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Is the TR Equal to the Autographs?
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Not true.
Prov 4:22, John 6:63, Heb 4:12.
These Scriptures, many others, teach that the actual WORDS on the pages of the Bible are LIVING.
Sorry but you misspoke this time.
I'm still waiting to hear how Jesus read from the 1769 edition of the AV1611.
Which was...?Same way He read from "the originals".
Not sure if "Reading is Fun" phonics method was available back then.
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But your school obviously had a lifetime subscription to "Making Assertions Without Evidence Is Fun."
Says the cultist.But your school obviously had a lifetime subscription to "Making Assertions Without Evidence Is Fun."
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And this conclusion requires that we admit that the 1611 was not.
The claim has been made that the 1611 translators were led (inspired) to create an English translation without any errors. Yet they clearly failed if it needed to be fixed 158 years later.
What led to the revision of the perfect bible?
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Says the cultist.
The above meaningless whatever-you-call-t brought to you by the big brains at Big KJV, who think being retarded is just as good as actual evidence and reason.
The Alinskyite brainwashing accomplished upon your room temperature IQ is astonishing.The above meaningless whatever-you-call-t brought to you by the big brains at Big KJV, who think being retarded is just as good as actual evidence and reason.
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Item #1:
The conclusion does not "require" any such admission since the 1769 edition IS the 1611 Translation. I think the concept of (editions) is misunderstood by this objection.
Item #1 is refuted.
Item #2:
Later typographical errors do not affect the Translation since the science of movable type and the printing press were still in its infancy. This fact is no different than the ancient process by which scribes copied Scripture. When an error on a given page occurred, they discarded that page and rewrote it.
Item#2 is refuted.
Item#3 has been answered.
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But the the 1769 edition of the AV1611 was?
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There are significant differences between the AV1611 and the 1769 revision - more than just spelling changes or typographical errors. So which of these two is the infallible version? They cannot both be infallible.
Leviticus 26:23, 1611: "And if ye will not be reformed by these things." 1769: "And if ye will not be reformed by me by these things."
Numbers 7:31, 1611: "Of an 130 shekels." 1769: "Of the weight of an 130 shekels."
Ruth 3:15, 1611: "And he went into the citie." 1769, "And she went into the city." [Who went into the city?]
Esther 3:4, 1611: "Whether Mordecai his matters would stand." 1769, "Whether Mordecai's matters would stand."
Psalm 69:32, 1611: "And your heart shall live that seek good." 1769, "And your heart shall live that seek God."
Psalm 105:30, 1611: "The land brought forth frogs." 1769, "Their land brought forth frogs."
Isaiah 51:16, 1611: "And have covered thee." 1769, "And I have covered thee."
Jeremiah 40:5: "Over all the cities of Judah." 1769, "Over the cities of Judah."
Daniel 3:15, 1611: "A fiery furnace." 1769, "A burning fiery furnace."
Zechariah 11:2, 1611: "Because all the mighty are spoiled" 1769, "Because the mighty are spoiled."
Matthew 3:11, 1611: "But will burne up the chaffe." 1769, "But he will burn up the chaff."
Matthew 12:23, 1611, "Is this the sonne of David?" 1769, "Is not this the son of David?"
Mark 10:18, 1611, "There is no man good, but one." 1769, "There is none good, but one."
Luke 1:3, 1611, "Having had perfect understanding of things." 1769, "Having had perfect understanding of all things."
1 Corinthians 4:9, 1611, "As it were approved to death." 1769, "As it were appointed to death."
1 Corinthians 15:6, 1611, "And that hee was seene." 1769, "After that he was seen."
1 Corinthians 15:41, 1611, "Another of the moone." 1769, "Another glory of the moon."
1 Timothy 1:4, 1611, "Rather than edifying which is in faith." 1769, "Rather than godly edifying which is in faith."
2 Timothy 4:13, 1611, "Bring with thee, but especially the parchments." 1769, "Bring with thee, and the books, but especially the parchments."
1 John 5:12, 1611, "hee that hath not the Sonne hath not life." 1769, "He that hath not the Son of God hath not life."
Jude 25, 1611, "Power, now and ever." 1769, "Power, both now and ever."
Jesus Christ is the Logos-Word. When we allow God to conform us to His image, everything He is, we are. He writes His words on our hearts. We become the epistles. 2 Corinthians 3:2.
Just as Holy men of God spoke the first words, when we teach and preach, if we are a Holy Man of God, the words that come from our mouths are the word of God.
The Word of God is life--Living. It can't be destroyed by man. We shouldn't get tied up defending letters when it is living in us.
Wait wait wait... There are errors in the KJV!? What are you? An apostate who finds faults with the inspired Word of God!?
I agree with paragraphs 1&3 but I do not think we can equate modern preachers with the men who wrote Scripture as stated in paragraph #2.