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Jim Jones said:LJ has won his last ring.
Unless he goes to LA.
I'm not a LJ fan, but I can put my personal likes and dislikes aside and admire greatness in a sport.
Jim Jones said:LJ has won his last ring.
Unless he goes to LA.
RAIDER said:Jim Jones said:LJ has won his last ring.
Unless he goes to LA.
I'm not a LJ fan, but I can put my personal likes and dislikes aside and admire greatness in a sport.
Teri in NC said:RAIDER said:Jim Jones said:LJ has won his last ring.
Unless he goes to LA.
I'm not a LJ fan, but I can put my personal likes and dislikes aside and admire greatness in a sport.
For me.....and since you texted me begging for my opinion....his arrogance is greater than his talent and many people just can't see past that.
It is what it is.
Darkwing Duck said:I'm not a big fan of Lebron but he's definitely one of the top 5 greatest NBA players ever. I even think you can make an argument that he is 2nd behind Jordan.
RAIDER said:Teri in NC said:RAIDER said:Jim Jones said:LJ has won his last ring.
Unless he goes to LA.
I'm not a LJ fan, but I can put my personal likes and dislikes aside and admire greatness in a sport.
For me.....and since you texted me begging for my opinion....his arrogance is greater than his talent and many people just can't see past that.
It is what it is.
This is where a true sports fan has to put the personality preferences aside. No one was more arrogant than Muhammad Ali. He is also a draft dodger. He was easy to dislike. Now when people stand back and look at his boxing skills many call him the greatest of all time. It's all about what went on between the ropes. Look at Allen Iverson. he was a mouthy, cocky punk with a lousy attitude. His talent on the court was amazing. He is one of the greatest guards of all time. True sports fans may not like the personalities of certain players, but they know something special when they see it.
Teri in NC said:RAIDER said:Teri in NC said:RAIDER said:Jim Jones said:LJ has won his last ring.
Unless he goes to LA.
I'm not a LJ fan, but I can put my personal likes and dislikes aside and admire greatness in a sport.
For me.....and since you texted me begging for my opinion....his arrogance is greater than his talent and many people just can't see past that.
It is what it is.
This is where a true sports fan has to put the personality preferences aside. No one was more arrogant than Muhammad Ali. He is also a draft dodger. He was easy to dislike. Now when people stand back and look at his boxing skills many call him the greatest of all time. It's all about what went on between the ropes. Look at Allen Iverson. he was a mouthy, cocky punk with a lousy attitude. His talent on the court was amazing. He is one of the greatest guards of all time. True sports fans may not like the personalities of certain players, but they know something special when they see it.
I can't separate the two and I won't.
Binaca Chugger said:I was in Akron when LeBron James was in high school. We watched a class act work and work and work and win. He never was about himself, always about his teammates, refusing to do an interview without his entire team. Even when he went to the NBA, he hired his old teammates to give them a payday for their help in making him great.
In Cleveland, LJ learned that the NBA is a business and people will lie to you to get more for them. When Boozer left the Cavs, it hurt LJ deeply. The two had a friendship and a commitment to each other that Boozer just walked away from. LJ had to learn how to win and couldn't do it in Cleveland.
His epic "going to south beach" show was a catastrophic mistake. He has admitted such and apologized. However, one understands why he went. Opportunity to play with his friends, whom he trusted. Opportunity to play for one of the great psychologists in the game (Phil Jackson) who knew how to win. LeBron learned, and won.
Coming back to Cleveland was a gargantuan move that no one believed. He humbled himself, apologized to the city and committed to fixing what was wrong. He single handedly changed not just a team, but an economy. We must also mention that LeBron had to coach the team for the first year and a half that he was there (seriously, nobody thought Blatt was actually coaching).
Add to this, that the media hates LeBron. Everything he does is criticized. Every action is mocked. He didn't answer his accusers until he won. Even then, he just asked them to look at the scoreboard. "Hey, haters. You said I couldn't. I did." The media is still in a frenzy over Steph Curry and what a darling he is while tearing down LeBron James for holding the trophy to high, or not making a final shot, or sending out a tweet that he won.
Is LeBron one of the all time greats? Yes.
Is he the greatest? Impossible to tell. The game has changed through the generations, so that stats cannot be the final determining factor.
Teri in NC said:RAIDER said:Teri in NC said:RAIDER said:Jim Jones said:LJ has won his last ring.
Unless he goes to LA.
I'm not a LJ fan, but I can put my personal likes and dislikes aside and admire greatness in a sport.
For me.....and since you texted me begging for my opinion....his arrogance is greater than his talent and many people just can't see past that.
It is what it is.
This is where a true sports fan has to put the personality preferences aside. No one was more arrogant than Muhammad Ali. He is also a draft dodger. He was easy to dislike. Now when people stand back and look at his boxing skills many call him the greatest of all time. It's all about what went on between the ropes. Look at Allen Iverson. he was a mouthy, cocky punk with a lousy attitude. His talent on the court was amazing. He is one of the greatest guards of all time. True sports fans may not like the personalities of certain players, but they know something special when they see it.
I can't separate the two and I won't.
RAIDER said:Binaca Chugger said:I was in Akron when LeBron James was in high school. We watched a class act work and work and work and win. He never was about himself, always about his teammates, refusing to do an interview without his entire team. Even when he went to the NBA, he hired his old teammates to give them a payday for their help in making him great.
In Cleveland, LJ learned that the NBA is a business and people will lie to you to get more for them. When Boozer left the Cavs, it hurt LJ deeply. The two had a friendship and a commitment to each other that Boozer just walked away from. LJ had to learn how to win and couldn't do it in Cleveland.
His epic "going to south beach" show was a catastrophic mistake. He has admitted such and apologized. However, one understands why he went. Opportunity to play with his friends, whom he trusted. Opportunity to play for one of the great psychologists in the game (Phil Jackson) who knew how to win. LeBron learned, and won.
Coming back to Cleveland was a gargantuan move that no one believed. He humbled himself, apologized to the city and committed to fixing what was wrong. He single handedly changed not just a team, but an economy. We must also mention that LeBron had to coach the team for the first year and a half that he was there (seriously, nobody thought Blatt was actually coaching).
Add to this, that the media hates LeBron. Everything he does is criticized. Every action is mocked. He didn't answer his accusers until he won. Even then, he just asked them to look at the scoreboard. "Hey, haters. You said I couldn't. I did." The media is still in a frenzy over Steph Curry and what a darling he is while tearing down LeBron James for holding the trophy to high, or not making a final shot, or sending out a tweet that he won.
Is LeBron one of the all time greats? Yes.
Is he the greatest? Impossible to tell. The game has changed through the generations, so that stats cannot be the final determining factor.
I agree with every word. Nicely done!
Smellin Coffee said:RAIDER said:Binaca Chugger said:I was in Akron when LeBron James was in high school. We watched a class act work and work and work and win. He never was about himself, always about his teammates, refusing to do an interview without his entire team. Even when he went to the NBA, he hired his old teammates to give them a payday for their help in making him great.
In Cleveland, LJ learned that the NBA is a business and people will lie to you to get more for them. When Boozer left the Cavs, it hurt LJ deeply. The two had a friendship and a commitment to each other that Boozer just walked away from. LJ had to learn how to win and couldn't do it in Cleveland.
His epic "going to south beach" show was a catastrophic mistake. He has admitted such and apologized. However, one understands why he went. Opportunity to play with his friends, whom he trusted. Opportunity to play for one of the great psychologists in the game (Phil Jackson) who knew how to win. LeBron learned, and won.
Coming back to Cleveland was a gargantuan move that no one believed. He humbled himself, apologized to the city and committed to fixing what was wrong. He single handedly changed not just a team, but an economy. We must also mention that LeBron had to coach the team for the first year and a half that he was there (seriously, nobody thought Blatt was actually coaching).
Add to this, that the media hates LeBron. Everything he does is criticized. Every action is mocked. He didn't answer his accusers until he won. Even then, he just asked them to look at the scoreboard. "Hey, haters. You said I couldn't. I did." The media is still in a frenzy over Steph Curry and what a darling he is while tearing down LeBron James for holding the trophy to high, or not making a final shot, or sending out a tweet that he won.
Is LeBron one of the all time greats? Yes.
Is he the greatest? Impossible to tell. The game has changed through the generations, so that stats cannot be the final determining factor.
I agree with every word. Nicely done!
Every word? Even though Phil Jackson had nothing to do with coaching the Heat?
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Smellin Coffee said:RAIDER said:Binaca Chugger said:I was in Akron when LeBron James was in high school. We watched a class act work and work and work and win. He never was about himself, always about his teammates, refusing to do an interview without his entire team. Even when he went to the NBA, he hired his old teammates to give them a payday for their help in making him great.
In Cleveland, LJ learned that the NBA is a business and people will lie to you to get more for them. When Boozer left the Cavs, it hurt LJ deeply. The two had a friendship and a commitment to each other that Boozer just walked away from. LJ had to learn how to win and couldn't do it in Cleveland.
His epic "going to south beach" show was a catastrophic mistake. He has admitted such and apologized. However, one understands why he went. Opportunity to play with his friends, whom he trusted. Opportunity to play for one of the great psychologists in the game (Phil Jackson) who knew how to win. LeBron learned, and won.
Coming back to Cleveland was a gargantuan move that no one believed. He humbled himself, apologized to the city and committed to fixing what was wrong. He single handedly changed not just a team, but an economy. We must also mention that LeBron had to coach the team for the first year and a half that he was there (seriously, nobody thought Blatt was actually coaching).
Add to this, that the media hates LeBron. Everything he does is criticized. Every action is mocked. He didn't answer his accusers until he won. Even then, he just asked them to look at the scoreboard. "Hey, haters. You said I couldn't. I did." The media is still in a frenzy over Steph Curry and what a darling he is while tearing down LeBron James for holding the trophy to high, or not making a final shot, or sending out a tweet that he won.
Is LeBron one of the all time greats? Yes.
Is he the greatest? Impossible to tell. The game has changed through the generations, so that stats cannot be the final determining factor.
I agree with every word. Nicely done!
Every word? Even though Phil Jackson had nothing to do with coaching the Heat?
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Binaca Chugger said:Smellin Coffee said:RAIDER said:Binaca Chugger said:I was in Akron when LeBron James was in high school. We watched a class act work and work and work and win. He never was about himself, always about his teammates, refusing to do an interview without his entire team. Even when he went to the NBA, he hired his old teammates to give them a payday for their help in making him great.
In Cleveland, LJ learned that the NBA is a business and people will lie to you to get more for them. When Boozer left the Cavs, it hurt LJ deeply. The two had a friendship and a commitment to each other that Boozer just walked away from. LJ had to learn how to win and couldn't do it in Cleveland.
His epic "going to south beach" show was a catastrophic mistake. He has admitted such and apologized. However, one understands why he went. Opportunity to play with his friends, whom he trusted. Opportunity to play for one of the great psychologists in the game (Phil Jackson) who knew how to win. LeBron learned, and won.
Coming back to Cleveland was a gargantuan move that no one believed. He humbled himself, apologized to the city and committed to fixing what was wrong. He single handedly changed not just a team, but an economy. We must also mention that LeBron had to coach the team for the first year and a half that he was there (seriously, nobody thought Blatt was actually coaching).
Add to this, that the media hates LeBron. Everything he does is criticized. Every action is mocked. He didn't answer his accusers until he won. Even then, he just asked them to look at the scoreboard. "Hey, haters. You said I couldn't. I did." The media is still in a frenzy over Steph Curry and what a darling he is while tearing down LeBron James for holding the trophy to high, or not making a final shot, or sending out a tweet that he won.
Is LeBron one of the all time greats? Yes.
Is he the greatest? Impossible to tell. The game has changed through the generations, so that stats cannot be the final determining factor.
I agree with every word. Nicely done!
Every word? Even though Phil Jackson had nothing to do with coaching the Heat?
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C'mon. Spoelstra coaching that team in his first year without any help from Phil? Really? Everyone knows that Phil had his imprint on that team and helped provide the group with its needed motivation and team building. LeBron learned how to win from Phil, not Erik.
RAIDER said:Smellin Coffee said:RAIDER said:Binaca Chugger said:I was in Akron when LeBron James was in high school. We watched a class act work and work and work and win. He never was about himself, always about his teammates, refusing to do an interview without his entire team. Even when he went to the NBA, he hired his old teammates to give them a payday for their help in making him great.
In Cleveland, LJ learned that the NBA is a business and people will lie to you to get more for them. When Boozer left the Cavs, it hurt LJ deeply. The two had a friendship and a commitment to each other that Boozer just walked away from. LJ had to learn how to win and couldn't do it in Cleveland.
His epic "going to south beach" show was a catastrophic mistake. He has admitted such and apologized. However, one understands why he went. Opportunity to play with his friends, whom he trusted. Opportunity to play for one of the great psychologists in the game (Phil Jackson) who knew how to win. LeBron learned, and won.
Coming back to Cleveland was a gargantuan move that no one believed. He humbled himself, apologized to the city and committed to fixing what was wrong. He single handedly changed not just a team, but an economy. We must also mention that LeBron had to coach the team for the first year and a half that he was there (seriously, nobody thought Blatt was actually coaching).
Add to this, that the media hates LeBron. Everything he does is criticized. Every action is mocked. He didn't answer his accusers until he won. Even then, he just asked them to look at the scoreboard. "Hey, haters. You said I couldn't. I did." The media is still in a frenzy over Steph Curry and what a darling he is while tearing down LeBron James for holding the trophy to high, or not making a final shot, or sending out a tweet that he won.
Is LeBron one of the all time greats? Yes.
Is he the greatest? Impossible to tell. The game has changed through the generations, so that stats cannot be the final determining factor.
I agree with every word. Nicely done!
Every word? Even though Phil Jackson had nothing to do with coaching the Heat?
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I knew the Hacker meant Pat Riley.![]()
Binaca Chugger said:RAIDER said:Smellin Coffee said:RAIDER said:Binaca Chugger said:I was in Akron when LeBron James was in high school. We watched a class act work and work and work and win. He never was about himself, always about his teammates, refusing to do an interview without his entire team. Even when he went to the NBA, he hired his old teammates to give them a payday for their help in making him great.
In Cleveland, LJ learned that the NBA is a business and people will lie to you to get more for them. When Boozer left the Cavs, it hurt LJ deeply. The two had a friendship and a commitment to each other that Boozer just walked away from. LJ had to learn how to win and couldn't do it in Cleveland.
His epic "going to south beach" show was a catastrophic mistake. He has admitted such and apologized. However, one understands why he went. Opportunity to play with his friends, whom he trusted. Opportunity to play for one of the great psychologists in the game (Phil Jackson) who knew how to win. LeBron learned, and won.
Coming back to Cleveland was a gargantuan move that no one believed. He humbled himself, apologized to the city and committed to fixing what was wrong. He single handedly changed not just a team, but an economy. We must also mention that LeBron had to coach the team for the first year and a half that he was there (seriously, nobody thought Blatt was actually coaching).
Add to this, that the media hates LeBron. Everything he does is criticized. Every action is mocked. He didn't answer his accusers until he won. Even then, he just asked them to look at the scoreboard. "Hey, haters. You said I couldn't. I did." The media is still in a frenzy over Steph Curry and what a darling he is while tearing down LeBron James for holding the trophy to high, or not making a final shot, or sending out a tweet that he won.
Is LeBron one of the all time greats? Yes.
Is he the greatest? Impossible to tell. The game has changed through the generations, so that stats cannot be the final determining factor.
I agree with every word. Nicely done!
Every word? Even though Phil Jackson had nothing to do with coaching the Heat?
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I knew the Hacker meant Pat Riley.![]()
Yes, Pat Riley was there. But, wasn't Phil in the background somewhere working with the team over the shoulder of Spoelstra?
Binaca Chugger said:RAIDER said:Smellin Coffee said:RAIDER said:Binaca Chugger said:I was in Akron when LeBron James was in high school. We watched a class act work and work and work and win. He never was about himself, always about his teammates, refusing to do an interview without his entire team. Even when he went to the NBA, he hired his old teammates to give them a payday for their help in making him great.
In Cleveland, LJ learned that the NBA is a business and people will lie to you to get more for them. When Boozer left the Cavs, it hurt LJ deeply. The two had a friendship and a commitment to each other that Boozer just walked away from. LJ had to learn how to win and couldn't do it in Cleveland.
His epic "going to south beach" show was a catastrophic mistake. He has admitted such and apologized. However, one understands why he went. Opportunity to play with his friends, whom he trusted. Opportunity to play for one of the great psychologists in the game (Phil Jackson) who knew how to win. LeBron learned, and won.
Coming back to Cleveland was a gargantuan move that no one believed. He humbled himself, apologized to the city and committed to fixing what was wrong. He single handedly changed not just a team, but an economy. We must also mention that LeBron had to coach the team for the first year and a half that he was there (seriously, nobody thought Blatt was actually coaching).
Add to this, that the media hates LeBron. Everything he does is criticized. Every action is mocked. He didn't answer his accusers until he won. Even then, he just asked them to look at the scoreboard. "Hey, haters. You said I couldn't. I did." The media is still in a frenzy over Steph Curry and what a darling he is while tearing down LeBron James for holding the trophy to high, or not making a final shot, or sending out a tweet that he won.
Is LeBron one of the all time greats? Yes.
Is he the greatest? Impossible to tell. The game has changed through the generations, so that stats cannot be the final determining factor.
I agree with every word. Nicely done!
Every word? Even though Phil Jackson had nothing to do with coaching the Heat?
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I knew the Hacker meant Pat Riley.![]()
Yes, Pat Riley was there. But, wasn't Phil in the background somewhere working with the team over the shoulder of Spoelstra?
Smellin Coffee said:Binaca Chugger said:RAIDER said:Smellin Coffee said:RAIDER said:Binaca Chugger said:I was in Akron when LeBron James was in high school. We watched a class act work and work and work and win. He never was about himself, always about his teammates, refusing to do an interview without his entire team. Even when he went to the NBA, he hired his old teammates to give them a payday for their help in making him great.
In Cleveland, LJ learned that the NBA is a business and people will lie to you to get more for them. When Boozer left the Cavs, it hurt LJ deeply. The two had a friendship and a commitment to each other that Boozer just walked away from. LJ had to learn how to win and couldn't do it in Cleveland.
His epic "going to south beach" show was a catastrophic mistake. He has admitted such and apologized. However, one understands why he went. Opportunity to play with his friends, whom he trusted. Opportunity to play for one of the great psychologists in the game (Phil Jackson) who knew how to win. LeBron learned, and won.
Coming back to Cleveland was a gargantuan move that no one believed. He humbled himself, apologized to the city and committed to fixing what was wrong. He single handedly changed not just a team, but an economy. We must also mention that LeBron had to coach the team for the first year and a half that he was there (seriously, nobody thought Blatt was actually coaching).
Add to this, that the media hates LeBron. Everything he does is criticized. Every action is mocked. He didn't answer his accusers until he won. Even then, he just asked them to look at the scoreboard. "Hey, haters. You said I couldn't. I did." The media is still in a frenzy over Steph Curry and what a darling he is while tearing down LeBron James for holding the trophy to high, or not making a final shot, or sending out a tweet that he won.
Is LeBron one of the all time greats? Yes.
Is he the greatest? Impossible to tell. The game has changed through the generations, so that stats cannot be the final determining factor.
I agree with every word. Nicely done!
Every word? Even though Phil Jackson had nothing to do with coaching the Heat?
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I knew the Hacker meant Pat Riley.![]()
Yes, Pat Riley was there. But, wasn't Phil in the background somewhere working with the team over the shoulder of Spoelstra?
Phil was with the Lakers at the time.
RAIDER said:Binaca Chugger said:Smellin Coffee said:RAIDER said:Binaca Chugger said:I was in Akron when LeBron James was in high school. We watched a class act work and work and work and win. He never was about himself, always about his teammates, refusing to do an interview without his entire team. Even when he went to the NBA, he hired his old teammates to give them a payday for their help in making him great.
In Cleveland, LJ learned that the NBA is a business and people will lie to you to get more for them. When Boozer left the Cavs, it hurt LJ deeply. The two had a friendship and a commitment to each other that Boozer just walked away from. LJ had to learn how to win and couldn't do it in Cleveland.
His epic "going to south beach" show was a catastrophic mistake. He has admitted such and apologized. However, one understands why he went. Opportunity to play with his friends, whom he trusted. Opportunity to play for one of the great psychologists in the game (Phil Jackson) who knew how to win. LeBron learned, and won.
Coming back to Cleveland was a gargantuan move that no one believed. He humbled himself, apologized to the city and committed to fixing what was wrong. He single handedly changed not just a team, but an economy. We must also mention that LeBron had to coach the team for the first year and a half that he was there (seriously, nobody thought Blatt was actually coaching).
Add to this, that the media hates LeBron. Everything he does is criticized. Every action is mocked. He didn't answer his accusers until he won. Even then, he just asked them to look at the scoreboard. "Hey, haters. You said I couldn't. I did." The media is still in a frenzy over Steph Curry and what a darling he is while tearing down LeBron James for holding the trophy to high, or not making a final shot, or sending out a tweet that he won.
Is LeBron one of the all time greats? Yes.
Is he the greatest? Impossible to tell. The game has changed through the generations, so that stats cannot be the final determining factor.
I agree with every word. Nicely done!
Every word? Even though Phil Jackson had nothing to do with coaching the Heat?
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C'mon. Spoelstra coaching that team in his first year without any help from Phil? Really? Everyone knows that Phil had his imprint on that team and helped provide the group with its needed motivation and team building. LeBron learned how to win from Phil, not Erik.
You mean "Pat".