually not as "safe" as you think. Believe me, I hate having to post that truth.

 

[Recovering IFB]

Gays don't "recruit" though molestation, but child molesters, rapists and serial killers do.
Confusing the two categories is insulting, demeaning, and very ignorantly prejudiced.
Homophobia much?

Exactly. There is a difference between predatory and consensual behaviors. Sodom displayed the former and there is no mention of the latter.

But, according to Leviticus 18, it is still a sin, regardless

 

[prophet]

Gays don't "recruit" though molestation, but child molesters, rapists and serial killers do.
Confusing the two categories is insulting, demeaning, and very ignorantly prejudiced.
Homophobia much?

earnestly contend

 

[prophet]

Gays don't "recruit" though molestation, but child molesters, rapists and serial killers do.
Confusing the two categories is insulting, demeaning, and very ignorantly prejudiced.
Homophobia much?

What is a "gay"?

And what does that have to do with Sodomites?


How about "without natural affection"?

That ring a bell?

What is "homophobic"?
Some modernist term to describe normal people with natural affection?



earnestly contend

 

[prophet]

Gays don't "recruit" though molestation, but child molesters, rapists and serial killers do.
Confusing the two categories is insulting, demeaning, and very ignorantly prejudiced.
Homophobia much?

Exactly. There is a difference between predatory and consensual behaviors. Sodom displayed the former and there is no mention of the latter.

Of course, there wasn't one single fag in Sodom that consented to abominable sex, yet there was a whole city of men ready to rape two strangers.

That's like saying that prison butt pirates aren't really "(insert bogus term here......)".

The English word is named after Sodom....
Do you ever get tired of the gymnastics it takes you to never condemn what God condemns?

earnestly contend