"I've studied nearly 5000 Near Death Experiences"


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12 years ago, I died, twice. My heart was not beating for over 5 minutes the first time, and 2 minutes the second time. No tunnel. No white thing. No floating. Nothing. When God decides that you are dead and not going to be revived, you go to judgment. That is what Scripture says, and what I firmly believe.

It is appointed to man once to die, then the judgment.

If you die without Christ, you end up in eternal punishment. No peace.
 
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12 years ago, I died, twice. My heart was not beating for over 5 minutes the first time, and 2 minutes the second time. No tunnel. No white thing. No floating. Nothing. When God decides that you are dead and not going to be revived, you go to judgment. That is what Scripture says, and what I firmly believe.

It is appointed to man once to die, then the judgment.

If you die without Christ, you end up in eternal punishment. No peace.

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Are you saying that death doesn't come until you can't be revived and since you were revived that,
those 5 minutes - you weren't really dead? Just sort of in a holding area?
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Are you saying that death doesn't come until you can't be revived and since you were revived that,
those 5 minutes - you weren't really dead? Just sort of in a holding area?
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that;s how those in the world of emergency medical services see it...... and many alive today are thankful they do not cease their efforts to revive someone until they know for certainty that threshhold has been crossed....
 
Yeah, when I read that was when my scientist mind felt like this doctor’s research had some holes and bias built into it.
that;s the problem with researchers who only examine a thing from a distance and usually through what someone else wrote.... . i know people who have been first hand witness to hundreds of near death experiences... they were all too occupied with rescue and resuscitation efforts to wonder... or worry... whether not the victim was at peace or not......

i have had 2 near death experiences myself... both required heavy blood transfusions and emergency surgery to adress ..... and both times my mind ran through thousands of thoughts and images that made no sense.... but what i remember feeling most was cold... .not peace.....

and i was witness to my natural sisters actual death experience... ..she died screaming while being stabbed to death and eviscerated... . i doubt any researcher witnessing that would have been able to make scientific observations... ...they probably would have been like me.... also screaming... huddled in a corner.... and praying her attacker didn;t turn his attention on me...
 
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Are you saying that death doesn't come until you can't be revived and since you were revived that,
those 5 minutes - you weren't really dead? Just sort of in a holding area?
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I'm saying that the word of God says we are appointed once to death. Not twice. SO, it only happens once, so maybe it is as you explain it. I just know that my heart stopped beating, and I had damage to my heart and my brain which was without oxygen for some time.

So, I guess, yes. Sorry I can't be more specific. I don't remember it. I was unconscious.
 
I have had a couple of them, or more...
Two pretty serious car accidents.
One time when an engine cut out of the DC 3 I was traveling on.
 
I have had a couple of them, or more...
Two pretty serious car accidents.
One time when an engine cut out of the DC 3 I was traveling on.
Most Airlines stopped using DC3 by 1970 and the US Navy and US Marines retired their C47's (military DC3s) by the late 1970s.

Either you are old as the hills or flew Cargo in the DC3 or likely both???
 
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Most Airlines stopped using DC3 by 1970 and the US Navy and US Marines retired their C117 (military DC3s) by the late 1970s.

Either you are old as the hills or flew Cargo in the DC3 or likely both???
Airlines in the Caribbean were using the DC-3 into the late 70's, maybe early 80's. We flew on one from St. Thomas to Puerto Rico.
I'm thinking the airline was called "PrinAir" or something like that. (There was another airline, it may have been that one, not sure...I was like 12 at the time...)
I remember being on the tarmac, walking past these sleek looking turbo props, thinking, Oh boy, aren't these cool...Can't wait to fly on one of these!
But we kept walking until we got to the DC-3 and my enthusiasm was quashed.
We boarded and took off.
While in flight, both of the PW's were leaking oil but the pilot feathered the props on one of them until it stood completely still!
I was horrified!
My dad (former Air Force) said: Son, if there's ever a twin engine aircraft you want to be on while flying with only one engine, this is it...
Then, the pilot, in his deep Mexican accent, came over the intercom and said: Don't worry folks, Dees happen all the time.
Well, when we got to PR, all of the nice firetrucks were out to greet us along the side of the runway.
So, I got to fly on a piece of history.
And it sure was memorable.
 
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Airlines in the Caribbean were using the DC-3 into the late 70's, maybe early 80's. We flew on one from St. Thomas to Puerto Rico.
I'm thinking the airline was called "PrinAir" or something like that. (There was another airline, it may have been that one, not sure...I was like 12 at the time...)
I remember being on the tarmac, walking past these sleek looking turbo props, thinking, Oh boy, aren't these cool...Can't wait to fly on one of these!
But we kept walking until we got to the DC-3 and my enthusiasm was quashed.
We boarded and took off.
While in flight, both of the PW's were leaking oil but the pilot feathered the props on one of them until it stood completely still!
I was horrified!
My dad (former Air Force) said: Son, if there's ever a twin engine aircraft you want to be on while flying with only one engine, this is it...
Then, the pilot, in his deep Mexican accent, came over the intercom and said: Don't worry folks, Dees happen all the time.
Well, when we got to PR, all of the nice firetrucks were out to greet us along the side of the runway.
So, I got to fly on a piece of history.
And it sure was memorable.
GREAT STORY STARLIFTER

The US Military used C47 Gooney Bird (military DC3) from WW2 into the 70's for transport and for paratroopers. In my humble opinion it was one of the greatest planes ever built for it's utility and duribility. It was slowly replaced but the 4 engine Douglas C-54 Skymasters and later by the much larger C124 globemaster.

The C47 was flown for around 35 years, the A10 has been used by the US Airforce for over 50 years and the B52 has been used for almost 70 years.
 
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