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[aleshanee]

Feel free to back up your accusations with quotes of mine.

you challenged me to back up what i said by quoting your posts once before...... remember how that turned out?.......... do i need to post a link to what i said back then to remind you?.......

in the post i was responding to today - which you now feign righteous indignation over as if you were falsly accused - you accused me of having poor reading skills.... .. . does everyone in this big circle of like minded associates you claim to know, have as big a chip on their shoulder as you do?.... doctors who can;t swallow their own medicine?....... ...... ya know... . for an anonymous poster such as yourself to play such the martyr as if he;s bearing a cross on a holy march, is fairly meaningless... ... ..especially when you dish it out as hard as you do....

by the way ... the liberal left.. which you champion by default.. would see what you said about my reading skills as a racist cheap shot - since english was my second language and everybody here knows that...... but it doesn;t bother me in the least since as inadequate as my english skills might be, i am quite certain they are still better than yours....

 

[biscuit1953]

you challenged me to back up what i said by quoting your posts once before...... remember how that turned out?.......... do i need to post a link to what i said back then to remind you?.......

in the post i was responding to today - which you now feign righteous indignation over as if you were falsly accused - you accused me of having poor reading skills.... .. . does everyone in this big circle of like minded associates you claim to know, have as big a chip on their shoulder as you do?.... doctors who can;t swallow their own medicine?....... ...... ya know... . for an anonymous poster such as yourself to play such the martyr as if he;s bearing a cross on a holy march, is fairly meaningless... ... ..especially when you dish it out as hard as you do....

by the way ... the liberal left.. which you champion by default.. would see what you said about my reading skills as a racist cheap shot - since english was my second language and everybody here knows that...... but it doesn;t bother me in the least since as inadequate as my english skills might be, i am quite certain they are still better than yours....

I probably should have known but I didn't realize that English is your second language. I think you carry on well with English not being the primary one.

 

[aleshanee]

I probably should have known but I didn't realize that English is your second language. I think you carry on well with English not being the primary one.

thank you... ..learning languages is supposedly one of my gifts.... .. but keeping them sorted out and from running over into each other is a challenge..... . i spoke spanish only until i started 1st grade.... i understood a lot of english words from watching tv but didn;t learn to converse in english until i was in school and with other english speaking kids..... my mom spoke spanish and english and also could understand but not speak, navajo... but only spoke spanish at home... so even though i was learning english i kept speaking spanish at home until i came here... ... then after that it was mostly english but then also started learning japanese from japanese friends i met at school who spoke only japanese at home.... i took french in high school but rarely ever use it.... then started learning hawaiian from friends around the same time, but didn;t become fluent in it until i joined a hawaiian language sunday school class which i have been a part of for a long time now.... tried to learn navajo also in recent years - since it is technically the language of my blood.. .. but have even fewer opportunitys to speak and use it than i do french.... 2 of my room mates came here speaking only chinese... but they have learned english from us much faster than i could pick up any chinese from them.. .. ... so i am thinking my ability to learn new languages might now be stretched to it;s limit....

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

If you're not called a bigot by the progressives, a globalist by the bigots, a liberal by the fundamentalists, a fundamentalist by the liberals, an antinomian by the legalists and a legalist by the antinomians, you're doing it wrong.

You are correct as to online interaction.
That also blunts Sub’s assertion that we bring it on ourselves simply by our position.

 

[subllibrm]

You are correct as to online interaction.
That also blunts Sub’s assertion that we bring it on ourselves simply by our position.

My assertion is and has always been that it brought on by association not by position.

I mentioned before that most of us were taught that we have to guard our testimony by avoiding any appearance of evil. That led to some ridiculous rules against: wearing nylons, not wearing nylons, roller skating, bowling, dancing, beards, wire rimmed glasses ad infinitum. While those are ridiculous, the concept has validity (and scriptural support) and can and should be applied to who we “associate” with. The current method of communicating one’s thoughts, opinions and positions is not in alignment with how we are instructed to interact with a lost and dying world. Way back when, I mentioned that phrases like libtard and feminazi have no place in the vocabulary of a child of God. There is a war on and I believe that we are losing it because we have abandoned the Biblical mandate contained in the great commission. Instead we have taken a worldly (remember when that was bad?) and flesh driven approach to getting our way.

So let me flip the question over. Instead of why have we aligned ourselves with a worldly system and movement? How about why have we allowed the world into God’s army? I expect that the response will be that we have done neither.

Nevertheless “guilt by association” is still part of how the enemy (satan) destroys our testimony. No one cares that we did or didn’t leave the reunion when Uncle Buck broke out the beer. They do care when we adopt the harsh angry vocabulary of the world. We can’t expect them to listen to us about policy or position if we don’t care enough communicate in a mature respectful manner.

 

[subllibrm]

you challenged me to back up what i said by quoting your posts once before...... remember how that turned out?.......... do i need to post a link to what i said back then to remind you?......

Sure. Feel free.

 

[aleshanee]

I’m sorry that there is such poor reading comprehension on the FFF.

here;s the most recent one right here.. ^^^ and it;s the very same post that i responded to when i said you were blaming your lack of communication skills on my poor reading skills..... ...and the post you seem to be denying now by pretending you didn;t say anything that warranted my response..... .

do you actually read before you post?... .. are you so wrapped up in yourself you can;t even see or hear how you react with others?...... you are nothing but a hypocrit... .. a true pharisee.... . . you talk about how christians should not be associated with the worldy and yet you admit you get a lot of your material through facebook... .... i am not a member of facebook and can;t even see it on my computer... but i do know you have to be a member of it to get the things off of it you claim you do....

you say christians should not be associated with those who use bad vocabulary.... and yet the things you say about others here and the insinuations you make about them are far worse than simple vocabulary.... .. obsessions with a few choice "bad" words but ignoring the actual meaning of other words, is another thing left over from the hyper-fundy world you apparently have failed to recover from yet... the idea that the image is more important than the facts and the content, still seems to be an integral part of your thinking....... ..

but what i also hear in your words ..as someone who lives on the other side of world from you in a totally different culture... is that you think all "christian" vocabulary should comply with the accepted stereo-typical, white american heartland vocabulary... ....could that be why the people you complained about calling you a racial bigot, said it?....... ... did you even wonder why they called you that?..... or did you automatically write it off as them being bad people and you being good... and leave it at that?... ......did you thank God you were not like one of them?.....

and where did this come from about it only being the manner in which christians post some of their thoughts, opinions and positions?... and not the positions themselves?..... ... your posts here have given people the impressions that it is their positions and opinions you object to.... not just and not even the manner in which they are delivered..... and in order to make your points you have repeated and reposted viral propaganda from the left wing media and acted as if you consider it truth...... that;s why so many here have objected to your posts...... ..but of course you have tried to make yourself a martyr over the objections we have made - as if disagreement and push back against your accusations of us equates to you being persecuted and abused.......

personally... and this is just an opinion.... is i think all this thrashing around and carrying on you do here is for no other reason except that mike pence did not get the republican nomination.... and you think he should have... ... ...i know someone at church who talks to others the same way you do about trump ...and she;s always telling us what she thinks is bad about him too.... and she;s also mad at us for supporting him.... except she is honest enough to admit that her real beef is that too many conservative christians rejected pence... ....like you - she sometimes acts like she hates the rest of us.... and probably would have left for a different church or sunday school by now to get away from us - except ours is the only hawaiian language class like it and she doesn;t want to leave that behind.... . ... what;s your reason for sticking around?......

 

[aleshanee]

now as for what i asked you about when i said - - "did you rmember how it turned out the last time you challenged me to prove something?".... in the "does tone matter?" thread, you challenged me to prove you said certain vile things about other people here.....

Could you point to anything vile I directed at any individual here? And my OP on Donald Trump I made a statement. From there on, the assumptions about my voting and political leanings were coming fast and furious. The reason I didn't reveal my voting record was because the responses were more accusations that questions and I didn't feel l that I had any responsibility to "defend" my record against such baseless claims.

and here was my answer.... which you never gave any reply to..... you simply acted .. conveniently.. as if you had never seen it...

from the donald trump thread - post number 24... insinuating trump supporters have sold their souls....


also from the donald trump trump thread - post number 33.... insinuations that we have gay nephews and friends with trans daughters.... and that we would attend their gay and transgendered weddings ....if you had read the forum for a while you would have seen that i left my former church which i had once loved because they began performing gay weddings...

post number 42 from same thread... insinuating those of us on the forum who support trump would also support him shooting someone on 5th avenue...

post number 53..... saying it seems we have all abandoned our own conscience and engaged in tribalism where trump is concerned

post number 82... bringing up our mothers and saying we are acting as if you insulted them.... ..(there is nothing negative you could say about mine that would even come close to what i have said myself.... so that comment was actually laughable)

post number 105... you claim to be seeing tribal impulses here among trump supporters.... i gave up my right to be a member of the tribe i was actually born to in order to be part of a christian family.. why would i choose to join a political tribe?

and then there was the rorsarch test comment... as if you would have any clue how to create one or evaluate someone elses response to one... .... that alone is an insult to someone who has actually been subjected to real rorsarch tests and whose freedom depending on the outcome...

and that;s just from that one thread.... i haven;t even gotten to this one yet or your other threads.... .. do you want me to keep going?..... how are any of the things you said here less vile than a parent accusing school members with being complicit in grooming when they defend the schools action of placing vile and disgusting books supporting alternate lifestyles and of children undergoing sex change surgery in the school library?

you admitted you were laying bait in that thread..... what about this one and the other threads you made?...... if that;s not trollish behavior then what is?...... .... could it be the parents responding to the school board were laying bait for them?..... did the school board take that bait?..... doesn;t matter.... you seem to have swallowed enough of it for all them....

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

My assertion is and has always been that it brought on by association not by position.

I mentioned before that most of us were taught that we have to guard our testimony by avoiding any appearance of evil. That led to some ridiculous rules against: wearing nylons, not wearing nylons, roller skating, bowling, dancing, beards, wire rimmed glasses ad infinitum. While those are ridiculous, the concept has validity (and scriptural support) and can and should be applied to who we “associate” with. The current method of communicating one’s thoughts, opinions and positions is not in alignment with how we are instructed to interact with a lost and dying world. Way back when, I mentioned that phrases like libtard and feminazi have no place in the vocabulary of a child of God. There is a war on and I believe that we are losing it because we have abandoned the Biblical mandate contained in the great commission. Instead we have taken a worldly (remember when that was bad?) and flesh driven approach to getting our way.

So let me flip the question over. Instead of why have we aligned ourselves with a worldly system and movement? How about why have we allowed the world into God’s army? I expect that the response will be that we have done neither.

Nevertheless “guilt by association” is still part of how the enemy (satan) destroys our testimony. No one cares that we did or didn’t leave the reunion when Uncle Buck broke out the beer. They do care when we adopt the harsh angry vocabulary of the world. We can’t expect them to listen to us about policy or position if we don’t care enough communicate in a mature respectful manner.

Why are you transferring to us what you have seen other places online?
We‘ve hashed and rehashed this over and over.
You have not won us over with your brilliant and morally superior arguments.
To quote the lyrics of Disney…a libtard company*…Let it go!

* used merely in an attempt to add a little humor.

 

[Ekklesian]

Way back when, I mentioned that phrases like libtard and feminazi have no place in the vocabulary of a child of God.

'Dogs', 'vipers' and 'swine' it is then.