I needed a diversion so I came here for an hour.

Bruh said:
Maybe there’s insufficient evidence to warrant an investigation into someone like Nancy Pelosi and others in the government that become multi millionaires after getting into a government role, right?
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And there you go pivoting to another motte again.
 
Bruh said:
Maybe there’s insufficient evidence to warrant an investigation into someone like Nancy Pelosi and others in the government that become multi millionaires after getting into a government role, right?

Gotta be consistent in our thought process.
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Stop trying to convince Nancy. His head is so far up his butt he's peeking through his own nostrils.

*cue characteristic mother trash talk.
 
So I asked GROK about this:

**Jeffrey Epstein was convicted in 2008 of two state charges in Florida related to soliciting prostitution.**

### Details of the 2008 Conviction
- **Charges**: He pleaded guilty to:
- One count of **soliciting prostitution** (felony).
- One count of **procuring a person under 18 for prostitution** (soliciting/ procuring a minor for prostitution).
- **Sentence**: 18 months in jail (with significant work-release privileges allowing him to leave during the day for much of the term), followed by probation and sex offender registration.
- This stemmed from a 2005–2008 investigation in Palm Beach County involving multiple underage girls. A controversial non-prosecution agreement with federal prosecutors shielded him from more serious federal charges at the time.

### 2019 Federal Charges
In July 2019, Epstein was arrested and federally charged in New York with:
- **Sex trafficking of minors**.
- **Conspiracy to commit sex trafficking of minors**.

These charges alleged he ran a trafficking network involving dozens of girls as young as 14 between 2002 and 2005 in New York and Florida. He pleaded not guilty, but he died by suicide in jail in August 2019 before any trial or conviction could occur.

In short, his only **conviction** was the 2008 Florida plea deal for offenses involving solicitation of prostitution, including with a minor. The 2019 case did not result in a conviction due to his death.


I am sure that there is plenty more to read but the synopsis here doesn't mention anything about being convicted with any relation to a network. The later federal charges did but he died before any trial let alone a conviction.

One more thing to consider. Maybe he was the linchpin witness against a network and without his testimony the case(s) against anyone else died with him. Dead men tell no tales.
 
subllibrm said:
I am sure that there is plenty more to read but the synopsis here doesn't mention anything about being convicted with any relation to a network. The later federal charges did but he died before any trial let alone a conviction.
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That's true, but also note that Ghislaine Maxwell was tried and convicted of (amongst other things) three counts of sex-trafficking conspiracy.

It's possible that the conspiracy was her and Epstein. But the existence of a larger network is, at least, plausible. Of course the issue under debate is not whether pedophile rings exist, but whether "the government" is protecting that as-yet unnamed network.
 
Ransom said:
And there you go pivoting to another motte again.
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No I’m absolutely not. I’m giving you another example. Because if I said Nancy Pelosi is guilty of insider trade you’d say, prove it!

But by your logic there’s nothing there because she’s never been investigated by my government and many others.
 
subllibrm said:
So I asked GROK about this:

**Jeffrey Epstein was convicted in 2008 of two state charges in Florida related to soliciting prostitution.**

### Details of the 2008 Conviction
- **Charges**: He pleaded guilty to:
- One count of **soliciting prostitution** (felony).
- One count of **procuring a person under 18 for prostitution** (soliciting/ procuring a minor for prostitution).
- **Sentence**: 18 months in jail (with significant work-release privileges allowing him to leave during the day for much of the term), followed by probation and sex offender registration.
- This stemmed from a 2005–2008 investigation in Palm Beach County involving multiple underage girls. A controversial non-prosecution agreement with federal prosecutors shielded him from more serious federal charges at the time.

### 2019 Federal Charges
In July 2019, Epstein was arrested and federally charged in New York with:
- **Sex trafficking of minors**.
- **Conspiracy to commit sex trafficking of minors**.

These charges alleged he ran a trafficking network involving dozens of girls as young as 14 between 2002 and 2005 in New York and Florida. He pleaded not guilty, but he died by suicide in jail in August 2019 before any trial or conviction could occur.

In short, his only **conviction** was the 2008 Florida plea deal for offenses involving solicitation of prostitution, including with a minor. The 2019 case did not result in a conviction due to his death.


I am sure that there is plenty more to read but the synopsis here doesn't mention anything about being convicted with any relation to a network. The later federal charges did but he died before any trial let alone a conviction.

One more thing to consider. Maybe he was the linchpin witness against a network and without his testimony the case(s) against anyone else died with him. Dead men tell no tales.
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Nancy Pelosi has never been charged with insider trading or investigated. The public at large must just be stupid people like yours truly.
 
subllibrm said:
And how do you know that no one else has been investigated?
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I’m willing to eat my words if I’m wrong. Not one person will be arrested. If someone is arrested it’ll be some guy that works at Burger King flipping burgers.
 
Bruh said:
Nancy Pelosi has never been charged with insider trading or investigated. The public at large must just be stupid people like yours truly.
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Your answer is but Pelosi!?! What pray tell does that have to do with anything?

You have insisted from the start that Epstein's conviction was for a trafficking network. I posted information that shows that you were wrong about the charges for which he was convicted. Nothing about a network.
 
subllibrm said:
Your answer is but Pelosi!?! What pray tell does that have to do with anything?

You have insisted from the start that Epstein's conviction was for a trafficking network. I posted information that shows that you were wrong about the charges for which he was convicted. Nothing about a network.
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You are correct I am wrong about my information about him being convicted. I looked it up again and he was only arrested but died in prison before going to court.

To be clear, I wasn’t lying on purpose. I read it in passing in a hurry.

But I still believe he’s guilty and the government is covering it up.

Obviously people can believe what they want about anything. And I can be called whatever but to believe our government about anything is absurd.
 
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