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It seems that people either love or hate Lebron James.  As a true sport's fan I did not like the big show put on by Labron, Wade, and Bosh when Labron went to Miami.  The verbally cocky attitude was a bit too much.  Since that time he has admitted that he should not have done it that way.  On the other hand I have to give him credit as he won 2 championships with the Heat.

I did like his decision to return to Cleveland.  His attitude was not cocky as he told them his goal was to bring them a championship.  During his first year Cleveland made it to the finals.  Two of Cleveland's starters (Irving and Love) were injured, yet they managed to win 2 games in the series.

This year's finals were epic.  Cleveland was down 3 games to 1 in the best of 7.  No team in NBA history has ever come back from this deficit.  Lebron's play in games 5, 6, and 7 was epic.  He averaged 35 points, 11 rebounds, and 9 assists.  He refused to let them lose.  He made big play after big play.

Like Lebron or not, you have to give it up for him in this series.  IMO he is one of the 5 best NBA players in history.
 
Not even considered a top ten player with so few seasons under his belt.

13 years in the league?

Plenty more superstars to choose from with far better careers.
 
Jim Jones said:
Not even considered a top ten player with so few seasons under his belt.

13 years in the league?

Plenty more superstars to choose from with far better careers.
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You've got to be kidding me.  Bird and Magic played 13 years.  Jordan played 15 years.  Check your stats and come back when you have your facts straight.
 
Jim Jones said:
Not even considered a top ten player with so few seasons under his belt.

13 years in the league?

Plenty more superstars to choose from with far better careers.
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So far, yes.

He may , after being around so many father figures and men who had fathers, be beginning to learn what Jordan knew:

When it's all on you, shoulder the burden and do it.

If so, the next 5 years will prove it.

So far, he has proved as unreliable as most bastards are.

earnestly contend

 
RAIDER said:
It seems that people either love or hate Lebron James.  As a true sport's fan I did not like the big show put on by Labron, Wade, and Bosh when Labron went to Miami.  The verbally cocky attitude was a bit too much.  Since that time he has admitted that he should not have done it that way.  On the other hand I have to give him credit as he won 2 championships with the Heat.

I did like his decision to return to Cleveland.  His attitude was not cocky as he told them his goal was to bring them a championship.  During his first year Cleveland made it to the finals.  Two of Cleveland's starters (Irving and Love) were injured, yet they managed to win 2 games in the series.

This year's finals were epic.  Cleveland was down 3 games to 1 in the best of 7.  No team in NBA history has ever come back from this deficit.  Lebron's play in games 5, 6, and 7 was epic.  He averaged 35 points, 11 rebounds, and 9 assists.  He refused to let them lose.  He made big play after big play.

Like Lebron or not, you have to give it up for him in this series.  IMO he is one of the 5 best NBA players in history.
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I think that he should change the spelling of his name to Labron like you did in the first paragraph.

While the 'e' may represent his ego, the 'a' is much more appropriate.
 
RAIDER said:
Jim Jones said:
Not even considered a top ten player with so few seasons under his belt.

13 years in the league?

Plenty more superstars to choose from with far better careers.
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You've got to be kidding me.  Bird and Magic played 13 years.  Jordan played 15 years.  Check your stats and come back when you have your facts straight.
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Exactly my point.

More than ten players exceeded LB stats in less than 13 years.

Check your stat kissing.
 
Jim Jones said:
Exactly my point.

More than ten players exceeded LB stats in less than 13 years.

Check your stat kissing.
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You have no point.  To which stats are you referring? 
 
                              Pts        FG%    3pt%    RB      Ast        Blk
Lebron                    26,833  .498    .340      7067    6815      773               
Bird                        21,791  .496    .376      8974    5695      755
Magic                      17,707  .520    .303      6559    10,141  374
MJ                          32,292  .497    .327      6672    5633      893
 
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                              Pts        FG%    3pt%    RB      Ast        Blk
Lebron                    26,833  .498    .340      7067    6815      773               
Bird                        21,791  .496    .376      8974    5695      755
Magic                      17,707  .520    .303      6559    10,141  374
MJ                          32,292  .497    .327      6672    5633      893
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Career stats of all NBA PLAYERS.

LB 11th in points

LB 18th in assists

LB NOT IN TOP 25 in blocked shots

LB NOT IN TOP 25 in 3 pointers

LB  16th in free throws

LB NOT IN TOP 25 in rebounds

LB 24th in steals

Great stats? Meh.

Not top ten.
 
Jim Jones said:
RAIDER said:
                              Pts        FG%    3pt%    RB      Ast        Blk
Lebron                    26,833  .498    .340      7067    6815      773               
Bird                        21,791  .496    .376      8974    5695      755
Magic                      17,707  .520    .303      6559    10,141  374
MJ                          32,292  .497    .327      6672    5633      893
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Career stats of all NBA PLAYERS.

LB 11th in points

LB 18th in assists

LB NOT IN TOP 25 in blocked shots

LB NOT IN TOP 25 in 3 pointers

LB  16th in free throws

LB NOT IN TOP 25 in rebounds

LB 24th in steals

Great stats? Meh.

Not top ten.
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You have to look at the complete body of work.  What player can you name that is in the top 10 in all your 7 stat choices??????
 
RAIDER said:
Jim Jones said:
RAIDER said:
                              Pts        FG%    3pt%    RB      Ast        Blk
Lebron                    26,833  .498    .340      7067    6815      773               
Bird                        21,791  .496    .376      8974    5695      755
Magic                      17,707  .520    .303      6559    10,141  374
MJ                          32,292  .497    .327      6672    5633      893
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Career stats of all NBA PLAYERS.

LB 11th in points

LB 18th in assists

LB NOT IN TOP 25 in blocked shots

LB NOT IN TOP 25 in 3 pointers

LB  16th in free throws

LB NOT IN TOP 25 in rebounds

LB 24th in steals

Great stats? Meh.

Not top ten.
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You have to look at the complete body of work.  What player can you name that is in the top 10 in all your 7 stat choices??????
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What stats am I missing?

Dribbles?

Jabar
Chamberlain
Olajuwon
Stockton
Parish
Malone
Johnson
MJ
Duncan
Robertson
Russell
Bryant
 
And BTW, MJ is considered by most experts to be the greatest player ever.  MJ has more points and blocks than Lebron.  Their FG% is about the same.  Lebron has a better 3pt%, and more rebounds and assists.  It's not just a couple of stats.  It is the complete body of work.  I'm saying (along with most experts) that Lebron is in the top 5 of all time.
 
Jim Jones said:
What stats am I missing?

Dribbles?

Jabar
Chamberlain
Olajuwon
Stockton
Parish
Malone
Johnson
MJ
Duncan
Robertson


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Do you even watch basketball?  Olajuwon, Stockton, Parish, and Malone wouldn't have a chance at making the top 5.  Maybe not the top 10. 
 
There are 47 players with more rings than LJ.

ALL PLAYED AS MANY SEASONS.
 
Just to teach you a little something - a center or a forward would naturally have more rebounds and blocked shots than a guard.  A center would not have as many 3 pointers as a guard.  A center and forward would not have as many assists as a guard.  It is rare to have a player that can play all three positions and excels in many of the stats from each position.  Lebron is that guy.
 
Jim Jones said:
There are 47 players with more rings than LJ.

ALL PLAYED AS MANY SEASONS.
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Is that is the defining stat for being in the top 5?
 
Sam Jones
John Havlicek
KC Jones

All surpass the small two team player of LJ.


30 plus rings
 
Jim Jones said:
Sam Jones
John Havlicek
KC Jones

All surpass the small two team player of LJ.


30 plus rings
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I'm a Boston Celtic fan so I am aware of the championships.  Bill Russel is the only player from these teams that could be used in the same sentence as Lebron.
 
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