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Ransom said:
I said weeks ago:



Bruh is, of course, oblivious to reality.
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And I remember that spot on re-direct too, but today is another round of regurgitation recycle argumentation from our resident conspiracy theorist, lol.
 
subllibrm said:
So the doctor behind the opioid epidemic is a CIA operative?
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:-) no. You said define and I was only giving you one agency. I can give you more but at the moment I’m watching tv with the ole lady. As I said I will try to find the time to give a few more.

Ever heard of MKUltra? Go ahead and look it up. Let all of us know what you find.
 
ALAYMAN said:
I am at ground zero for the opioid epidemic, have watched multiple documentaries and read a great book which I would highly recommend (Dreamland) to see how that process of infiltration by the Mexican cartels worked in conjunction with big Pharma. There certainly is a conflict of interest in some of the executive appointment decisions from the government. That doesn’t rise to the level of conspiracy though. As subllibrm said, negligence.
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This was a huge plot by Purdue Pharma and they paid the doctor well. Sat down with him more than once and had conversations with him.
 
ALAYMAN said:
There certainly is a conflict of interest in some of the executive appointment decisions from the government. That doesn’t rise to the level of conspiracy though. As subllibrm said, negligence.
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"I would say that you have fallen into the commonest fallacy of all in dealing with social and economic subjects--the 'devil theory.'"

"Huh?"

"You have attributed conditions of villainy that simply result from stupidity."​

--Robert A. Heinlein, "Logic of Empire"
 
Ransom said:
I said weeks ago:



Bruh is, of course, oblivious to reality.
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Ok, tell me some of the good stuff they do. Specific agencies and the stories of them helping average Americans.
 
Bruh said:
Ok, tell me some of the good stuff they do. Specific agencies and the stories of them helping average Americans.
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No, you're the one who asserts that the government only does evil all the time. It's up to you to convince me. :ROFLMAO:
 
Bruh said:
This was a huge plot by Purdue Pharma and they paid the doctor well. Sat down with him more than once and had conversations with him.
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OK, let me throw you an bone. Purdue Pharma conspired to cover up the results of their addictive drug in order to pursue profits. Some in the medical community complied. It is possible that some in FDA also went against “best practice”, or other ethical violations. But to imply that there was criminal activity within government agencies requires that you provide a burden of proof. Otherwise, kookery.
 
Ok, tell me some of the good stuff they do.
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OK, I'll throw a bone too.

The government prosecutes murderers.

I think we can agree that arresting, trying, and incarcerating criminals is "good stuff."

Now, you're stuck with the consequences of your own logic. If one doctor can be "the government" and make the whole shebang untrustworthy, then one competent district attorney makes them competent and righteous.

I don't even have to provide a second example; by your logic, one suffices. You either have to concede that the government is good (and you're stuck in a contradiction), or admit that your premise was faulty to begin with. Your move, logic boy.
 
Ransom said:
No, you're the one who asserts that the government only does evil all the time. It's up to you to convince me. :ROFLMAO:
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Give me names of politicians that do not take any money from lobbyists.
 
ALAYMAN said:
OK, let me throw you a bone. Purdue Pharma conspired to cover up the results of their addictive drug in order to pursue profits. Some in the medical community complied. It is possible that some in FDA also went against “best practice”, or other ethical violations. But to imply that there was criminal activity within government agencies requires that you provide a burden of proof. Otherwise, kookery.
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Ok I believe I’m beginning to understand you and others better. Correct me if I’m wrong.

Something like Epstein and the way he died. The FBI told us that he committed suicide and because of this that is what their documentation reveals.

Therefore, we have the truth?
 
Ransom said:
"I would say that you have fallen into the commonest fallacy of all in dealing with social and economic subjects--the 'devil theory.'"​
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"Huh?"​
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"You have attributed conditions of villainy that simply result from stupidity."​

--Robert A. Heinlein, "Logic of Empire"
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This would apply quite well regarding those who are convinced that Elon Musk is the devil. I shall be appropriating this quote for future use.
 
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