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The Coming Day of the Lord​

Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

 
Zechariah 14:4 says (literally) that the mountain will sit when the Lord stands on it. So did Jesus return and no one noticed? Or when he comes, is he going to have to take credit for someone else's cracks?

There is no fault line that runs directly through the Mount of Olives. It's a mile to the south, through the Mount of Corruption, an adjacent peak on that same ridge.
 
Ransom said:
Zechariah 14:4 says (literally) that the mountain will sit when the Lord stands on it. So did Jesus return and no one noticed? Or when he comes, is he going to have to take credit for someone else's cracks?

There is no fault line that runs directly through the Mount of Olives. It's a mile to the south, through the Mount of Corruption, an adjacent peak on that same ridge.
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I realize Jesus hasn’t come back yet but there are geological faults that run through that area. It doesn’t have to run “directly” under it. But of course when Jesus does return it will be a supernatural event.

IV. Geological Considerations

1. Location on a Rift System: The Mount of Olives lies in proximity to the Jordan Rift Valley, part of a broader geological fault (often called the Dead Sea Transform). This transform has been responsible for notable earthquakes in recorded history.

2. Documented Earthquakes: Multiple quakes have rattled the vicinity:

- A significant quake in 31 BC affected Jericho and was felt strongly in Jerusalem.

- In AD 1927, an earthquake near Jericho caused damage across the region, underscoring local tectonic instability.

3. Potential for Splitting: Large-scale seismic events have been known to create significant fissures, landslides, and changes in terrain. While the exact manner in which a mountain could “split” is uncertain, there is geological precedent for terrain being dramatically altered by fault movement. Research by geologists working in Israel (including the Geological Survey of Israel) supports the possibility that the terrain around the Mount of Olives could undergo considerable reconfiguration during a major seismic event.

 
The fault-crack in the video isn’t even of the same area. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
biscuit1953 said:
I realize Jesus hasn’t come back yet but there are geological faults that run through that area. It doesn’t have to run “directly” under it. But of course when Jesus does return it will be a supernatural event.
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So the cracks in the video do not, in fact, fulfill anything.
 
biscuit1953 said:
The Coming Day of the Lord​

Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

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Ghislaine Maxwell's dad is buried on the Mount of Olives.
 
2 Pe 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
2 Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

The world mocks Christians when they talk about the Lord returning to judge the world. They mock the miraculous stories of the Bible and use “science falsely so called” to make fun of Christians as ignorant backwoods religious zealots. But science and archaeology are on the Christian’s side. Many, many discoveries in science and archaeology have confirmed the Bible is true along with fulfilled prophecies.​

https://answersingenesis.org/presup...337fSfd03TM5VDXY0PuMBvcmJjGzqdE8Pg2tg--d543so

https://biblearchaeologyreport.com/...al-archaeology-relating-to-the-new-testament/

To me the fact that there are fault lines located at the place where Jesus said He would return and where scripture predicts a mighty earthquake that will dramatically change the landscape of the Mount Of olives isn’t something to argue about but is exciting and just another proof that only holy men of God could have written things thousands of years ago that line up with reality. I think Bible Hub summed it up quite succinctly.

IX. Conclusion​

The prophecy in Zechariah 14:4 envisions a day when the Mount of Olives will split as a testament to divine intervention and authority. While geological realities indicate the region is seismically active and capable of dramatic shifts, the event also embodies a supernatural act that underscores the sovereignty of the One who holds creation in His hands.

In light of biblical patterns-past miracles, the resurrection of Christ, and the testimonies of scriptural and non-scriptural evidence-this prophecy need not be dismissed as myth. Rather, it fits within a consistent framework that views the Creator as both Lord of natural processes and the ultimate source of miraculous activity.

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biscuit1953 said:
The world mocks Christians when they talk about the Lord returning to judge the world. They mock the miraculous stories of the Bible and use “science falsely so called” to make fun of Christians as ignorant backwoods religious zealots.
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Contrary to what your video's narrator says, there isn't a fault line running directly through the Mount of Olives, and a crack opening up in it spontaneously doesn't fulfil Zech. 14:4, which says Jesus does it when he returns.

How does making videos saying things that are untrue and wrong dispel that notion that Christians are ignorant zealots?

This isn't some new thing. Even a millennium and a half ago, Augustine complained that when Christians made claims about the world that were contrary to known facts, it harmed Christianity's credibility.
 
Ransom said:
Contrary to what your video's narrator says, there isn't a fault line running directly through the Mount of Olives, and a crack opening up in it spontaneously doesn't fulfil Zech. 14:4, which says Jesus does it when he returns.

How does making videos saying things that are untrue and wrong dispel that notion that Christians are ignorant zealots?

This isn't some new thing. Even a millennium and a half ago, Augustine complained that when Christians made claims about the world that were contrary to known facts, it harmed Christianity's credibility.
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Basically, what he was saying was that cracks are appearing and seismic activity is happening which is in sync with the prophecy of Zecheriah. Do you believe that prophecy will take place when Jesus returns? One may question his presenting of it but if people read their Bibles, they may begin to realize how many things line up with scripture.
 
Is there evidence of these cracks on the Mount of Olives that doesn't come from social media? I see a lot of stuff on Facebook, YouTube and TikTok with headlines WRITTEN in RANDOM ALL-CAPS. I see nothing on any news sites. The Mount of Olives is a major tourist site. If it was breaking apart, might not someone find it newsworthy?
 
Matthew Henry's commentary on Zechariah 14 is good tool.

These things have already been fulfilled. Of course, we already know that, because a host of jots and tittles have passed from the law, being nailed to the Cross, and that couldn't have happened till all had been fulfilled.

So instead of allowing our ignorance to snap Christ's words from our ears before they take root, it may behoove us to look into how they were fulfilled.
 
Adam Clarke, in common with Matthew Henry, sees a fulfillment of Zechariah 14 in the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in 70 AD:

www.studylight.org

Zechariah 14 - Clarke's Commentary - Bible Commentaries - StudyLight.org

Zechariah 14, Clarke's Commentary, Clarke's Commentary offers Christians deep insights into the Scriptures through thorough examination of original texts and historical context.
www.studylight.org www.studylight.org
 
Here's one good "sign" to convince us that the Rapture is really near - when the big-shot prophecy teachers, who make money peddling this "signs of the times" malarkey, start giving away all their money, instead of hanging on to their stash and risking it being appropriated by the Beast after the Rapture takes place, then that may be an indication that the end is really near this time, for sure.

If the prophecy experts are not giving their fortunes away in preparation for the Rapture, why not? Do they not believe their own propaganda? Here are some estimated net worths for some of the biggest prophecy gurus:

David Jeremiah - $10,000,000 to $50,000,000
John Hagee - $4,500,000 to $6,000,000
Jan Markell - $1,500,000 to $8,000,000
Tim Lahaye, died 2016 - $20,000,000
Ed Hindson, died 2022 - $5,000,000 to $10,000,000
The late great Hal Lindsey, died 2024 - $10,000,000
 
illinoisguy said:
Adam Clarke, in common with Matthew Henry, sees a fulfillment of Zechariah 14 in the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in 70 AD:

www.studylight.org

Zechariah 14 - Clarke's Commentary - Bible Commentaries - StudyLight.org

Zechariah 14, Clarke's Commentary, Clarke's Commentary offers Christians deep insights into the Scriptures through thorough examination of original texts and historical context.
www.studylight.org www.studylight.org
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Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

Clarke: And the mount of Olives shall cleave - God shall display his miraculous power as fully in the final restoration of the Jews, as he did when he divided the Red Sea that their forefathers might pass through dry-shod. Some refer this to the destruction of the city by the Romans.
Clarke refuses to take the text as it stands but makes this verse nothing more than a metaphor to the Red Sea being departed.

Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Clark: The plain meaning of this is, that the destruction of Jerusalem will be such a remarkable instance of Divine vengeance, such a signal manifestation of Christ’s power and glory, that all the Jewish tribes shall mourn, and many will, in consequence of this manifestation of God, be led to acknowledge Christ and his religion.
Clarke believes Jesus Christ came back in 70 A.D. and His statement that “they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory” is nothing more than a metaphor.

Quoting from another post, “Not taking the Bible literally is when the interpretation is limited only by the imagination of the reader. This is to say, the meaning is not truly limited at all. It can mean whatever the receiver perceives it to mean and is often defined by outside authorities like tradition or popularity.”
 
illinoisguy said:
Here's one good "sign" to convince us that the Rapture is really near - when the big-shot prophecy teachers, who make money peddling this "signs of the times" malarkey, start giving away all their money, instead of hanging on to their stash and risking it being appropriated by the Beast after the Rapture takes place, then that may be an indication that the end is really near this time, for sure.

If the prophecy experts are not giving their fortunes away in preparation for the Rapture, why not? Do they not believe their own propaganda? Here are some estimated net worths for some of the biggest prophecy gurus:

David Jeremiah - $10,000,000 to $50,000,000
John Hagee - $4,500,000 to $6,000,000
Jan Markell - $1,500,000 to $8,000,000
Tim Lahaye, died 2016 - $20,000,000
Ed Hindson, died 2022 - $5,000,000 to $10,000,000
The late great Hal Lindsey, died 2024 - $10,000,000
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illinoisguy said:
Here's one good "sign" to convince us that the Rapture is really near - when the big-shot prophecy teachers, who make money peddling this "signs of the times" malarkey, start giving away all their money, instead of hanging on to their stash and risking it being appropriated by the Beast after the Rapture takes place, then that may be an indication that the end is really near this time, for sure.
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Very true!
 
Who said anything about being jealous or envious of the wealth of the prophecy teachers? I didn't say anything about it at all. I am doing quite well myself, thank you, without having to peddle bogus prophecy videos for a living.

This prophecy video is worthless, because it makes no definite statements about anything. The qualifiers "Maybe," "could be," "if true," "appears" are stated so many times that I lost count. We are told that the cracks "may be" a signal to Christ's return. Science "appears" to be pointing to the same moment as Scripture. This "could be" the beginning of Zechariah's prophecy. The crack "could be" the beginning of some sort of a countdown. "If" the prophecy of Zechariah is stirring beneath our feet, something big is happening.

We are shown a picture of a massive crack but the caption says "Not a real photo." We are told that geologists are now measuring these cracks even as we speak, but we are not told what were the conclusions of these geologists. We are told that wars and natural disasters are reaching historic highs, but there no quantifying or statistics are given to demonstrate this.

Basically, the plainly stated wording and message of the video is, "the cracks may be a sign of the end, or then again, maybe not." The narrator never tells us any more definite about it than that. I don't see how this provides any helpful information or edification. It's pure speculation and nothing more.
 
illinoisguy said:
Who said anything about being jealous or envious of the wealth of the prophecy teachers? I didn't say anything about it at all. I am doing quite well myself, thank you, without having to peddle bogus prophecy videos for a living.

This prophecy video is worthless, because it makes no definite statements about anything. The qualifiers "Maybe," "could be," "if true," "appears" are stated so many times that I lost count. We are told that the cracks "may be" a signal to Christ's return. Science "appears" to be pointing to the same moment as Scripture. This "could be" the beginning of Zechariah's prophecy. The crack "could be" the beginning of some sort of a countdown. "If" the prophecy of Zechariah is stirring beneath our feet, something big is happening.

We are shown a picture of a massive crack but the caption says "Not a real photo." We are told that geologists are now measuring these cracks even as we speak, but we are not told what were the conclusions of these geologists. We are told that wars and natural disasters are reaching historic highs, but there no quantifying or statistics are given to demonstrate this.

Basically, the plainly stated wording and message of the video is, "the cracks may be a sign of the end, or then again, maybe not." The narrator never tells us any more definite about it than that. I don't see how this provides any helpful information or edification. It's pure speculation and nothing more.
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Since you believe the splitting of the Mount of Olives is just a metaphor, tell us the meaning of Adam and Eve. What do they represent in your mind?
 
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