Is there a role for Pastors in politics?

Tarheel Baptist said:
rsc2a said:
In the same manner:

It's obvious, when you contrast the RNC (and the conservative) stance on many of these issues with scripture, who the preferred candidate might be....

Political issues that are political issues are the point here...the hot button issues in our culture don't seem to agree with your statement. Although I have voted for quite a few democrats in my lifetime, by and large the official stance of the progressive a.k.a. Democratic Party don't draw me to their cause.
Unless baby killing turns you on politically....

Like the indiscriminate killing of Afganis and Iraqis for the sake of empire? Or maybe you mean capitalism without a conscience? Or wholesale environmental destruction for the sake of industry? Or were you referring the idea where we ship 17-yr olds across the border even though they've been here since they were 2?  One which of these hot button issues listed above does the Republican platform line up with Scripture?
 
rsc2a said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
rsc2a said:
In the same manner:

It's obvious, when you contrast the RNC (and the conservative) stance on many of these issues with scripture, who the preferred candidate might be....

Political issues that are political issues are the point here...the hot button issues in our culture don't seem to agree with your statement. Although I have voted for quite a few democrats in my lifetime, by and large the official stance of the progressive a.k.a. Democratic Party don't draw me to their cause.
Unless baby killing turns you on politically....

Like the indiscriminate killing of Afganis and Iraqis for the sake of empire? Or maybe you mean capitalism without a conscience? Or wholesale environmental destruction for the sake of industry? Or were you referring the idea where we ship 17-yr olds across the border even though they've been here since they were 2?  One which of these hot button issues listed above does the Republican platform line up with Scripture?

I agree that Republicans are also unsatisfactory, even though I often have to vote for them for lack of a better option. That's why I'm a Libertarian, and why I also work with the Republican Liberty Caucus to try to improve the GOP.
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
I know there are people in our congregation who voted for Obummer at least the first time he ran, maybe some voted for him twice. As a Pastor I try to be even handed when dealing with these politically charged issues, but don't shy away from them. We also register voters in our lobby during election season and have given out 'voter guides' based on a candidate's stand on some of these issues.

It's obvious, when you contrast Obama's (and the liberal) stance on many of these issues with scripture, who the preferred candidate might be....

Yes, I think your church is too political for me, but I already wouldn't join based on your theology and traditions being too conservative. (I might still visit if I ever get out there.  :-* )

But I also didn't vote for Obama either time. I voted Libertarian both times, since my state is so blue that voting Republican would have been just as much a futile protest vote. If either McCain or Romney had had a reasonable shot at carrying my state, I probably would've voted for them, because I believed Obama's very liberal Senate voting record rather than his pleasant, inclusive sounding rhetoric.
 
rsc2a said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
rsc2a said:
In the same manner:

It's obvious, when you contrast the RNC (and the conservative) stance on many of these issues with scripture, who the preferred candidate might be....

Political issues that are political issues are the point here...the hot button issues in our culture don't seem to agree with your statement. Although I have voted for quite a few democrats in my lifetime, by and large the official stance of the progressive a.k.a. Democratic Party don't draw me to their cause.
Unless baby killing turns you on politically....

Like the indiscriminate killing of Afganis and Iraqis for the sake of empire? Or maybe you mean capitalism without a conscience? Or wholesale environmental destruction for the sake of industry? Or were you referring the idea where we ship 17-yr olds across the border even though they've been here since they were 2?  One which of these hot button issues listed above does the Republican platform line up with Scripture?

None of the above are advocated in the Republican platform.
Abortion and Gay advocacy are planks in the Democratic Platform.
Not to mention the shared poverty, unemployment and government dependency their policies produce.


I edit to say..."Power to the people"!
Occupy Wallstreet!
Death to evilllll capitalism!
;)
 
Back to what prompted the OP.

My friend has decided to run for Senate in 2014.
He plans to take a leave of absence from his church, with the support of the church leadership and church family as a whole.
 
Izdaari said:
christundivided said:
You know enough about what I written here.... to know that I believe in the nuisance of thought.

The facts against SSM are overwhelming. I know you will not debate it and that's really the end of the matter. You don't know...... so nobody really knows.

The "nuisance of thought"? Now that's a good one!  :P

Kinda ties in what Rand said about volitional consciousness.  8)

Freudian slip?
 
christundivided said:
FSSL said:
The IRS is not known to have a heavy hand on this.

I don't think the IRS would ever win a battle over the issue.

I am not so sure that Indianapolis Baptist Temple, or its Pastor Emeritus, Greg Dixon, would agree with this. 
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
rsc2a said:
Tarheel Baptist said:
rsc2a said:
In the same manner:

It's obvious, when you contrast the RNC (and the conservative) stance on many of these issues with scripture, who the preferred candidate might be....

Political issues that are political issues are the point here...the hot button issues in our culture don't seem to agree with your statement. Although I have voted for quite a few democrats in my lifetime, by and large the official stance of the progressive a.k.a. Democratic Party don't draw me to their cause.
Unless baby killing turns you on politically....

Like the indiscriminate killing of Afganis and Iraqis for the sake of empire? Or maybe you mean capitalism without a conscience? Or wholesale environmental destruction for the sake of industry? Or were you referring the idea where we ship 17-yr olds across the border even though they've been here since they were 2?  One which of these hot button issues listed above does the Republican platform line up with Scripture?

None of the above are advocated in the Republican platform.

I'm not so much concerned with what's on their platform. I'm much more concerned with what actually happens as a result of their policy proposals (and eventual laws).

[quote author=Tarheel Baptist]Abortion and Gay advocacy are planks in the Democratic Platform.
Not to mention the shared poverty, unemployment and government dependency their policies produce.[/quote]

Yes. They are pretty terrible too.


[quote author=Tarheel Baptist]I edit to say..."Power to the people"![/quote]

Ideally.

[quote author=Tarheel Baptist]Occupy Wallstreet![/quote]

Not so much.

[quote author=Tarheel Baptist]Death to evilllll capitalism!
;)[/quote]

In the extremes. From a more moderate perspective, it's no worse than any other economic system and better than many.
 
There's definitely a role for pastors in politics.  They can shovel up the feces that Obama spews at every speech.
 
Tarheel Baptist said:
Back to what prompted the OP.

My friend has decided to run for Senate in 2014.
He plans to take a leave of absence from his church, with the support of the church leadership and church family as a whole.

That's cool. Like I said, pastors are citizens and have every right to run for office. They might even be better than the clowns they replace.  8)
 
PappaBear said:
Izdaari said:
christundivided said:
You know enough about what I written here.... to know that I believe in the nuisance of thought.

The facts against SSM are overwhelming. I know you will not debate it and that's really the end of the matter. You don't know...... so nobody really knows.

The "nuisance of thought"? Now that's a good one!  :P

Kinda ties in what Rand said about volitional consciousness.  8)

Freudian slip?

Hmm, could be. ;)
 
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