John 3:16

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God loved the world so much that he gave his one and only Son so that whoever believes in him may not be lost, but have eternal life.
 
Tim said:
1 Peter 2:17 - Respect everyone, and love your Christian brothers and sisters. Fear God, and respect the king.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JNjLo9u_SA

Obama may act like a king, but according to our constitutional republic, he is a public servant who works for us, and owes us respect. 

 
T-Bone said:
He's not the king.

Are you saying it is okay to be rude toward President Obama?
 
Tim said:
T-Bone said:
He's not the king.

Are you saying it is okay to be rude toward President Obama?

Did you read that in my reply?  He is not the king...simple fact.  I " give honor to whom honor is due"-Romans 13:7.  Obama is not beyond be questioned, challenged or held to the Constitution.  The Executive Branch is to be no more powerful than the Legislative Branch or the Judicial Branch...three separated but equal branches of our government.  The Constitution is the final authority not a single person or a group of persons.
 
The greatest way to honor an evil king is to pray for him.
 
FSSL said:
The greatest way to honor an evil king is to pray for him.

I pray for him every day.  But he's still alive and kicking. 





;)
 
Actually,  the king wasn't killing Christians at the time,  but I believe your point still stands.
 
Tim said:
T-Bone said:
Tim said:
T-Bone said:
He's not the king.

Are you saying it is okay to be rude toward President Obama?

Did you read that in my reply?  He is not the king...simple fact.  I " give honor to whom honor is due"-Romans 13:7.  Obama is not beyond be questioned, challenged or held to the Constitution.  The Executive Branch is to be no more powerful than the Legislative Branch or the Judicial Branch...three separated but equal branches of our government.  The Constitution is the final authority not a single person or a group of persons.

1 Peter 2:17 simply says, "Show proper respect to everyone,"

It most likely ends with "king" because at the time their leader was killing Christians - and the point was reinforced to respect EVERYONE including this murderer of Christians.

And your statement  does not change my response.
 
The Rogue Tomato said:
I pray for him every day.  But he's still alive and kicking.

Faith, as a mustard seed, can move mountains :D
 
aleshanee said:

i respect the office of the president......  as should every american......

I can respect the office of the president.  After all, he's usually on vacation or golfing, so he rarely spends any time in it. 

 
aleshanee said:
Tim said:
1 Peter 2:17 - Respect everyone, and love your Christian brothers and sisters. Fear God, and respect the king.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JNjLo9u_SA

i think it;s funny how people who disagree with any particular president and usually have no problem saying so... suddenly pull the "we should respect the king" card whenever said president does something they agree with..... even though that something is against the will of an overwhelming majority....

but whether you agree with the issue he is pushing at the moment or not...... what this president has done in the last few days is unconstitutional........ and while it may definitely warrant our prayers...... it does not deserve our respect..... 

a president is elected by the people to serve the people....... but a president that takes draconian measures to circumvent the senate and congress... members of government who are also duly elected by the people....... then that president has attempted to set himself up as a dictator... or crown himself king of you will....  and he has moved against the people he was sworn to serve.......... and in the case of this president he has done it for no other reason than to leave himself a bigger legacy and a greater footnote in the history books before he leaves office next year........... 

i respect the office of the president......  as should every american...... but in the last few days the american who has publicly shown the most disrespect for the office of president is the president himself......

 
Spot on!
 
The Rogue Tomato said:
aleshanee said:

i respect the office of the president......  as should every american......

I can respect the office of the president.  After all, he's usually on vacation or golfing, so he rarely spends any time in it.

Q: Is it true that George W. Bush took more vacation days than Barack Obama?

A: Yes. Before his two-week trip to Martha?s Vineyard in August, Obama?s count was 125 full or partial days and Bush?s total at the same point in his presidency was 407.

FULL ANSWER

Our inbox is chock full of questions about who took more vacation days, Obama or Bush. (The short answer: Bush. The long answer: There?s no such thing as a true non-working vacation for the president.)

Presidential Vacations

There are relevant and legitimate things for which to criticize Obama but vacation days is not one of them.
 
Smellin Coffee said:
The Rogue Tomato said:
aleshanee said:

i respect the office of the president......  as should every american......

I can respect the office of the president.  After all, he's usually on vacation or golfing, so he rarely spends any time in it.

Q: Is it true that George W. Bush took more vacation days than Barack Obama?

A: Yes. Before his two-week trip to Martha?s Vineyard in August, Obama?s count was 125 full or partial days and Bush?s total at the same point in his presidency was 407.

FULL ANSWER

Our inbox is chock full of questions about who took more vacation days, Obama or Bush. (The short answer: Bush. The long answer: There?s no such thing as a true non-working vacation for the president.)

Presidential Vacations

There are relevant and legitimate things for which to criticize Obama but vacation days is not one of them.

I'm sure you know this but Bush hasn't been the president for some years now.

Why do we compare politicians that we like to the lowest common denominator, and say, see he's not so bad, look at that guy.
 
Smellin Coffee said:
Presidential Vacations

There are relevant and legitimate things for which to criticize Obama but vacation days is not one of them.

Obama is on vacation even when he's not on vacation.  He skips intelligence briefings, and cuts short his obligations to run off to a fundraiser, party, or golf at every opportunity, even immediately after a tragedy. 
 
The Rogue Tomato said:
Smellin Coffee said:
Presidential Vacations

There are relevant and legitimate things for which to criticize Obama but vacation days is not one of them.

Obama is on vacation even when he's not on vacation.  He skips intelligence briefings, and cuts short his obligations to run off to a fundraiser, party, or golf at every opportunity, even immediately after a tragedy.

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Tim said:
1 Peter 2:17 - Respect everyone, and love your Christian brothers and sisters. Fear God, and respect the king.

Amen.

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The Rogue Tomato said:
aleshanee said:

i respect the office of the president......  as should every american......

I can respect the office of the president.  After all, he's usually on vacation or golfing, so he rarely spends any time in it.

Gosh! I miss Mater. I wonder what he thinks about Trump as he goes on yet ANOTHER golfing vacation!
 
Smellin Coffee said:
Gosh! I miss Mater. I wonder what he thinks about Trump as he goes on yet ANOTHER golfing vacation!

Gosh. I wonder if you think of anyone but Trump.
 
Tim said:
God loved the world so much that he gave his one and only Son so that whoever believes in him may not be lost, but have eternal life.

Getting back to the OP (I know, what a concept!), I am not pleased with this translation - whatever it comes from, primarily because of the phrase "one and only Son" - this seems to contradict John 1, in which the Bible declares that as many as receive Him are given the right to be the sons of God.  All believers are the children of God, and this is at odds with "one and only Son"... what makes Jesus unique is that He is the "only begotten of the Father."

A more minor point is the word "lost"; I don't know that "perish", which implies non-existence is better, but "lost" seems a bit weak.
 
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