Please Define CCM

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I contend that it cannot be done.

I only ask because I can't get my head around the idea posited here that "In Christ Alone" is equated to "The Harlem Shake" because both are CCM (hey,don't blame me, it wasn't my equation/conclusion).

On a recent thread someone mentioned the words of the Supreme Court justice on the subject of obscenity "I can't define it but I know it when I see it". This seems to be a very real method of defining CCM "I can't define it but I know when I hear it". Resulting in the ridiculous conclusion noted above.
 
Is there really anyone who doesn't know what CCM is?
It's labeled pretty clearly in bookstores.

I think this is rather spurious.

Wikipedia:
Contemporary Christian music (or CCM—and occasionally "inspirational music") is a genre of modern popular music which is lyrically focused on matters concerned with the Christian faith. It formed as those affected by the 1960s Jesus movement revival began to express themselves in a more contemporary style of music than the hymns, Gospel and Southern Gospel music that was prevalent in the church at the time. Today, the term is typically used to refer to pop, rock, or praise & worship styles.
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subllibrm said:
I contend that it cannot be done.
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"Contemporary Christian Music" is music,  generally composed and produced by Christians for Christians to use for personal or corporate worship or enjoyment, in several contemporary musical genres, and the lyrics of which deal with subjects of concern to the Christian faith.

"In Christ Alone" was composed in 2001 by Keith Getty and Stuart Townend, two prominent Christian songwriters from the United Kingdom. It is a folk-rock song influenced by Irish music. Its lyrics are essentially a creed concerning the sufficiency of Christ's atonement. It is, therefore, contemporary Christian music by definition.

"Harlem Shake" is a dance single composed in 2012 by the American DJ Baauer. Its lyrics consist exclusively of repeted samples of someone saying "con los terroristas" and "do the Harlem shake." It was meant for dancing to, not worship, and is only notable because it became the basis of an Internet fad. "Harlem Shake" is not, by definition, contemporary Christian music.

See? Not only can it be defined, but the definition can actually be used to figure out what is, or is not, CCM. Someone who seriously thinks "Harlem Shake" qualifies (merely because someone made a meme video at their church) isn't playing with a full deck.
 
Ransom said:
subllibrm said:
I contend that it cannot be done.
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"Contemporary Christian Music" is music,  generally composed and produced by Christians for Christians to use for personal or corporate worship or enjoyment, in several contemporary musical genres, and the lyrics of which deal with subjects of concern to the Christian faith.
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So Patch the Pirate and Majesty Music are CCM! ;)
 
Darkwing Duck said:
Is there really anyone who doesn't know what CCM is?
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Apparently there are people who think it is more than it is.

Darkwing Duck said:
It's labeled pretty clearly in bookstores.
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Is "The Harlem Shake" in that section?  ;D

Darkwing Duck said:
I think this is rather spurious.
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Thank you , I made it myself.  :)

Wikipedia:
Contemporary Christian music (or CCM—and occasionally "inspirational music") is a genre of modern popular music which is lyrically focused on matters concerned with the Christian faith. It formed as those affected by the 1960s Jesus movement revival began to express themselves in a more contemporary style of music than the hymns, Gospel and Southern Gospel music that was prevalent in the church at the time. Today, the term is typically used to refer to pop, rock, or praise & worship styles.
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So "In Christ Alone" isn't CCM.  :-\

Wikipedia:
<snip> praise & worship styles.
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Which is in and of itself is a rather poor definition.
 
subllibrm said:
So Patch the Pirate and Majesty Music are CCM! ;)
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Could be. Perhaps someone with a more sophisticated ear could chime in, but Majesty Music doesn't sound all that different from the choral music I sing regularly at my church, only our songleaders aren't afraid of syncopation or a beat. And Patch the Pirate just sounds like regular old folk-influenced children's music. Neither is what I recognize as traditional church hymnody.
 
CCM is music that is:

Christian = should be self explanatory

Contemporary = a music style popular in the church at the same time it is popular in the secular entertainment industry

Music = again, should be self explanatory

There are many music styles that are currently popular in the secular music industry. Any of those could be defined as CCM if there is a Christian message in the music/song.

I, largely due to my advanced age, prefer the older style of music. I also like Country Western music, so Hank William's "I saw the light" and Josh Turner's "Long Black Train" appeal to me.

There is no such thing as "right" or "wrong" when it comes to Christian music. If the music, regardless of style, is conducive to your personal worship, and draws your heart to the Lord, it is "good" music.

Our church has four services on Sunday morning. The first is the "Traditional" service, full of older people, like me, who enjoy the old hymns of the faith.

The second service is the Spanish Language service (our area of Texas is 91% Hispanic) which uses typically Hispanic style music.

At the same time as the Spanish service we have a GYM (God, You, & Me) service which is more of a coffee house type service using mostly low key more modern music forms.

The last service is the Contemporary service. The music is mostly CCM.

Even though I prefer the Traditional service, there is no reason to attack the others. They create an open heart toward God and draw the sinner to the Savior. It is wicked to call that "wrong."

:)
 
Thomas Cassidy said:
CCM is music that is:

Christian = should be self explanatory

Contemporary = a music style popular in the church at the same time it is popular in the secular entertainment industry

Music = again, should be self explanatory

There are many music styles that are currently popular in the secular music industry. Any of those could be defined as CCM if there is a Christian message in the music/song.

I, largely due to my advanced age, prefer the older style of music. I also like Country Western music, so Hank William's "I saw the light" and Josh Turner's "Long Black Train" appeal to me.

There is no such thing as "right" or "wrong" when it comes to Christian music. If the music, regardless of style, is conducive to your personal worship, and draws your heart to the Lord, it is "good" music.

Our church has four services on Sunday morning. The first is the "Traditional" service, full of older people, like me, who enjoy the old hymns of the faith.

The second service is the Spanish Language service (our area of Texas is 91% Hispanic) which uses typically Hispanic style music.

At the same time as the Spanish service we have a GYM (God, You, & Me) service which is more of a coffee house type service using mostly low key more modern music forms.

The last service is the Contemporary service. The music is mostly CCM.

Even though I prefer the Traditional service, there is no reason to attack the others. They create an open heart toward God and draw the sinner to the Savior. It is wicked to call that "wrong."

:)
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Thomas Cassidy said:
CCM is music that is:

Christian = should be self explanatory

Contemporary = a music style popular in the church at the same time it is popular in the secular entertainment industry

Music = again, should be self explanatory

There are many music styles that are currently popular in the secular music industry. Any of those could be defined as CCM if there is a Christian message in the music/song.

I, largely due to my advanced age, prefer the older style of music. I also like Country Western music, so Hank William's "I saw the light" and Josh Turner's "Long Black Train" appeal to me.

There is no such thing as "right" or "wrong" when it comes to Christian music. If the music, regardless of style, is conducive to your personal worship, and draws your heart to the Lord, it is "good" music.

Our church has four services on Sunday morning. The first is the "Traditional" service, full of older people, like me, who enjoy the old hymns of the faith.

The second service is the Spanish Language service (our area of Texas is 91% Hispanic) which uses typically Hispanic style music.

At the same time as the Spanish service we have a GYM (God, You, & Me) service which is more of a coffee house type service using mostly low key more modern music forms.

The last service is the Contemporary service. The music is mostly CCM.

Even though I prefer the Traditional service, there is no reason to attack the others. They create an open heart toward God and draw the sinner to the Savior. It is wicked to call that "wrong."

:)
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What he said...except for the Hank Williams part!  ;D
 
T-Bone said:
Thomas Cassidy said:
CCM is music that is:

Christian = should be self explanatory

Contemporary = a music style popular in the church at the same time it is popular in the secular entertainment industry

Music = again, should be self explanatory

There are many music styles that are currently popular in the secular music industry. Any of those could be defined as CCM if there is a Christian message in the music/song.

I, largely due to my advanced age, prefer the older style of music. I also like Country Western music, so Hank William's "I saw the light" and Josh Turner's "Long Black Train" appeal to me.

There is no such thing as "right" or "wrong" when it comes to Christian music. If the music, regardless of style, is conducive to your personal worship, and draws your heart to the Lord, it is "good" music.

Our church has four services on Sunday morning. The first is the "Traditional" service, full of older people, like me, who enjoy the old hymns of the faith.

The second service is the Spanish Language service (our area of Texas is 91% Hispanic) which uses typically Hispanic style music.

At the same time as the Spanish service we have a GYM (God, You, & Me) service which is more of a coffee house type service using mostly low key more modern music forms.

The last service is the Contemporary service. The music is mostly CCM.

Even though I prefer the Traditional service, there is no reason to attack the others. They create an open heart toward God and draw the sinner to the Savior. It is wicked to call that "wrong."

:)
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What he said...except for the Hank Williams part!  ;D
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You got a problem with Hank Williams?

ChuckBob
 
ChuckBob said:
T-Bone said:
Thomas Cassidy said:
CCM is music that is:

Christian = should be self explanatory

Contemporary = a music style popular in the church at the same time it is popular in the secular entertainment industry

Music = again, should be self explanatory

There are many music styles that are currently popular in the secular music industry. Any of those could be defined as CCM if there is a Christian message in the music/song.

I, largely due to my advanced age, prefer the older style of music. I also like Country Western music, so Hank William's "I saw the light" and Josh Turner's "Long Black Train" appeal to me.

There is no such thing as "right" or "wrong" when it comes to Christian music. If the music, regardless of style, is conducive to your personal worship, and draws your heart to the Lord, it is "good" music.

Our church has four services on Sunday morning. The first is the "Traditional" service, full of older people, like me, who enjoy the old hymns of the faith.

The second service is the Spanish Language service (our area of Texas is 91% Hispanic) which uses typically Hispanic style music.

At the same time as the Spanish service we have a GYM (God, You, & Me) service which is more of a coffee house type service using mostly low key more modern music forms.

The last service is the Contemporary service. The music is mostly CCM.

Even though I prefer the Traditional service, there is no reason to attack the others. They create an open heart toward God and draw the sinner to the Savior. It is wicked to call that "wrong."

:)
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What he said...except for the Hank Williams part!  ;D
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You got a problem with Hank Williams?

ChuckBob
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Sorry... Not a big fan of singers who's voice sounds like someone stepped on the cat's tail. 8)
 
Did I miss somebody actually arguing that musician X performing a sacred song automatically baptizes anything non-sacred they might also have performed?
 
aleshanee said:
i have heard there are people in various remote southern parts of the country who might actually consider a song about a poor rebel soldier to be sacred......
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Well, we'll have to believe that too. After all, southern rustics are the salt of the earth, not like those northern liberal intuhlekshuls amen?
 
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