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Martin Luther Hyles

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It looks like Roe v. Wade is going away.

Blessed be God.
Blessed be His Holy Name.
Blessed be Jesus Christ, true God and true Man.
Blessed be the Name of Jesus.
Blessed be His Most Sacred Heart.
Blessed be His Most Precious Blood.
Blessed be Jesus in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar.
Blessed be the Holy Spirit, the Paraclete.
Blessed be the great Mother of God, Mary most Holy.
Blessed be her Holy and Immaculate Conception.
Blessed be her Glorious Assumption.
Blessed be the name of Mary, Virgin and Mother.
Blessed be St. Joseph, her most chaste spouse.
Blessed be God in His Angels and in His Saints. Amen.

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And Mary said, “My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden. For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed;
Luke 1:46-48 RSVCE

Well, since She was “full of grace,” we know that she indeed heard the Word of God and kept it. Maybe that’s why all generations will call Her blessed.
 
And Mary said, “My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden. For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed;
Luke 1:46-48 RSVCE

Well, since She was “full of grace,” we know that she indeed heard the Word of God and kept it. Maybe that’s why all generations will call Her blessed.
She indeed WAS blessed by God, to be allowed to be the mother of Christ...but, then again, the Catholics continue to put her ABOVE Christ...But nowhere in the prayer to Mary as published by the RCC, do we find Scriptural proof that we are to be praying to Mary, nor does it confirm that she prays for "sinners, now, and at the hour of our death." This is idolatry, plain and simple. Anyone who follows this is guilty of idolatry and is in a cult.
 
She indeed WAS blessed by God, to be allowed to be the mother of Christ...but, then again, the Catholics continue to put her ABOVE Christ...But nowhere in the prayer to Mary as published by the RCC, do we find Scriptural proof that we are to be praying to Mary, nor does it confirm that she prays for "sinners, now, and at the hour of our death." This is idolatry, plain and simple. Anyone who follows this is guilty of idolatry and is in a cult.
Hebrews 12 makes it clear the cloud of witnesses is watching over us. Revelations demonstrates the martyrs pray for us. Why not ask the best Christian thAt ever lived to pray for us now? After all. She was full of grace. That left no room for sin. Give her the benefit of the doubt. She was maybe 15 and the Theotokos for 9 months.
 
Hebrews 12 makes it clear the cloud of witnesses is watching over us. Revelations demonstrates the martyrs pray for us. Why not ask the best Christian thAt ever lived to pray for us now? After all. She was full of grace. That left no room for sin. Give her the benefit of the doubt. She was maybe 15 and the Theotokos for 9 months.
Being "full of grace" in no way makes her sinless. Not even for 9 months. Sorry, but no cigar on this. This is a misapplication of Scripture, and you know it. I give CHRIST, and CHRIST ALONE the benefit of the doubt, not Mary...and nowhere does it state that she will be praying for us...The Bible is clear the Holy Spirit and Christ make intercession and advocate for us before the Father. There is a "cloud of witnesses" that can possibly SEE what we are doing, but, that is NO INDICATION that they are praying for us. I'll stick with Scripture and not something that has been "input" into it by a pope or "church father."
 
When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne; they cried out with a loud voice, “O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before thou wilt judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell upon the earth?” Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brethren should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.
Revelation 6:9-11 RSVCE
 
The dogma of the Immaculate Conception doesn't hang on a single verse of the Bible, because it's not in the Bible at all. (Just to avoid confusion, please note that Immaculate Conception has to do with the alleged sinless conception of the Virgin Mary - it does not refer to Christ's Virgin Birth or His sinlessness). If the dogma of the Immaculate Conception is so obvious, why was it a point of controversy and debate within the Roman Catholic Church for so many centuries? Why did it take until 1854 for the Pope to proclaim it as dogma?

"The doctrine of the Immaculate Conception caused a virtual civil war between Franciscans and Dominicans during the middle ages, with Franciscan 'Scotists' in its favour and Dominican 'Thomists' against it. The English ecclesiastic and scholar Eadmer (c.1060-c.1126) reasoned that it was possible that Mary was conceived without original sin in view of God's omnipotence, and that it was also appropriate in view of her role as Mother of God: Potuit, decuit, fecit, 'it was possible, it was fitting, therefore it was done.' Others, including Bernard of Clairvaux (1090–1153) and Thomas Aquinas (1225–1274), objected that if Mary were free of original sin at her conception then she would have no need of redemption, making Christ superfluous; . . .

"In 1849 Pope Pius IX asked the Bishops of the Church for their views on whether the doctrine should be defined as dogma; ninety percent of those who responded were supportive, and in 1854 the Immaculate Conception dogma was proclaimed with the bull Ineffabilis Deus. Although the Archbishop of Paris, Marie-Dominique-Auguste Sibour, warned that the Immaculate Conception 'could be proved neither from the Scriptures nor from tradition' he was present at the promulgation of the decree and shortly afterwards solemnly published it in his own diocese."


 
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I’ve copied and pasted a screenshot from Planet of the Apes, a Shake and Bake commercial meme. But you’ve gone and done it! Copied and pasted Wikipedia!
 
The immaculate conception doesn’t hang on one verse.
Right. It hangs on zero.

EDIT: You post a single verse to claim the sinlessness of Mary. I post a single verse asking if that same argument applies to Stephen. You say (not directly) that it doesn't. So that means your single verse doesn't prove the sinlessness of Mary, right?
 
Why not ask the best Christian thAt ever lived to pray for us now?

Was Mary "the best Christian that ever lived," though? She didn't seem to believe much in the ministry of her son while he was in his earthly life, and the one mention of her after his ascension is merely that she was part of the church, implying at most that she had converted from Judaism to Christianity.

You have nothing to go on. Perhaps she was a perfectly average Christian. There's as much evidence of that as there is for your presupposition. If she was the best Christian ever, we can wonder why Jesus never put her in charge, instead of those nitwit fishermen.

After all. She was full of grace. That left no room for sin.

"Full of grace" is from plenis gratia in the Vulgate. In other words, Mary's sinless state is a dogma based on a translation. In Greek it's more like "highly favoured."
 
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