Pedophila isn't a crime!?

[Tarheel Baptist]

There are no vague statements. No where had I mentioned babysitting.

OK.
You are clear, consistent and concise...it's the rest of us here who simply have a lack of understanding.

As they say..."Carry On"! 

 

[Bruh]

No. Those mean different things. In short, you were lying.

Ok.

 

[LongGone]

The times are quickly changing.

2008 philosophy of sexuality
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/jan/03/paedophilia-bringing-dark-desires-light

I read the article.  Yes...you can always find some goofball that will say there is no harm.  Not surprising the one quoted is an advocate of pedophilia. I will still maintain that these folks are far from the norm. They will continue to be since there are real victims to their crimes.  I have no problem with a person that believes homosexuality is a sin based on scripture but I do take exception when homosexuality is considered or implied to be a greater sin than other sin and especially when one tries to compare it to a sin/crime such as pedophilia.

 

[Frag]

Bisexuals? That might be a legitimate observation. Transgendered? Total ignorance. Teenagers are not killing themselves because "one day they woke up and decided they didn't like their gender." Dude, these kids are being bullied, threatened and confused about what they feel which leads to depression and suicide. It is believed most of the suicides are because they don't know how to deal with these issues, both their feelings as well as their victimization by their church, parents, peers and bullies. It's a whole heck a lot more complicated than an overnight decision.

I'm sure it is.  However, while they are trying to figure it out, forgive me if I don't want them in the same bathroom as my granddaughters.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Bisexuals? That might be a legitimate observation. Transgendered? Total ignorance. Teenagers are not killing themselves because "one day they woke up and decided they didn't like their gender." Dude, these kids are being bullied, threatened and confused about what they feel which leads to depression and suicide. It is believed most of the suicides are because they don't know how to deal with these issues, both their feelings as well as their victimization by their church, parents, peers and bullies. It's a whole heck a lot more complicated than an overnight decision.

I'm sure it is.  However, while they are trying to figure it out, forgive me if I don't want them in the same bathroom as my granddaughters.

Nothing to forgive. My kids having gone to public school have been exposed to such so there is no fear. For those who have had limited exposure, fear of the unknown is natural. There may come a time they are in the same bathroom as a lesbian and nothing happens. Why? Because being lesbian does not make one a predator. Neither does being a transgendered individual. But I won't judge you for how you feel.

 

[Biker]

Nothing to forgive. My kids having gone to public school have been exposed to such so there is no fear. For those who have had limited exposure, fear of the unknown is natural. There may come a time they are in the same bathroom as a lesbian and nothing happens. Why? Because being lesbian does not make one a predator. Neither does being a transgendered individual. But I won't judge you for how you feel.

Ok with all due respect ....

You sound so much like a gay advocate I wonder to what degree you are involved in this lifestyle. I mean it just seems to escalate, your distaste for scripture on this matter. Your wanting to embrace this lifestyle as something which needs "defending" I am concerned for you

HAC= primed for gay pedophillia. So it can be more familiar than natural sex, woven into your being as a child. Discussing pent up sex with other men instead of discussing it naturally with women ( not you, just the HAC students in general). Kissing, embracing women was forbidden, women were from another planet so natural sex became something to fear. So they too often "practice" on young teens or barely legal, no difference in my eyes. They are all too young. Their sex experience is limited to their wives.. which they hop on and off of imho.Photos of happily married couple kissing can cause uproar, and lame excuses are given in defense of being offended by what they cannot grasp.

Adultery is a walk in the park compared to the destroying of the soul homosexuality unleashes. YEARS to recover from, even without attraction issues. Mutual touching? YEARS at minimum. Salvation helps but it never goes away, hence the warning "it destroys both body and soul"
All sexual perversions do this to some degree. Being primed to be a gay pedophile has it's drawbacks. Many people have experienced similar,(not that I know what youve been through) but this perversion is not confined to HAC's abuse, obviously. Sodomites/Homosexuals are influencing you bigtime, please steer clear of them ok. All that can happen is you fall in the mud with them. You are not grounded in scripture.

They have an uncontrolled sex addiction that has defined their very being, and it will escalate further. Children will be touched and all that comes with it as their sex addiction advances because people harbor and embrace it along with them. Not our right to hurt people like that. It's cruel to lead them to damnation

Openly gay people, by their own definition, want to push their sexual deviancy onto children. Just because Adults are also the recipients of this sex abuse doesn't change it. It just means their soul is so dead that they are becoming like animals, sharing and pushing their deviant sexual appetities on to everyone. The fact is Children are being groomed aka openly molested by these 'Out of the Closet" gays. Remember this comes from the guy who lays on the couch with his buddy cuddling, and who skinny dips in the American River with male friends. So if I notice, maybe that means it's too far gone, who knows. Cause i am suppose to be much worse than everyone else. if you want to think of it that way, just whatever way, ensure it results in you taking steps back away from them. Not forward.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Nothing to forgive. My kids having gone to public school have been exposed to such so there is no fear. For those who have had limited exposure, fear of the unknown is natural. There may come a time they are in the same bathroom as a lesbian and nothing happens. Why? Because being lesbian does not make one a predator. Neither does being a transgendered individual. But I won't judge you for how you feel.

Ok with all due respect ....

You sound so much like a gay advocate I wonder to what degree you are involved in this lifestyle. I mean it just seems to escalate, your distaste for scripture on this matter. Your wanting to embrace this lifestyle as something which needs "defending" I am concerned for you

HAC= primed for gay pedophillia. So it can be more familiar than natural sex, woven into your being as a child. Discussing pent up sex with other men instead of discussing it naturally with women ( not you, just the HAC students in general). Kissing, embracing women was forbidden, women were from another planet so natural sex became something to fear. So they too often "practice" on young teens or barely legal, no difference in my eyes. They are all too young. Their sex experience is limited to their wives.. which they hop on and off of imho.Photos of happily married couple kissing can cause uproar, and lame excuses are given in defense of being offended by what they cannot grasp.

Adultery is a walk in the park compared to the destroying of the soul homosexuality unleashes. YEARS to recover from, even without attraction issues. Mutual touching? YEARS at minimum. Salvation helps but it never goes away, hence the warning "it destroys both body and soul"
All sexual perversions do this to some degree. Being primed to be a gay pedophile has it's drawbacks. Many people have experienced similar,(not that I know what youve been through) but this perversion is not confined to HAC's abuse, obviously. Sodomites/Homosexuals are influencing you bigtime, please steer clear of them ok. All that can happen is you fall in the mud with them. You are not grounded in scripture.

They have an uncontrolled sex addiction that has defined their very being, and it will escalate further. Children will be touched and all that comes with it as their sex addiction advances because people harbor and embrace it along with them. Not our right to hurt people like that. It's cruel to lead them to damnation

Openly gay people, by their own definition, want to push their sexual deviancy onto children. Just because Adults are also the recipients of this sex abuse doesn't change it. It just means their soul is so dead that they are becoming like animals, sharing and pushing their deviant sexual appetities on to everyone. The fact is Children are being groomed aka openly molested by these 'Out of the Closet" gays. Remember this comes from the guy who lays on the couch with his buddy cuddling, and who skinny dips in the American River with male friends. So if I notice, maybe that means it's too far gone, who knows. Cause i am suppose to be much worse than everyone else. if you want to think of it that way, just whatever way, ensure it results in you taking steps back away from them. Not forward.

Funny thing. You seem to have much more info about the gay lifestyle than I do yet you are concerned about me being involved in that lifestyle?  ???

If I defend women's rights, would that mean I am acting like a woman? If I defend ethnic rights, does that mean I rescind my white ethnicity? If I believe that Muslims should have the right to practice their religion in this country, does this mean I am a follower of Islam?

 

[Biker]

Funny thing. You seem to have much more info about the gay lifestyle than I do yet you are concerned about me being involved in that lifestyle?  ???

I live in California remember so your speech seems right on par to the gay advocate, I mean you are really good at it.
Involved in the lifestyle doesn't necessarily mean taking part in the act, it can mean to start defending them in their "marches" and so on.

If I defend women's rights, would that mean I am acting like a woman? If I defend ethnic rights, does that mean I rescind my white ethnicity? If I believe that Muslims should have the right to practice their religion in this country, does this mean I am a follower of Islam?

Again, you actually talk like a gay advocate, you've adopted their lingo and manipulation tactics. It's far beyond defending them

Hollywood area in Southern Calif is MUCH more conservative than Northern California.Homos are all over the place here. Can't go to the Mall, shopping, or anywhere without running into their X rated perverse sexuality being pushed via some public x rated display. So yeah, I may know more than you but it benefits me...zero

The point is when you get so enmeshed in defending evil, it is what you become. To what extent I can only play it safe and assume the worst and advise you that way, cause obviously I wouldn't know. You don't call it sin but "issues". Then you say you are not judging this or that person knowing full well a Christian must judge in order to even be a Christian. If you don't want to be a Christian, then I suggest you get on your knees and pray for God to change your heart. Cause you cannot do it. Time is short

We have commands to treat our eternal family in a different way than we do outsiders. We are commanded to judge to know who these people are.'Christians" have no right to take on the world's verbage then defend sin. Family dysfunctional cycles repeat themselves unless they are stopped. We become what we've been primed to be, even if it isn't to be a full fledged child molester but the lesser, to defend them endlessly.
Train a child up and he will go and when he is old, he will not depart. Sometimes worldly views can change it, but salvation is the eternal cure

Many will call on the Father while he says "I never knew you". You and I don't need to be in that group, we know better. And we know better than to not call sin what it is, Sin. It defferentiates us from unbelievers. Just like any other sin, it doesn't define us. We call them sodomites or homosexuals per scripture and we use the definition thereof. After conversion, we are molded to Christ. So we don't treat people badly as a rule, start making snide comments in posts or in real life. We become Christ like and do what is necessary to lead others to the path, call out sin that is pushed upon us, and explain why it damns and how the Eternal Father has a plan to save us. Hopefully this makes sense despite the ramblings

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Funny thing. You seem to have much more info about the gay lifestyle than I do yet you are concerned about me being involved in that lifestyle?  ???

I live in California remember so your speech seems right on par to the gay advocate, I mean you are really good at it.
Involved in the lifestyle doesn't necessarily mean taking part in the act, it can mean to start defending them in their "marches" and so on.

If I defend women's rights, would that mean I am acting like a woman? If I defend ethnic rights, does that mean I rescind my white ethnicity? If I believe that Muslims should have the right to practice their religion in this country, does this mean I am a follower of Islam?

Again, you actually talk like a gay advocate, you've adopted their lingo and manipulation tactics. It's far beyond defending them

Hollywood area in Southern Calif is MUCH more conservative than Northern California.Homos are all over the place here. Can't go to the Mall, shopping, or anywhere without running into their X rated perverse sexuality being pushed via some public x rated display. So yeah, I may know more than you but it benefits me...zero

The point is when you get so enmeshed in defending evil, it is what you become. To what extent I can only play it safe and assume the worst and advise you that way, cause obviously I wouldn't know. You don't call it sin but "issues". Then you say you are not judging this or that person knowing full well a Christian must judge in order to even be a Christian. If you don't want to be a Christian, then I suggest you get on your knees and pray for God to change your heart. Cause you cannot do it. Time is short

We have commands to treat our eternal family in a different way than we do outsiders. We are commanded to judge to know who these people are.'Christians" have no right to take on the world's verbage then defend sin. Family dysfunctional cycles repeat themselves unless they are stopped. We become what we've been primed to be, even if it isn't to be a full fledged child molester but the lesser, to defend them endlessly.
Train a child up and he will go and when he is old, he will not depart. Sometimes worldly views can change it, but salvation is the eternal cure

Many will call on the Father while he says "I never knew you". You and I don't need to be in that group, we know better. And we know better than to not call sin what it is, Sin. It defferentiates us from unbelievers. Just like any other sin, it doesn't define us. We call them sodomites or homosexuals per scripture and we use the definition thereof. After conversion, we are molded to Christ. So we don't treat people badly as a rule, start making snide comments in posts or in real life. We become Christ like and do what is necessary to lead others to the path, call out sin that is pushed upon us, and explain why it damns and how the Eternal Father has a plan to save us. Hopefully this makes sense despite the ramblings

Jesus was an advocate against those who were lambasted by the religious, even when the person was in the wrong. He didn't offer condemnation but rather instructed AFTER the defense, not to live the sinful lifestyle.

Advocating for gay marriage does not necessarily mean one condones the act of homosexuality. Advocating for gay marriage can be about human rights, the legal right to make wrong choices and not limit the choices of others because of my personal moral code. Personally, I believe that since Jesus came to minister to those marginalized by society that in supporting THE LEGALITY of gay marriage, it is helping adapt a human right to a group who is being marginalized.

If you think my intentions are any deeper than that, then you are mistaken.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

The times are quickly changing.

2008 philosophy of sexuality
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/jan/03/paedophilia-bringing-dark-desires-light

I read the article.  Yes...you can always find some goofball that will say there is no harm.  Not surprising the one quoted is an advocate of pedophilia. I will still maintain that these folks are far from the norm. They will continue to be since there are real victims to their crimes.  I have no problem with a person that believes homosexuality is a sin based on scripture but I do take exception when homosexuality is considered or implied to be a greater sin than other sin and especially when one tries to compare it to a sin/crime such as pedophilia.

I hope you are right...but I don't think you are....the OP's article is just the first step in the long process of pushing for some type acceptance. Liberals are patient and persistent.

 

[prophet]

Back in '14, in the middle of the fight for Indiana's Traditional Marriage Amendment, I submitted this letter to the editors of most major Indiana papers.  Many ran it.  You can imagine the response......


Letter to the EditorSubmitted: June 28, 2014

Who’s Next in Line?

So you are open-minded to the idea of homosexual marriage?  Prepare to open your mind a bit more.

Before you pat yourself on the back for being more tolerant than your forefathers, more enlightened than your great-grandparents, and wiser than the Bible, you might want to consider the long line of endless perversions waiting in excited anticipation for the courts to decide if homosexual marriage will be legalized in Indiana. After all, if a person’s sexual perversion – or for the politically correct, sexual preference – cannot be discriminated against, then understand, there is a multitude of perversions waiting in line behind the smiling sodomite couples.  All of these “preferences” are going to eventually demand to be legalized, embraced and tolerated as normal. 

LGBT stand for lesbian/gay/bisexual/transgender.  What is a transgender?  A man wakes up one day and decides he is really a woman trapped in a man’s body.  He is more comfortable using the woman’s bathroom at your hometown restaurant or the girl’s dressing room at your local hometown swimming pool.  Who are you to discriminate?  Don’t worry, your nine year old daughter will be just fine showering beside him.  Remember, you are open-minded. 

Bisexual?  A man wants to add a gay partner to his traditional marriage.  Who are we to deny him his rights?  A woman wants a wife and three husbands.  Sure, why not?  Maybe she was born that way.  Marry your sister?  Ok, I mean who are we to judge?  In love with your German Shepard?  Come on down to the County Clerk’s office and our open-minded, smiling politicians will help you and Fido fill out the paper work. 

Open-minded Hoosiers might want to check out the newest group fighting for acceptance: minor-attracted adults!  Yep, pedophiles want their rights also.  Google MMAs and do your homework, Indiana.   

Bottom line?  You cannot legally sanction one level of perversion and then deny the same rights to the next.  And there is a long, long line of “next”.

Bisexuals? That might be a legitimate observation. Transgendered? Total ignorance. Teenagers are not killing themselves because "one day they woke up and decided they didn't like their gender." Dude, these kids are being bullied, threatened and confused about what they feel which leads to depression and suicide. It is believed most of the suicides are because they don't know how to deal with these issues, both their feelings as well as their victimization by their church, parents, peers and bullies. It's a whole heck a lot more complicated than an overnight decision.

We call it "thinning the herd".

 

[Biker]

Jesus was an advocate against those who were lambasted by the religious, even when the person was in the wrong. He didn't offer condemnation but rather instructed AFTER the defense, not to live the sinful lifestyle.

Unfricken believable. You have actually cut the scripture verse in half to make it say the exact opposite!!
Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
No condemnation to those who walk AFTER THE SPIRIT, NOT THE FLESH
Seriously, you need to stay away from this group.
They have nothing to offer you but the exact thing you push onto them- Eternal hellfire. You seem nice, what is all of this crazy stuff?

Advocating for gay marriage does not necessarily mean one condones the act of homosexuality. Advocating for gay marriage can be about human rights, the legal right to make wrong choices and not limit the choices of others because of my personal moral code.

No such thing as gay marriage, you know that. A marriage is a holy institution created, just as we were, by God which involves ONE man and ONE woman. So promote the truthful definition of marriage. You've chosen a specific besetting sin, then attempted to exploit the group that is grappling with it. It is not fair to target them like that, why do you have such little respect for them?

There is no human right to sodomize your same gender. Nor any rights which link to this abomination making them better than any other person grappling with some sex sin. Those that screw dogs don't get special rights either (even though that is better) nor adulterers, or any other perversion conjured up.

your "personal moral code"? Christians have no personal moral code. We heed Scripture ..aka the truth.

Personally, I believe that since Jesus came to minister to those marginalized by society that in supporting THE LEGALITY of gay marriage, it is helping adapt a human right to a group who is being marginalized.

It is their inalienable HUMAN RIGHT to have a Christian tell them the truth so they can avoid hellfire. Live in truth, peace and within a real family
I am sorry for people who are marginalized but after being treated that way, the last thing they need is to be damned to hell. They were marginalized probably because they are weak, and people tend to pray on the weak.

If you think my intentions are any deeper than that, then you are mistaken.

ok

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Unfricken believable. You have actually cut the scripture verse in half to make it say the exact opposite!!
Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
No condemnation to those who walk AFTER THE SPIRIT, NOT THE FLESH

Yet Jesus didn't condemn the GUILTY adulterous woman:

Jesus stood up and said to her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more.”

Seriously, you need to stay away from this group.
They have nothing to offer you but the exact thing you push onto them- Eternal hellfire. You seem nice, what is all of this crazy stuff?

I have no idea what you mean.

No such thing as gay marriage, you know that. A marriage is a holy institution created, just as we were, by God which involves ONE man and ONE woman. So promote the truthful definition of marriage. You've chosen a specific besetting sin, then attempted to exploit the group that is grappling with it. It is not fair to target them like that, why do you have such little respect for them?

There are two aspects of marriage, one in a covenant relationship in which God "joined together" and the other involving the legality of the state. It is discriminatory to forbid the state-sanctioned gay marriage based on religious belief. It is not really that complicated.

There is no human right to sodomize your same gender. Nor any rights which link to this abomination making them better than any other person grappling with some sex sin. Those that screw dogs don't get special rights either (even though that is better) nor adulterers, or any other perversion conjured up.

Consenting adults should have the legal right to have sex with one another. This includes adultery and prostitution. Again, LEGALLY. It IS a matter of human rights, the right to choose a sexual partner in which the government should have NO business intruding.

your "personal moral code"? Christians have no personal moral code. We heed Scripture ..aka the truth.

Muslims and Mormons have the same "moral code" which is in line with their personal belief system. Hence the term as it is not solely a Christian or Evangelical position.

It is their inalienable HUMAN RIGHT to have a Christian tell them the truth so they can avoid hellfire. Live in truth, peace and within a real family

I am sorry for people who are marginalized but after being treated that way, the last thing they need is to be damned to hell. They were marginalized probably because they are weak, and people tend to pray on the weak.

Then are you sorry enough to set aside your discriminatory views to help remove that marginalization? Will you stand up for their right as American citizens to marry legally? Will any group in general be more receptive to those that support their views and then be taught the truth in love or will they be more receptive to those who attack their personal rights with perceived vitriol and anger?

 

[subllibrm]

Then are you sorry enough to set aside your discriminatory views to help remove that marginalization? Will you stand up for their right as American citizens to marry legally? Will any group in general be more receptive to those that support their views and then be taught the truth in love or will they be more receptive to those who attack their personal rights with perceived vitriol and anger?

Help me out here Dan. After all the dust settles and same sex "marriage" is the law of the land, will my refusal to recognize their relationship as a biblical marriage be marginalizing and be perceived as vitriol and anger?

I don't recognize cohabitation as a legitimate arrangement. Am I guilty of marginalizing those who choose to shack up? Is holding this view accurately perceived as vitriol and anger?

There is no slippery slope left. We are at the bottom.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Then are you sorry enough to set aside your discriminatory views to help remove that marginalization? Will you stand up for their right as American citizens to marry legally? Will any group in general be more receptive to those that support their views and then be taught the truth in love or will they be more receptive to those who attack their personal rights with perceived vitriol and anger?

Help me out here Dan. After all the dust settles and same sex "marriage" is the law of the land, will my refusal to recognize their relationship as a biblical marriage be marginalizing and be perceived as vitriol and anger?

In my opinion, no, I don't feel your personal belief is marginalizing homosexual's rights nor should belief that homosexuality be deemed sinful be considered vitriol and anger. This is about the individual rights of certain citizens, not about the morality of their actions.

I don't recognize cohabitation as a legitimate arrangement. Am I guilty of marginalizing those who choose to shack up? Is holding this view accurately perceived as vitriol and anger?

Again, I don't believe so. Now if you try to make that belief the law of the land based on religious beliefs and use your anger in protest, that would obviously change the dynamic but simply because of your belief and even the vocal expression of such does not make one angry.

When I used that term, I had the likes of the Phelps' gang in mind.

There is no slippery slope left. We are at the bottom.

Concerning sexuality, perhaps. Concerning individual rights and freedoms, perhaps the opposite is true.

 

[subllibrm]

Then are you sorry enough to set aside your discriminatory views to help remove that marginalization? Will you stand up for their right as American citizens to marry legally? Will any group in general be more receptive to those that support their views and then be taught the truth in love or will they be more receptive to those who attack their personal rights with perceived vitriol and anger?

Help me out here Dan. After all the dust settles and same sex "marriage" is the law of the land, will my refusal to recognize their relationship as a biblical marriage be marginalizing and be perceived as vitriol and anger?

In my opinion, no, I don't feel your personal belief is marginalizing homosexual's rights nor should belief that homosexuality be deemed sinful be considered vitriol and anger. This is about the individual rights of certain citizens, not about the morality of their actions.

I don't recognize cohabitation as a legitimate arrangement. Am I guilty of marginalizing those who choose to shack up? Is holding this view accurately perceived as vitriol and anger?

Again, I don't believe so. Now if you try to make that belief the law of the land based on religious beliefs and use your anger in protest, that would obviously change the dynamic but simply because of your belief and even the vocal expression of such does not make one angry.

When I used that term, I had the likes of the Phelps' gang in mind.

There is no slippery slope left. We are at the bottom.

Concerning sexuality, perhaps. Concerning individual rights and freedoms, perhaps the opposite is true.

And every man did what was right in his own eyes. Not my idea of progress.

 

[The Rogue Tomato]

There are two aspects of marriage, one in a covenant relationship in which God "joined together" and the other involving the legality of the state. It is discriminatory to forbid the state-sanctioned gay marriage based on religious belief. It is not really that complicated.

It is complicated, because we're not only dealing with civil law, we're dealing with definitions.  Although I agree with you in principle that there should be some civil union equivalent for gays if they want it, I still think we should have two different terms for marriage vs. gay civil unions. 

Why?  Because words mean things, or at least they should.  The example I always use is, if gays want to redefine "marriage" to include same-sex couples, then I want to redefine "lesbian" to include heterosexual males.  What do you think would be the reaction of the gay community if such an effort actually gained traction?  They'd be outraged, I'm sure, because they wouldn't like to have their term changed into some mushy catch-all definition that co-opts the word "lesbian" for uses other than how it was intended. 

I would argue the same if there was some national movement to allow the religious term "The Trinity" to include the possibility of it referring to two pigs and a goat.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Then are you sorry enough to set aside your discriminatory views to help remove that marginalization? Will you stand up for their right as American citizens to marry legally? Will any group in general be more receptive to those that support their views and then be taught the truth in love or will they be more receptive to those who attack their personal rights with perceived vitriol and anger?

Help me out here Dan. After all the dust settles and same sex "marriage" is the law of the land, will my refusal to recognize their relationship as a biblical marriage be marginalizing and be perceived as vitriol and anger?

In my opinion, no, I don't feel your personal belief is marginalizing homosexual's rights nor should belief that homosexuality be deemed sinful be considered vitriol and anger. This is about the individual rights of certain citizens, not about the morality of their actions.

I don't recognize cohabitation as a legitimate arrangement. Am I guilty of marginalizing those who choose to shack up? Is holding this view accurately perceived as vitriol and anger?

Again, I don't believe so. Now if you try to make that belief the law of the land based on religious beliefs and use your anger in protest, that would obviously change the dynamic but simply because of your belief and even the vocal expression of such does not make one angry.

When I used that term, I had the likes of the Phelps' gang in mind.

There is no slippery slope left. We are at the bottom.

Concerning sexuality, perhaps. Concerning individual rights and freedoms, perhaps the opposite is true.

And every man did what was right in his own eyes. Not my idea of progress.

Then you need to blame the founding fathers of this country who were opposed to religious discrimination, you know the ones who promoted "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Fifty years ago, if you had told my grandmother's generation that homosexuality would be accepted and gay marriage...an oxymoron, I know...would be accepted as normal they would have laughed you to scorn and perhaps demanded a psych evaluation.

Exact reaction you get today if you say the same things about Pedophila.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

As has been stated before, gay marriage isn't just about gay marriage...it's the latest club with which to discriminate against and violate the rights of evangelical Christians!

http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/04/27/todds-american-dispatch-franklin-graham-defends-christian-bakery-persecuted-lgbt