"Pastor Is Always Right, Even If Wrong" - Abusive Spiritual Authority Hall of Shame

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Good article about sources of the Dictatorial Preacher Rule teaching, showing that it is by no means a monopoly of the Independent Baptist movement - many charismatics have taught and propagated this heresy:


Lots of names named here, including Bob Mumford, Charles Simpson, Ern Baxter, Don Basham, Derek Prince, Benny Hinn, Juan Carlos Ortiz, Bill Gothard, Mark Driscoll, Kansas City Prophets, Reba Place, Word of God Community, etc. The name of Watchman Nee may come as a surprise to some, but not to me. Here is an example of Nee's teaching on abusive authority, from his book "Spiritual Authority," p. 71:

"People will perhaps argue, 'What if the authority is wrong?' The answer is, if God dares to entrust His authority to men, then we can dare to obey. Whether the authority is right or wrong does not concern us, since he has to be responsible directly to God. The obedient needs only to obey; the Lord will not hold us responsible for any mistaken obedience, rather will He hold the delegated authority responsible for his erroneous act. Insubordination, however, is rebellion, and for this the one under authority must answer to God."

My advice to anyone whose spiritual leaders are teaching anything like this: read these two articles I have posted, and leave your church (not necessarily in that order).

 
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The Orthodox church is just as bad. They put authority in their church fathers that is as great as the Bible. We Protestants believe that everyone understands the primacy of the Word of God. They just don't. It leads down the same path.
 
Good article about sources of the Dictatorial Preacher Rule teaching, showing that it is by no means a monopoly of the Independent Baptist movement - many charismatics have taught and propagated this heresy:


Lots of names named here, including Bob Mumford, Charles Simpson, Ern Baxter, Don Basham, Derek Prince, Benny Hinn, Juan Carlos Ortiz, Bill Gothard, Mark Driscoll, Kansas City Prophets, Reba Place, Word of God Community, etc. The name of Watchman Nee may come as a surprise to some, but not to me. Here is an example of Nee's teaching on abusive authority, from his book "Spiritual Authority," p. 71:

"People will perhaps argue, 'What if the authority is wrong?' The answer is, if God dares to entrust His authority to men, then we can dare to obey. Whether the authority is right or wrong does not concern us, since he has to be responsible directly to God. The obedient needs only to obey; the Lord will not hold us responsible for any mistaken obedience, rather will He hold the delegated authority responsible for his erroneous act. Insubordination, however, is rebellion, and for this the one under authority must answer to God."

My advice to anyone whose spiritual leaders are teaching anything like this: read these two articles I have posted, and leave your church (not necessarily in that order).

Those who are into modern day prophets and Apostles and "revelations" coming to them from God would take to heart"touch not the Lords anointed" as mandate to allow their leaders to do some gross sinning
 
Those who are into modern day prophets and Apostles and "revelations" coming to them from God would take to heart"touch not the Lords anointed" as mandate to allow their leaders to do some gross sinning
Christ, and only Christ, is the Lord's Anointed.
 
Good article about sources of the Dictatorial Preacher Rule teaching, showing that it is by no means a monopoly of the Independent Baptist movement - many charismatics have taught and propagated this heresy:


Lots of names named here, including Bob Mumford, Charles Simpson, Ern Baxter, Don Basham, Derek Prince, Benny Hinn, Juan Carlos Ortiz, Bill Gothard, Mark Driscoll, Kansas City Prophets, Reba Place, Word of God Community, etc. The name of Watchman Nee may come as a surprise to some, but not to me. Here is an example of Nee's teaching on abusive authority, from his book "Spiritual Authority," p. 71:

"People will perhaps argue, 'What if the authority is wrong?' The answer is, if God dares to entrust His authority to men, then we can dare to obey. Whether the authority is right or wrong does not concern us, since he has to be responsible directly to God. The obedient needs only to obey; the Lord will not hold us responsible for any mistaken obedience, rather will He hold the delegated authority responsible for his erroneous act. Insubordination, however, is rebellion, and for this the one under authority must answer to God."

My advice to anyone whose spiritual leaders are teaching anything like this: read these two articles I have posted, and leave your church (not necessarily in that order).

All of them teach and hold to heresy, so cannot be 'anointed of and by the Holy Ghost"
 
Wow Get out of a abusive know it all pulpit. Never put yourself under that leadership its dangerous. Just look at the lives destroyed. I have never been there but in Hammond it was not good...........
 
All Christians are the Lord's anointed:

"Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God; Who hath also sealed us, and given us the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts." - 2 Corinthians 1:20-21.

"But ye have an unction from the Holy One. . . . the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you; but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him." - 1 John 2:20, 27.

The preacher who spoke those words about not criticizing the Lord's anointed in the video was John Lindell, Pastor of James River Church in Springfield, Missouri.

 
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Christ, and only Christ, is the Lord's Anointed.

Psa. 105:15 and 1 Chr. 16:22 say his people are the anointed; and as illinoisguy correctly pointed out above, 1 Cor. 1 says those in Christ are anointed (i.e. his New Covenant people, not just Jesus). Be more biblically literate.
 
Hosea 11:1 says his people are his son, but we know that means Jesus. Exercise some comprehension.

I comprehend Psa. 105, 1 Chr. 16, and 1 Cor. 1 just fine without Hosea's help. I don't shuffle Bible verses like a deck of cards and expect to deal a coherent hand of prophecy. I'm not a Dispensationalist.
 
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