Calling something a pandemic or epidemic means it meets certain criteria, the central of which is the infection rate. (Please don't confuse that with case count.)
611K compared to how many infected?
Just a Bad Flu Season After All?
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611K compared to how many infected?
Well you better get on over to the Journal of Infectious Diseases and let 'em know their wrong then.
"The sudden emergence and rapid global spread of a novel H1N1 influenza virus in early 2009 [1] has caused confusion about the meaning of the word “pandemic” and how to recognize pandemics when they occur. Any assumption that the term pandemic had an agreed-upon meaning was quickly undermined by debates and discussions about the term in the popular media and in scientific publications [2–5]. Uses of the term by official health agencies, scientists, and the media often seemed to be at odds. For example, some argued that a level of explosive transmissibility was sufficient to declare a pandemic, whereas others maintained that severity of infection should also be considered [2–5]"
"Even if there is no single accepted definition of the term pandemic, it may still be fruitful to consider diseases commonly said to be pandemic and to try to understand them better by examining similarities and differences among them."
What Is a Pandemic?
The sudden emergence and rapid global spread of a novel H1N1 influenza virus in early 2009 [1] has caused confusion about the meaning of the word “pandemic
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Well you better get on over to the Journal of Infectious Diseases and let 'em know their wrong then.
"The sudden emergence and rapid global spread of a novel H1N1 influenza virus in early 2009 [1] has caused confusion about the meaning of the word “pandemic” and how to recognize pandemics when they occur. Any assumption that the term pandemic had an agreed-upon meaning was quickly undermined by debates and discussions about the term in the popular media and in scientific publications [2–5]. Uses of the term by official health agencies, scientists, and the media often seemed to be at odds. For example, some argued that a level of explosive transmissibility was sufficient to declare a pandemic, whereas others maintained that severity of infection should also be considered [2–5]"
"Even if there is no single accepted definition of the term pandemic, it may still be fruitful to consider diseases commonly said to be pandemic and to try to understand them better by examining similarities and differences among them."
What Is a Pandemic?
The sudden emergence and rapid global spread of a novel H1N1 influenza virus in early 2009 [1] has caused confusion about the meaning of the word “pandemic
'The examples given above [which are the 'certain criteria' to which I alluded] suggest that the pandemic concept, as applied to important global events spanning many centuries, includes diseases of very different etiologies that exhibit a variety of epidemiologic features. There seems to be only 1 invariable common denominator: widespread geographic extension.'
So, basically, a pandemic is a bunch of epidemics spanning a wide geography.
Again, when is an epidemic over?
Again we could get bogged down with whose definition of epidemic we are going to use. I'll go along with you and play along in your Land of Make Believe that there is no epidemic. Than rather than be concerned about an epidemic we now have a viral outbreak covering most of the world with a trend of increasing cases and deaths in the US. No matter what you prefer to call it it certainly does not look like it's over.
LOL. You mean qualified and unqualified?
Sure since we are in your land of make believe let's pretend that King Friday declared your definition is the only qualified one.
Let's be honest about what I said. I said "if the death tally is accurate," (and you certainly cite it a lot) based on the consistent results of studies world wide of a 0.3% mortality rate, then one can accurately estimate that at least 70% of the U.S. population has been through the epidemic and we've reached herd immunity. And that's when an epidemic is over.
Case counts are irrelevant. The known cases, and especially the cases represented in your graph, are the tip of the iceberg of the number of actual infections.
You appear to think that covid can be irradicated, and that's when the epidemic will be over. Is that how flu epidemics are ended?
Add to the percentage of Americans infected that have achieved immunity, those who never developed an infection due to memory t-cells made by exposure to common cold corona viruses, and you're looking at an even larger percentage that are immune.
By any epidemiological measure, the epidemic is over.
By any epidemiological measure, the epidemic is over.
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Alright awesome job. You took care of this epidemic for us. Now that you solved that there is this outbreak that is worldwide and is trending upward in the number of American dying from it. Would you be opposed to a vaccine if it was just for an outbreak and not an epidemic?
Who said I was opposed to the vaccine?
Medical insanity, as described by an MD
When did the world become insane? What is the reason for it? Big Brother? Depopulation? Or people in love with control? I don't know and it's driving me nuts. But I've decided I'm tired of complaining about it to my friends and family...
'Now the latest, the delta variant, is surging because of the unvaccinated. Ignore the data from other countries that have very high vaccine rates but high spiking cases, and ignore the data from other countries that have low vaccine rates and almost no COVID. As a matter of fact, let's not even look at Sweden, which essentially didn't do lockdowns or masking, has a low vaccination rate, and has almost zero COVID.'