How many had parents that couldn't live up to "fundamental" standards?

Izdaari said:
My parents were nominally Christian, but in practice not really religious at all, They didn't know anything about "fundamental standards", and wouldn't have cared.

The net result is that I was left to my own devices spiritually, which in the long run probably worked out for the best. At least I didn't have a lot to unlearn or rebel against.

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Smellin Coffee said:
praise_yeshua said:
I very seriously doubt that anyone is exempt from this. My parents didn't live up to "fundamental standards". In fact, I personally don't know anyone that does. Don't think I ever have.

I don't think I have to use the word that this "describes".....

My mother loved Conway Twitty. I mean she LOVED him. The wife of the pastor..... that preached the message the night I received Christ.... LOVED Elvis. I mean LOVED Elvis.

In fact, I don't think this is an isolated issue. Most of the time, if you can get a fundy to "let down" their guard or pretense..... they pretty much would tell you the same things.

What about you? What is your experience?

My parents did live what they believed. Looking back, I currently and adamantly disagree with some of the things they believed/did at the time but I can say they were as consistent at home as they appeared at HAC. My beef here is with the system which indoctrinated them than it is with them personally.
Very loving response Smellin, good for you  :)
 
My parents were not Fundamentalists, nor religious at all.They didn't go to church. They had very few rules I recall. But one they were strict about. No church. A few times I snuck in and went to the Lutheran church with a friend as a kid. Good food and excellent tasting wine.

I didn't step into a church until about 8 1/2 yrs ago( my mid 30's)

 
My parents became more sanctified (set apart) as they learned the Bible and grew in grace.  They provided us a great example of separating themselves from worldliness while not losing their ability to reach the lost world.  Separation enhanced their evangelistic efforts.  The world needs to see transformation, not conformation.  (Rom 12:1-2) 

 
 
Frag said:
My parents became more sanctified (set apart) as they learned the Bible and grew in grace.  They provided us a great example of separating themselves from worldliness while not losing their ability to reach the lost world.  Separation enhanced their evangelistic efforts.  The world needs to see transformation, not conformation.  (Rom 12:1-2) 

I agree as long as the transformation is toward godliness in heart not a list of external dos and don'ts.

Conformity to your sock/pants standard is no more holy than conforming to the local MOOSE club. And getting black balled from your club is no more disgraceful than from theirs.
 
subllibrm said:
Frag said:
My parents became more sanctified (set apart) as they learned the Bible and grew in grace.  They provided us a great example of separating themselves from worldliness while not losing their ability to reach the lost world.  Separation enhanced their evangelistic efforts.  The world needs to see transformation, not conformation.  (Rom 12:1-2) 

I agree as long as the transformation is toward godliness in heart not a list of external dos and don'ts.

Conformity to your sock/pants standard is no more holy than conforming to the local MOOSE club. And getting black balled from your club is no more disgraceful than from theirs.

It is impossible to ultimately separate the external from the internal.  What is inside will eventually come out -- bad or good. 

My stance on proper sock sorting is not a conviction.  It is to me a logical preference. 

Cross dressing -- now that is a solid conviction based on Bible principles and precepts.
 
Frag said:
subllibrm said:
Frag said:
My parents became more sanctified (set apart) as they learned the Bible and grew in grace.  They provided us a great example of separating themselves from worldliness while not losing their ability to reach the lost world.  Separation enhanced their evangelistic efforts.  The world needs to see transformation, not conformation.  (Rom 12:1-2) 

I agree as long as the transformation is toward godliness in heart not a list of external dos and don'ts.

Conformity to your sock/pants standard is no more holy than conforming to the local MOOSE club. And getting black balled from your club is no more disgraceful than from theirs.

It is impossible to ultimately separate the external from the internal.  What is inside will eventually come out -- bad or good. 

My stance on proper sock sorting is not a conviction.  It is to me a logical preference. 

Cross dressing -- now that is a solid conviction based on Bible principles and precepts.

Honest question Frag.

When men wore robes in bible times were they cross dressing? 

If not why?
 
Frag said:
My parents became more sanctified (set apart) as they learned the Bible and grew in grace.  They provided us a great example of separating themselves from worldliness while not losing their ability to reach the lost world.  Separation enhanced their evangelistic efforts.  The world needs to see transformation, not conformation.  (Rom 12:1-2) 
What I don't see here is where God got any of the glory for any of this. It's Christ who performs the good work in us, what I see here, which doesn't surprise me, is that I human effort, works based humility.
 
... lest anyone should boast.
 
Frag said:
subllibrm said:
Frag said:
My parents became more sanctified (set apart) as they learned the Bible and grew in grace.  They provided us a great example of separating themselves from worldliness while not losing their ability to reach the lost world.  Separation enhanced their evangelistic efforts.  The world needs to see transformation, not conformation.  (Rom 12:1-2) 

I agree as long as the transformation is toward godliness in heart not a list of external dos and don'ts.

Conformity to your sock/pants standard is no more holy than conforming to the local MOOSE club. And getting black balled from your club is no more disgraceful than from theirs.

It is impossible to ultimately separate the external from the internal.  What is inside will eventually come out -- bad or good. 

I agree but the change is from the inside out.

The whole wolf in sheep's clothing metaphor speaks to this truth.

Whited sepulchers ring any bells?

And "By their fruits you shall know them" is not referring to their wardrobe.
 
Bruh said:
Frag said:
subllibrm said:
Frag said:
My parents became more sanctified (set apart) as they learned the Bible and grew in grace.  They provided us a great example of separating themselves from worldliness while not losing their ability to reach the lost world.  Separation enhanced their evangelistic efforts.  The world needs to see transformation, not conformation.  (Rom 12:1-2) 

I agree as long as the transformation is toward godliness in heart not a list of external dos and don'ts.

Conformity to your sock/pants standard is no more holy than conforming to the local MOOSE club. And getting black balled from your club is no more disgraceful than from theirs.

It is impossible to ultimately separate the external from the internal.  What is inside will eventually come out -- bad or good. 

My stance on proper sock sorting is not a conviction.  It is to me a logical preference. 

Cross dressing -- now that is a solid conviction based on Bible principles and precepts.

Honest question Frag.

When men wore robes in bible times were they cross dressing? 

If not why?

I too would like to know.
 
As long as we have this dead horse propped up for a new round of kicking, anyone want to weigh in on men with facial hair?
 
subllibrm said:
As long as we have this dead horse propped up for a new round of kicking, anyone want to weigh in on men with facial hair?

Uni-brows are of da debil!
 
subllibrm said:
As long as we have this dead horse propped up for a new round of kicking, anyone want to weigh in on men with facial hair?

A neatly trimmed beard can IMHO be very attractive on some men.
 
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