Pornogrind and American Art (free speech and religion perspectives)

[ALAYMAN]

"The man who killed nine and injured 27 in a mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio, was the lead singer of a ?pornogrind? metal band, a genre defined by its explicit subject matter and themes of gore and violence, specifically sexual violence and necrophilia."

Beware of explicit content at link
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/connor-betts-pornogrind-dayton-murder/

Years ago on the former version of this forum some participants defended a genre of cinema called "torture porn" (think Saw, Hostel, etc).  Now we have gratuitous misogyny being called art/music.  Any Freebirds here think this music genre should be defended?

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[Izdaari]

It's probably even more significant that he was a big Antifa fan. But yeah, a total sicko in more than one way. I prefer relatively wholesome music myself, like regular punk and melal, and k-pop. More k-pop than anything else lately really.

 

[T-Bone]

It's probably even more significant that he was a big Antifa fan. But yeah, a total sicko in more than one way. I prefer relatively wholesome music myself, like regular punk and melal, and k-pop. More k-pop than anything else lately really.

Personally I don't call that music, but that's just me...I like classic rock from the 1970's.  LOL

 

[Izdaari]

It's probably even more significant that he was a big Antifa fan. But yeah, a total sicko in more than one way. I prefer relatively wholesome music myself, like regular punk and melal, and k-pop. More k-pop than anything else lately really.

Personally I don't call that music, but that's just me...I like classic rock from the 1970's.  LOL

I like that too, particularly since I'm HS class of 1972. The music of "Good Morning Vietnam" was like my soundtrack. But not exclusively. I've never allowed myself to get stuck in a particular musical era. I keep up with wbat's currently popular. I don't necessarily like all of it, but some for sure.

 

[ALAYMAN]

It's certainly NOT music, but it is funny how those fans and artists of that
genre which were quoted in the article cited distanced themselves from any culpability for the perverted  trash they produce.

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[Ransom]

Event: Mass shooting. Lots dead, dozens injured.

Fundy response: See, we told you _____music is inappropriate.

 

[ALAYMAN]

Event: Mass shooting. Lots dead, dozens injured.

Fundy response: See, we told you _____music is inappropriate.

Did you even bother to read the linked article?  Was the author that article a Fundy?  Was his main point that certain genres of music/art are innapropriate?

Try and keep up with the adults having a conversation.

 

[Ransom]

I wasn't responding to the article. I was responding to the poster of the article.

"Any Freebirds want to defend pornogrind?"

 

[Twisted]

"Any Freebirds want to defend pornogrind?"

Smellin' would, but he's on tour.

 

[ALAYMAN]

I wasn't responding to the article. I was responding to the poster of the article.

"Any Freebirds want to defend pornogrind?"

The natural answer to that question is either "yes I will defend pornogrind" or "no it is indefensible and I won't even attempt to defend it in the name of art or anything else".  Instead, you chose to use a form of ad hominem and make me the focus of your response.  Par for the course for you, and one of the reasons that this site has slowly but steadily spiraled downward for sometime.

 

[Izdaari]

I won't defend it either. I can't. I'm not familiar enough with the genre to know what I'd be talking about.

 

[Ransom]

The natural answer to that question is either "yes I will defend pornogrind" or "no it is indefensible and I won't even attempt to defend it in the name of art or anything else".

Actually, the natural answer to that question is, "Pornogrind may or may not be an appropriate art form, but given the perpetrator's radical leftism and Antifa sympathies, it's almost certainly not to blame for him committing mass murder, and is beside the point."

 

[prophet]

The natural answer to that question is either "yes I will defend pornogrind" or "no it is indefensible and I won't even attempt to defend it in the name of art or anything else".

Actually, the natural answer to that question is, "Pornogrind may or may not be an appropriate art form, but given the perpetrator's radical leftism and Antifa sympathies, it's almost certainly not to blame for him committing mass murder, and is beside the point."

I have to go with ALAYMAN on this one.
His influences bleed into 1, here.
Deviancy in one area tends to deviancy in another.
Or, Reprobates are "full of all unrighteousness".
And it isn't about a music style, that's just not addressed in Scripture...no, it's about "porno" in pornogrind, that tells the story.
Bloodlust, pornlust, pedophillia, antifa, far leftism by any name, it's all the same root...depravity.

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