Pastors Splitting Up Marriages

[no value]

Yesterday I commented on a thread about tithing that conjured up memories of things I hadn't thought about for years. Quite frankly, there's one memory in the entire saga of our 20+ years in the IFBX church we attended that stands out---the fact that the pastor tried to split my marriage up.

Allow me to briefly explain. The relationship between the pastor and I had deteriorated to the point that we avoided each other. But the relationship with my wife was quite the opposite. He loved her. Not in a romantic, physical sense---he loved having her in the church. He wanted me GONE; he wanted her to stay.

When I finally left she went with me and it surprised the pastor. A few weeks after we left, he visited our house in the day time to talk with my wife. He knew I would be at work. He told her he was sorry that she had left. That SHE had left, not WE had left. He asked her to come back. Thankfully, my wife told him we attend church together.

Needless to say, my wife and I had quite a conversation when I got home. I was livid. I called the pastor asking to speak with him face-to-face. He told me he didn't want to talk to me, and that I had no right to control my wife's spiritual life.

Just for the record---when I finally had reached my breaking point and decided to leave, I told my wife I couldn't go to that church anymore and that she was under no obligation to follow me to another church. Her decision was her decision.

Our former pastor is a HAC grad kool-aid drinking radical. Looking back through the prism of time I have read reports of the many marriages that Jack Hyles came between. Sounds like the apple didn't fall from from the proverbial tree.

I feel much better now that I've gotten that out of my head.

 

[RAIDER]

Yesterday I commented on a thread about tithing that conjured up memories of things I hadn't thought about for years. Quite frankly, there's one memory in the entire saga of our 20+ years in the IFBX church we attended that stands out---the fact that the pastor tried to split my marriage up.

Allow me to briefly explain. The relationship between the pastor and I had deteriorated to the point that we avoided each other. But the relationship with my wife was quite the opposite. He loved her. Not in a romantic, physical sense---he loved having her in the church. He wanted me GONE; he wanted her to stay.

When I finally left she went with me and it surprised the pastor. A few weeks after we left, he visited our house in the day time to talk with my wife. He knew I would be at work. He told her he was sorry that she had left. That SHE had left, not WE had left. He asked her to come back. Thankfully, my wife told him we attend church together.

Needless to say, my wife and I had quite a conversation when I got home. I was livid. I called the pastor asking to speak with him face-to-face. He told me he didn't want to talk to me, and that I had no right to control my wife's spiritual life.

Just for the record---when I finally had reached my breaking point and decided to leave, I told my wife I couldn't go to that church anymore and that she was under no obligation to follow me to another church. Her decision was her decision.

Our former pastor is a HAC grad kool-aid drinking radical. Looking back through the prism of time I have read reports of the many marriages that Jack Hyles came between. Sounds like the apple didn't fall from from the proverbial tree.

I feel much better now that I've gotten that out of my head.

You are lumping too many people into one basket.  This behavior was never taught at HAC and we did not see Jack Hyles doing that of which you are accusing him.  Your pastor was an idiot all on his own.

 

[Bruh]

Yesterday I commented on a thread about tithing that conjured up memories of things I hadn't thought about for years. Quite frankly, there's one memory in the entire saga of our 20+ years in the IFBX church we attended that stands out---the fact that the pastor tried to split my marriage up.

Allow me to briefly explain. The relationship between the pastor and I had deteriorated to the point that we avoided each other. But the relationship with my wife was quite the opposite. He loved her. Not in a romantic, physical sense---he loved having her in the church. He wanted me GONE; he wanted her to stay.

When I finally left she went with me and it surprised the pastor. A few weeks after we left, he visited our house in the day time to talk with my wife. He knew I would be at work. He told her he was sorry that she had left. That SHE had left, not WE had left. He asked her to come back. Thankfully, my wife told him we attend church together.

Needless to say, my wife and I had quite a conversation when I got home. I was livid. I called the pastor asking to speak with him face-to-face. He told me he didn't want to talk to me, and that I had no right to control my wife's spiritual life.

Just for the record---when I finally had reached my breaking point and decided to leave, I told my wife I couldn't go to that church anymore and that she was under no obligation to follow me to another church. Her decision was her decision.

Our former pastor is a HAC grad kool-aid drinking radical. Looking back through the prism of time I have read reports of the many marriages that Jack Hyles came between. Sounds like the apple didn't fall from from the proverbial tree.

I feel much better now that I've gotten that out of my head.

You are lumping too many people into one basket.  This behavior was never taught at HAC and we did not see Jack Hyles doing that of which you are accusing him.  Your pastor was an idiot all on his own.

I wouldn't have called I would've just showed up.

And I would've told him if he EVER contacted my wife again I would break his jaw.

And FTR, I would've NEVER told my wife she could've stayed. Of course it would've gone without saying that she goes where I go.

But that's just me though, the way I understand it, we different down here.

 

[16KJV11]

Just out of curiosity, why did you tell your wife that she was under no obligation to follow you?  I know that I am just a Hyles Anderson graduate, but I thought that the Scripture said that you were to be the spiritual leader of the home, to lead your wife and family in the way they should go.

 

[Bruh]

Just out of curiosity, why did you tell your wife that she was under no obligation to follow you?  I know that I am just a Hyles Anderson graduate, but I thought that the Scripture said that you were to be the spiritual leader of the home, to lead your wife and family in the way they should go.

Right, that should go without saying.

 

[16KJV11]

Yesterday I commented on a thread about tithing that conjured up memories of things I hadn't thought about for years. Quite frankly, there's one memory in the entire saga of our 20+ years in the IFBX church we attended that stands out---the fact that the pastor tried to split my marriage up.

Allow me to briefly explain. The relationship between the pastor and I had deteriorated to the point that we avoided each other. But the relationship with my wife was quite the opposite. He loved her. Not in a romantic, physical sense---he loved having her in the church. He wanted me GONE; he wanted her to stay.

When I finally left she went with me and it surprised the pastor. A few weeks after we left, he visited our house in the day time to talk with my wife. He knew I would be at work. He told her he was sorry that she had left. That SHE had left, not WE had left. He asked her to come back. Thankfully, my wife told him we attend church together.

Needless to say, my wife and I had quite a conversation when I got home. I was livid. I called the pastor asking to speak with him face-to-face. He told me he didn't want to talk to me, and that I had no right to control my wife's spiritual life.

Just for the record---when I finally had reached my breaking point and decided to leave, I told my wife I couldn't go to that church anymore and that she was under no obligation to follow me to another church. Her decision was her decision.

Our former pastor is a HAC grad kool-aid drinking radical. Looking back through the prism of time I have read reports of the many marriages that Jack Hyles came between. Sounds like the apple didn't fall from from the proverbial tree.

I feel much better now that I've gotten that out of my head.

You are lumping too many people into one basket.  This behavior was never taught at HAC and we did not see Jack Hyles doing that of which you are accusing him.  Your pastor was an idiot all on his own.

I wouldn't have called I would've just showed up.

And I would've told him if he EVER contacted my wife again I would break his jaw.

And FTR, I would've NEVER told my wife she could've stayed. Of course it would've gone without saying that she goes where I go.

But that's just me though, the way I understand it, we different down here.

Ditto, unless I was a spineless, lace wearing, pink lemonade drinking, casper milquetoast! 

 

[16KJV11]

Just out of curiosity, why did you tell your wife that she was under no obligation to follow you?  I know that I am just a Hyles Anderson graduate, but I thought that the Scripture said that you were to be the spiritual leader of the home, to lead your wife and family in the way they should go.

Right, that should go without saying.

Well, I'm simply stating the obvious and being nice about it. 

 

[16KJV11]

Just out of curiosity, why did you tell your wife that she was under no obligation to follow you?  I know that I am just a Hyles Anderson graduate, but I thought that the Scripture said that you were to be the spiritual leader of the home, to lead your wife and family in the way they should go.

Right, that should go without saying.

Well, I'm simply stating the obvious and being nice about it. 

Besides, I'm trying to increase my post total (at the expense of no value, of course!)

 

[RAIDER]

Besides, I'm trying to increase my post total (at the expense of no value, of course!)

And thus this thread is leading you to the main thing.

 

[Bruh]

Just out of curiosity, why did you tell your wife that she was under no obligation to follow you?  I know that I am just a Hyles Anderson graduate, but I thought that the Scripture said that you were to be the spiritual leader of the home, to lead your wife and family in the way they should go.

Right, that should go without saying.

Well, I'm simply stating the obvious and being nice about it. 

Not me no, I have no patience for sissy men.

Not saying that no value is one but would've handled it differently.

 

[16KJV11]

Just out of curiosity, why did you tell your wife that she was under no obligation to follow you?  I know that I am just a Hyles Anderson graduate, but I thought that the Scripture said that you were to be the spiritual leader of the home, to lead your wife and family in the way they should go.

Right, that should go without saying.

Well, I'm simply stating the obvious and being nice about it. 

Not me no, I have no patience for sissy men.

Not saying that no value is one but would've handled it differently.

HEEEYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Yesterday I commented on a thread about tithing that conjured up memories of things I hadn't thought about for years. Quite frankly, there's one memory in the entire saga of our 20+ years in the IFBX church we attended that stands out---the fact that the pastor tried to split my marriage up.

Allow me to briefly explain. The relationship between the pastor and I had deteriorated to the point that we avoided each other. But the relationship with my wife was quite the opposite. He loved her. Not in a romantic, physical sense---he loved having her in the church. He wanted me GONE; he wanted her to stay.

When I finally left she went with me and it surprised the pastor. A few weeks after we left, he visited our house in the day time to talk with my wife. He knew I would be at work. He told her he was sorry that she had left. That SHE had left, not WE had left. He asked her to come back. Thankfully, my wife told him we attend church together.

Needless to say, my wife and I had quite a conversation when I got home. I was livid. I called the pastor asking to speak with him face-to-face. He told me he didn't want to talk to me, and that I had no right to control my wife's spiritual life.

Just for the record---when I finally had reached my breaking point and decided to leave, I told my wife I couldn't go to that church anymore and that she was under no obligation to follow me to another church. Her decision was her decision.

Our former pastor is a HAC grad kool-aid drinking radical. Looking back through the prism of time I have read reports of the many marriages that Jack Hyles came between. Sounds like the apple didn't fall from from the proverbial tree.

I feel much better now that I've gotten that out of my head.

You are lumping too many people into one basket.  This behavior was never taught at HAC and we did not see Jack Hyles doing that of which you are accusing him.  Your pastor was an idiot all on his own.

Your point is taken....HOWEVER, it seems to me, by reading the Forum over a period of years, that HAC has had more than their share of such idiocy. Seems more than coincidental...but that's just my take.

 

[RAIDER]

Your point is taken....HOWEVER, it seems to me, by reading the Forum over a period of years, that HAC has had more than their share of such idiocy. Seems more than coincidental...but that's just my take.

You are correct.  HAC has turned out its share of idiots.  I believe there are two reasons that you believe this:

1)  This is the HAC FFF and it is by far the largest of the college forums.  Hey, it's all about the numbers, baby!  There are several posters who have very little good to say about the place, and I'm sure you have read many of their posts through the years.  Also, several of us tease and exaggerate about Hacker's character traits.

2)  Because HAC had the reputation of being the "boot camp of IFB colleges" it drew some characters who had a lot of zeal with a small amount of common sense.  They had no balance.  We call these idiots "Hackers".

 

[Walt]

Yesterday I commented on a thread about tithing that conjured up memories of things I hadn't thought about for years. Quite frankly, there's one memory in the entire saga of our 20+ years in the IFBX church we attended that stands out---the fact that the pastor tried to split my marriage up.

Allow me to briefly explain. The relationship between the pastor and I had deteriorated to the point that we avoided each other. But the relationship with my wife was quite the opposite. He loved her. Not in a romantic, physical sense---he loved having her in the church. He wanted me GONE; he wanted her to stay.

When I finally left she went with me and it surprised the pastor. A few weeks after we left, he visited our house in the day time to talk with my wife. He knew I would be at work. He told her he was sorry that she had left. That SHE had left, not WE had left. He asked her to come back. Thankfully, my wife told him we attend church together.

Needless to say, my wife and I had quite a conversation when I got home. I was livid. I called the pastor asking to speak with him face-to-face. He told me he didn't want to talk to me, and that I had no right to control my wife's spiritual life.

Just for the record---when I finally had reached my breaking point and decided to leave, I told my wife I couldn't go to that church anymore and that she was under no obligation to follow me to another church. Her decision was her decision.

Our former pastor is a HAC grad kool-aid drinking radical. Looking back through the prism of time I have read reports of the many marriages that Jack Hyles came between. Sounds like the apple didn't fall from from the proverbial tree.

I feel much better now that I've gotten that out of my head.

You are lumping too many people into one basket.  This behavior was never taught at HAC and we did not see Jack Hyles doing that of which you are accusing him.  Your pastor was an idiot all on his own.

Although I don't think much of Jack Hyles, I agree with Raider here.  I also attended a church that was utterly pro-Hyles (HAC grad, of course), and they never taught any thing like this.

 

[Binaca Chugger]

I had a similar situation at a fundy church, but it wasn't a HACker. 

 

[no value]

Wow! Just got back home and read the many comments.

So let me get this straight...my HAC-grad, kool-aid drinking former pastor disrespects my home, and its my fault?

And for your information...I am the spiritual head of my home...but I do not tell my wife what to wear, think, say or where she goes to church. She's an adult capable of making her own decisions of which she (as well as all of us) is accountable for.

What a bunch of dolts to defend the Fuhrer Jack Hyles who split up the marriage of his secretary.

 

[RAIDER]

Wow! Just got back home and read the many comments.


What a bunch of dolts to defend the Fuhrer Jack Hyles who split up the marriage of his secretary.

Purely rumor.

 

[16KJV11]

Wow! Just got back home and read the many comments.

So let me get this straight...my HAC-grad, kool-aid drinking former pastor disrespects my home, and its my fault?

And for your information...I am the spiritual head of my home...but I do not tell my wife what to wear, think, say or where she goes to church. She's an adult capable of making her own decisions of which she (as well as all of us) is accountable for.

What a bunch of dolts to defend the Fuhrer Jack Hyles who split up the marriage of his secretary.

You are the spiritual head of you home and you can't lead your wife to go to church with you?
I hear that E-Bay has a supply of cajones for sale...

 

[IFB X-Files]

Wow! Just got back home and read the many comments.


What a bunch of dolts to defend the Fuhrer Jack Hyles who split up the marriage of his secretary.

Purely rumor.

LOL!  Tell Vic that.

 

[no value]

Wow! Just got back home and read the many comments.

So let me get this straight...my HAC-grad, kool-aid drinking former pastor disrespects my home, and its my fault?

And for your information...I am the spiritual head of my home...but I do not tell my wife what to wear, think, say or where she goes to church. She's an adult capable of making her own decisions of which she (as well as all of us) is accountable for.

What a bunch of dolts to defend the Fuhrer Jack Hyles who split up the marriage of his secretary.

You are the spiritual head of you home and you can't lead your wife to go to church with you?
I hear that E-Bay has a supply of cajones for sale...

Hey pal...the only place you can find your idea of leadership is Iran. What an idiot.