Let's talk about the word "standards"

So guilt by association, correct?
No. Guilt by association is someone who berates any Christian who is involved in the political process in choosing their representatives while at the same time making thread after thread on how Christians should not be involved in politics. You are one of the most political posters on this forum. I have seen men come to church trying to look like Mr. T and women with hot pants on. If a lost person comes to church like that, it is expected. However, when members of the church who claim to be Christians come to church like that in order to draw attention to themselves it is up to the leadership to address such matters. Drugs, sex and rock and roll belong to the world and should be kept out of the fellowship of believers. It has come to the point that calling anyone out for immodesty is considered legalistic.
 
Scripture says to "live by the Spirit."

It does not tell us to "have standards."

The emphasis on "standards" to the exclusion of "live by the Spirit" is exactly the problem. These standards placed on believers in Bible College and bleeding into the local churches create an atmosphere of fear... exactly what Scripture warns us against. (Ro 8.14)

When is the last time a chapel speaker in Bible college/Pastor in an IFB church taught about "living by the Spirit?"

When is the last time a chapel speaker in Bible college/Pastor in an IFB church taught about "standards."

The ratio above should challenge our vocabulary, love for God and enjoyment of our progress in Sanctification.
 
Scripture says to "live by the Spirit."

It does not tell us to "have standards."

The emphasis on "standards" to the exclusion of "live by the Spirit" is exactly the problem. These standards placed on believers in Bible College and bleeding into the local churches create an atmosphere of fear... exactly what Scripture warns us against. (Ro 8.14)

When is the last time a chapel speaker in Bible college/Pastor in an IFB church taught about "living by the Spirit?"

When is the last time a chapel speaker in Bible college/Pastor in an IFB church taught about "standards."

The ratio above should challenge our vocabulary, love for God and enjoyment of our progress in Sanctification.
1Tim 2:9 likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire,
1Tim 2:10 but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works.

Paul’s admonishment of immodest dress to draw attention to one’s self died out in the first century? He said we are to judge those inside the church, not the lost outside of it.

1Cor 5:12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge?
1Cor 5:13 God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”
 
Okay, now we are getting somewhere - a Scriptural standard for women's apparel! The wimmin-folk are not allowed to have braided hair or wear gold or pearls - does this apply to women in all places, or only when in church? They are not allowed to wear "costly array" - what is the dollar amount, the "standard" that would distinguish between attire that is costly and that which is of a permissibly modest expenditure?

Does the Greek word "kosmios," for modest, refer to the percentage of flesh that is covered by the clothing, or to the amount of money spent for it? According to Vines, "kosmios" means "Orderly, well-arranged, decent, modest."

"The apostle condemneth not these ornaments where they are suited to the quality of women, and ask not too much time to put on, and in order; but where they are too excessive with respect to the purse of those that wear them, or take up more time to be spent in putting them on than is fit to be so spent, especially on a sabbath day, or where they are put on out of pride, or to make a vain show, or are of that nature and fashion as they speak an unchaste or immodest heart, or may cause scandal to others." - Matthew Poole's commentary.

Paul's concern here may be not so much concerning the need for the ladies to cover up, but rather an exhortation to avoid needless conspicuous consumption and showing off of wealth at times of worship, in congregations that included some folks who were rich, and others who were living below the poverty line and perhaps held in slavery, who could not afford luxurious finery in their wardrobes. I welcome further discussion on the meaning of "modest" in this passage.
 
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