Question for someone who is still IFB please...

[kaba]

Just curious, if it is so wrong to wear pants, why then do those that just wear dresses, wear pants UNDER their skirts on cold days or when doing activities. wrong is wrong-right?

 

[TheVoice]

Hard to condense this stuff down -

Praise -Yeshua -

It one thing to say God loves.... its another to say that God is love. Do you really not know the difference?

Note I never said the OT says God is love but that the law show us the nature of God is love. Emphasis Added

Praise - Yeshua  -

- I'm not a hyper dispensationalist

Please explain how this is not dispensation thinking -

I hope you realize that Jesus talked of "new commandments". Does that mean there is something MORE than what the Law of God gave to Moses....

Praise-Yeshua -

You're requiring I submit to your own theology when you say such things....

You've made statement like this several times. Twice when I define terms. Please understand that when I define a term I am not saying you have to agree with my definition of the term but rather specifying what I mean as many terms have different meanings to different sections of Christianity - (example - Baptize )
The more specific I am the less we have to rehash what has  already been said.


One big Term we seemed to have disagreed on is Sanctification. I will give three passages of scripture that best represent what I am talking about when I say we must strive for  sanctification. 

1 -Romans 7 - Paul talks about the daily struggle between his flesh and Spirit to do right. 
2 -Hebrews 12: Talks about striving to finish the course God has prepared for us.
3 -2 Timothy 2:19-21 - Talks about our lives being a vessel God can use, but the highest use is  if we are clean.

Maybe I should use other terms like "Waking in the light" but this striving for the perfect will of God is what I most often associate with the word Sanctification. It is defined as set apart for a purpose and I am set apart for HIS service.

Praise-Yeshua -

  John 16:13  Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth:

Do you remember when Jesus said that a man shall live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God? Do you really believe that we have EVERY word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God..... "WRITTEN".... somewhere?

Yes he was being tempted by Satan and said "Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word..."  Yet tell me can you show that those "every word" is the truth referred to in John 16:13 and not the Bible?  In fact Chapter 17 says 2  times (v8,v14) that Jesus gave the disciple God's word  and in verse 17 it says "thy word is truth." 

Praise-Yeshua -

Yes. Christian suffer consequence when they sin. I will also add that Christian suffer when they don't sin. When they are in absolute obedience to Christ..... they still SUFFER.

You seem to be mixing the laws of Reaping and Sowing with the Law "It rains on the Just and the Unjust"  Yes your statement are technically correct and we will all suffer no matter how we live, but I am saying every time we sin we will pay the earthly price.

The Bible says the wages of sin is death. Every time we lie, we kill our honest reputation. The same with any sin. Gluttony makes us fat and Divorce kills our families.  If we sow stealing, we will reap distrust. God may use governments to punish us for sin our he may do it himself. 

The Voice - No. I still have a relationship, but fellowship is dead [John 9:31,1 Peter 3:12] Fellowship is resumed when we confess our sins [1 John 1:9]

Praise-Yeshua - Humm.... so you're no longer treated like a son by the Father? Really? By what means do you have access to God once you sin after being Saved? Isn't it about "relationship"? 

TheVoice - Are you saying that when a  son disobeys  it doesn't affect his fellowship with their Father at all?  Just as a Father might send his son to his room to think on his actions, so God says he will not answer our prayers if we dwell in sin. (Psalm 66:18,1 Peter 3:7)

Also If our focus is only on the World we will not hear HIS still small voice.  Do we stop being his Son because we put Sin before seeking God? No, but we cannot be close to him while putting sin first (James 4:8 )

The Voice - The law is not fleshly!
Praise-Yeshua - I posted a quote from Romans 8:3. I'll do it again and make the applicable part.... really BIG...

Yet you ignore the verse I posted - Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual : but I am carnal, sold under sin



I feel in a way we may agree more then disagree but that we disagree on which comes first the SPIRIT or the WORD.

I am stating that as we study the WORD the SPIRIT works to make us a FINISHED work meet to do the WORK God has prepare for us.  (Ephesians 2:9-11)

It seem (to me at least) that you would contend that without the SPIRIT compelling us we would NEVER go to the WORD in the first place.

Yet even in salvation we see that Faith cometh by hearing the Word of God - (Romans 10:17)

Some final verses -

Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.


Psalms 119:11 – Thy Word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.

James 1:22-25
22But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Hard to condense this stuff down -

Yeshua -

It one thing to say God loves.... its another to say that God is love. Do you really not know the difference?

Note I never said the OT says God is love but that the law show us the nature of God is love. Emphasis Added

Yeshua  -

- I'm not a hyper dispensationalist

Please explain how this is not dispensation thinking -

I hope you realize that Jesus talked of "new commandments". Does that mean there is something MORE than what the Law of God gave to Moses....

Yeshua -

You're requiring I submit to your own theology when you say such things....

You've made statement like this several times. Twice when I define terms. Please understand that when I define a term I am not saying you have to agree with my definition of the term but rather specifying what I mean as many terms have different meanings to different sections of Christianity - (example - Baptize )
The more specific I am the less we have to rehash what has  already been said.


One big Term we seemed to have disagreed on is Sanctification. I will give three passages of scripture that best represent what I am talking about when I say we must strive for  sanctification. 

1 -Romans 7 - Paul talks about the daily struggle between his flesh and Spirit to do right. 
2 -Hebrews 12: Talks about striving to finish the course God has prepared for us.
3 -2 Timothy 2:19-21 - Talks about our lives being a vessel God can use, but the highest use is  if we are clean.

Maybe I should use other terms like "Waking in the light" but this striving for the perfect will of God is what I most often associate with the word Sanctification. It is defined as set apart for a purpose and I am set apart for HIS service.

Yeshua -

  John 16:13  Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth:

Do you remember when Jesus said that a man shall live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God? Do you really believe that we have EVERY word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God..... "WRITTEN".... somewhere?

Yes he was being tempted by Satan and said "Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word..."  Yet tell me can you show that those "every word" is the truth referred to in John 16:13 and not the Bible?  In fact Chapter 17 says 2  times (v8,v14) that Jesus gave the disciple God's word  and in verse 17 it says "thy word is truth." 

Yeshua -

Yes. Christian suffer consequence when they sin. I will also add that Christian suffer when they don't sin. When they are in absolute obedience to Christ..... they still SUFFER.

You seem to be mixing the laws of Reaping and Sowing with the Law "It rains on the Just and the Unjust"  Yes your statement are technically correct and we will all suffer no matter how we live, but I am saying every time we sin we will pay the earthly price.

The Bible says the wages of sin is death. Every time we lie, we kill our honest reputation. The same with any sin. Gluttony makes us fat and Divorce kills our families.  If we sow stealing, we will reap distrust. God may use governments to punish us for sin our he may do it himself. 

The Voice - No. I still have a relationship, but fellowship is dead [John 9:31,1 Peter 3:12] Fellowship is resumed when we confess our sins [1 John 1:9]

Yeshua - Humm.... so you're no longer treated like a son by the Father? Really? By what means do you have access to God once you sin after being Saved? Isn't it about "relationship"? 

TheVoice - Are you saying that when a  son disobeys  it doesn't affect his fellowship with their Father at all?  Just as a Father might send his son to his room to think on his actions, so God says he will not answer our prayers if we dwell in sin. (Psalm 66:18,1 Peter 3:7)

Also If our focus is only on the World we will not hear HIS still small voice.  Do we stop being his Son because we put Sin before seeking God? No, but we cannot be close to him while putting sin first (James 4:8 )

The Voice - The law is not fleshly!
Yeshua - I posted a quote from Romans 8:3. I'll do it again and make the applicable part.... really BIG...

Yet you ignore the verse I posted - Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual : but I am carnal, sold under sin



I feel in a way we may agree more then disagree but that we disagree on which comes first the SPIRIT or the WORD.

I am stating that as we study the WORD the SPIRIT works to make us a FINISHED work meet to do the WORK God has prepare for us.  (Ephesians 2:9-11)

It seem (to me at least) that you would contend that without the SPIRIT compelling us we would NEVER go to the WORD in the first place.

Yet even in salvation we see that Faith cometh by hearing the Word of God - (Romans 10:17)

Some final verses -

Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.


Psalms 119:11 – Thy Word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.

James 1:22-25
22But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

Please don't call me "Yeshua"!!!

I don't even know if I respond to someone that doesn't know what Yeshua means.....

 

[bgwilkinson]

Hard to condense this stuff down -

Yeshua -

It one thing to say God loves.... its another to say that God is love. Do you really not know the difference?

Note I never said the OT says God is love but that the law show us the nature of God is love. Emphasis Added

Yeshua  -

- I'm not a hyper dispensationalist

Please explain how this is not dispensation thinking -

I hope you realize that Jesus talked of "new commandments". Does that mean there is something MORE than what the Law of God gave to Moses....

Yeshua -

You're requiring I submit to your own theology when you say such things....

You've made statement like this several times. Twice when I define terms. Please understand that when I define a term I am not saying you have to agree with my definition of the term but rather specifying what I mean as many terms have different meanings to different sections of Christianity - (example - Baptize )
The more specific I am the less we have to rehash what has  already been said.


One big Term we seemed to have disagreed on is Sanctification. I will give three passages of scripture that best represent what I am talking about when I say we must strive for  sanctification. 

1 -Romans 7 - Paul talks about the daily struggle between his flesh and Spirit to do right. 
2 -Hebrews 12: Talks about striving to finish the course God has prepared for us.
3 -2 Timothy 2:19-21 - Talks about our lives being a vessel God can use, but the highest use is  if we are clean.

Maybe I should use other terms like "Waking in the light" but this striving for the perfect will of God is what I most often associate with the word Sanctification. It is defined as set apart for a purpose and I am set apart for HIS service.

Yeshua -

  John 16:13  Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth:

Do you remember when Jesus said that a man shall live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God? Do you really believe that we have EVERY word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God..... "WRITTEN".... somewhere?

Yes he was being tempted by Satan and said "Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word..."  Yet tell me can you show that those "every word" is the truth referred to in John 16:13 and not the Bible?  In fact Chapter 17 says 2  times (v8,v14) that Jesus gave the disciple God's word  and in verse 17 it says "thy word is truth." 

Yeshua -

Yes. Christian suffer consequence when they sin. I will also add that Christian suffer when they don't sin. When they are in absolute obedience to Christ..... they still SUFFER.

You seem to be mixing the laws of Reaping and Sowing with the Law "It rains on the Just and the Unjust"  Yes your statement are technically correct and we will all suffer no matter how we live, but I am saying every time we sin we will pay the earthly price.

The Bible says the wages of sin is death. Every time we lie, we kill our honest reputation. The same with any sin. Gluttony makes us fat and Divorce kills our families.  If we sow stealing, we will reap distrust. God may use governments to punish us for sin our he may do it himself. 

The Voice - No. I still have a relationship, but fellowship is dead [John 9:31,1 Peter 3:12] Fellowship is resumed when we confess our sins [1 John 1:9]

Yeshua - Humm.... so you're no longer treated like a son by the Father? Really? By what means do you have access to God once you sin after being Saved? Isn't it about "relationship"? 

TheVoice - Are you saying that when a  son disobeys  it doesn't affect his fellowship with their Father at all?  Just as a Father might send his son to his room to think on his actions, so God says he will not answer our prayers if we dwell in sin. (Psalm 66:18,1 Peter 3:7)

Also If our focus is only on the World we will not hear HIS still small voice.  Do we stop being his Son because we put Sin before seeking God? No, but we cannot be close to him while putting sin first (James 4:8 )

The Voice - The law is not fleshly!
Yeshua - I posted a quote from Romans 8:3. I'll do it again and make the applicable part.... really BIG...

Yet you ignore the verse I posted - Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual : but I am carnal, sold under sin



I feel in a way we may agree more then disagree but that we disagree on which comes first the SPIRIT or the WORD.

I am stating that as we study the WORD the SPIRIT works to make us a FINISHED work meet to do the WORK God has prepare for us.  (Ephesians 2:9-11)

It seem (to me at least) that you would contend that without the SPIRIT compelling us we would NEVER go to the WORD in the first place.

Yet even in salvation we see that Faith cometh by hearing the Word of God - (Romans 10:17)

Some final verses -

Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.


Psalms 119:11 – Thy Word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.

James 1:22-25
22But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

Please don't call me "Yeshua"!!!

I don't even know if I respond to someone that doesn't know what Yeshua means.....

Same name as Moses' assistant Joshua.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Hard to condense this stuff down -

Yeshua -

It one thing to say God loves.... its another to say that God is love. Do you really not know the difference?

Note I never said the OT says God is love but that the law show us the nature of God is love. Emphasis Added

Yeshua  -

- I'm not a hyper dispensationalist

Please explain how this is not dispensation thinking -

I hope you realize that Jesus talked of "new commandments". Does that mean there is something MORE than what the Law of God gave to Moses....

Yeshua -

You're requiring I submit to your own theology when you say such things....

You've made statement like this several times. Twice when I define terms. Please understand that when I define a term I am not saying you have to agree with my definition of the term but rather specifying what I mean as many terms have different meanings to different sections of Christianity - (example - Baptize )
The more specific I am the less we have to rehash what has  already been said.


One big Term we seemed to have disagreed on is Sanctification. I will give three passages of scripture that best represent what I am talking about when I say we must strive for  sanctification. 

1 -Romans 7 - Paul talks about the daily struggle between his flesh and Spirit to do right. 
2 -Hebrews 12: Talks about striving to finish the course God has prepared for us.
3 -2 Timothy 2:19-21 - Talks about our lives being a vessel God can use, but the highest use is  if we are clean.

Maybe I should use other terms like "Waking in the light" but this striving for the perfect will of God is what I most often associate with the word Sanctification. It is defined as set apart for a purpose and I am set apart for HIS service.

Yeshua -

  John 16:13  Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth:

Do you remember when Jesus said that a man shall live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God? Do you really believe that we have EVERY word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God..... "WRITTEN".... somewhere?

Yes he was being tempted by Satan and said "Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word..."  Yet tell me can you show that those "every word" is the truth referred to in John 16:13 and not the Bible?  In fact Chapter 17 says 2  times (v8,v14) that Jesus gave the disciple God's word  and in verse 17 it says "thy word is truth." 

Yeshua -

Yes. Christian suffer consequence when they sin. I will also add that Christian suffer when they don't sin. When they are in absolute obedience to Christ..... they still SUFFER.

You seem to be mixing the laws of Reaping and Sowing with the Law "It rains on the Just and the Unjust"  Yes your statement are technically correct and we will all suffer no matter how we live, but I am saying every time we sin we will pay the earthly price.

The Bible says the wages of sin is death. Every time we lie, we kill our honest reputation. The same with any sin. Gluttony makes us fat and Divorce kills our families.  If we sow stealing, we will reap distrust. God may use governments to punish us for sin our he may do it himself. 

The Voice - No. I still have a relationship, but fellowship is dead [John 9:31,1 Peter 3:12] Fellowship is resumed when we confess our sins [1 John 1:9]

Yeshua - Humm.... so you're no longer treated like a son by the Father? Really? By what means do you have access to God once you sin after being Saved? Isn't it about "relationship"? 

TheVoice - Are you saying that when a  son disobeys  it doesn't affect his fellowship with their Father at all?  Just as a Father might send his son to his room to think on his actions, so God says he will not answer our prayers if we dwell in sin. (Psalm 66:18,1 Peter 3:7)

Also If our focus is only on the World we will not hear HIS still small voice.  Do we stop being his Son because we put Sin before seeking God? No, but we cannot be close to him while putting sin first (James 4:8 )

The Voice - The law is not fleshly!
Yeshua - I posted a quote from Romans 8:3. I'll do it again and make the applicable part.... really BIG...

Yet you ignore the verse I posted - Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual : but I am carnal, sold under sin



I feel in a way we may agree more then disagree but that we disagree on which comes first the SPIRIT or the WORD.

I am stating that as we study the WORD the SPIRIT works to make us a FINISHED work meet to do the WORK God has prepare for us.  (Ephesians 2:9-11)

It seem (to me at least) that you would contend that without the SPIRIT compelling us we would NEVER go to the WORD in the first place.

Yet even in salvation we see that Faith cometh by hearing the Word of God - (Romans 10:17)

Some final verses -

Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.


Psalms 119:11 – Thy Word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.

James 1:22-25
22But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

Please don't call me "Yeshua"!!!

I don't even know if I respond to someone that doesn't know what Yeshua means.....

Same name as Moses' assistant Joshua.

I'm not praising Moses' assistant!!!

Are you?

Do you generally use the term "Praise Joshua"?

 

[bgwilkinson]

Hard to condense this stuff down -

Yeshua -

It one thing to say God loves.... its another to say that God is love. Do you really not know the difference?

Note I never said the OT says God is love but that the law show us the nature of God is love. Emphasis Added

Yeshua  -

- I'm not a hyper dispensationalist

Please explain how this is not dispensation thinking -

I hope you realize that Jesus talked of "new commandments". Does that mean there is something MORE than what the Law of God gave to Moses....

Yeshua -

You're requiring I submit to your own theology when you say such things....

You've made statement like this several times. Twice when I define terms. Please understand that when I define a term I am not saying you have to agree with my definition of the term but rather specifying what I mean as many terms have different meanings to different sections of Christianity - (example - Baptize )
The more specific I am the less we have to rehash what has  already been said.


One big Term we seemed to have disagreed on is Sanctification. I will give three passages of scripture that best represent what I am talking about when I say we must strive for  sanctification. 

1 -Romans 7 - Paul talks about the daily struggle between his flesh and Spirit to do right. 
2 -Hebrews 12: Talks about striving to finish the course God has prepared for us.
3 -2 Timothy 2:19-21 - Talks about our lives being a vessel God can use, but the highest use is  if we are clean.

Maybe I should use other terms like "Waking in the light" but this striving for the perfect will of God is what I most often associate with the word Sanctification. It is defined as set apart for a purpose and I am set apart for HIS service.

Yeshua -

  John 16:13  Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth:

Do you remember when Jesus said that a man shall live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God? Do you really believe that we have EVERY word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God..... "WRITTEN".... somewhere?

Yes he was being tempted by Satan and said "Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word..."  Yet tell me can you show that those "every word" is the truth referred to in John 16:13 and not the Bible?  In fact Chapter 17 says 2  times (v8,v14) that Jesus gave the disciple God's word  and in verse 17 it says "thy word is truth." 

Yeshua -

Yes. Christian suffer consequence when they sin. I will also add that Christian suffer when they don't sin. When they are in absolute obedience to Christ..... they still SUFFER.

You seem to be mixing the laws of Reaping and Sowing with the Law "It rains on the Just and the Unjust"  Yes your statement are technically correct and we will all suffer no matter how we live, but I am saying every time we sin we will pay the earthly price.

The Bible says the wages of sin is death. Every time we lie, we kill our honest reputation. The same with any sin. Gluttony makes us fat and Divorce kills our families.  If we sow stealing, we will reap distrust. God may use governments to punish us for sin our he may do it himself. 

The Voice - No. I still have a relationship, but fellowship is dead [John 9:31,1 Peter 3:12] Fellowship is resumed when we confess our sins [1 John 1:9]

Yeshua - Humm.... so you're no longer treated like a son by the Father? Really? By what means do you have access to God once you sin after being Saved? Isn't it about "relationship"? 

TheVoice - Are you saying that when a  son disobeys  it doesn't affect his fellowship with their Father at all?  Just as a Father might send his son to his room to think on his actions, so God says he will not answer our prayers if we dwell in sin. (Psalm 66:18,1 Peter 3:7)

Also If our focus is only on the World we will not hear HIS still small voice.  Do we stop being his Son because we put Sin before seeking God? No, but we cannot be close to him while putting sin first (James 4:8 )

The Voice - The law is not fleshly!
Yeshua - I posted a quote from Romans 8:3. I'll do it again and make the applicable part.... really BIG...

Yet you ignore the verse I posted - Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual : but I am carnal, sold under sin



I feel in a way we may agree more then disagree but that we disagree on which comes first the SPIRIT or the WORD.

I am stating that as we study the WORD the SPIRIT works to make us a FINISHED work meet to do the WORK God has prepare for us.  (Ephesians 2:9-11)

It seem (to me at least) that you would contend that without the SPIRIT compelling us we would NEVER go to the WORD in the first place.

Yet even in salvation we see that Faith cometh by hearing the Word of God - (Romans 10:17)

Some final verses -

Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.


Psalms 119:11 – Thy Word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.

James 1:22-25
22But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

Please don't call me "Yeshua"!!!

I don't even know if I respond to someone that doesn't know what Yeshua means.....

Same name as Moses' assistant Joshua.

I'm not praising Moses' assistant!!!

Are you?

Do you generally use the term "Praise Joshua"?

We are talking about your moniker.

You selected it, surely you know what it means.

I believe you know both Hebrew and Aramaic.

 

[TheVoice]

Please don't call me "Yeshua"!!!

I don't even know if I respond to someone that doesn't know what Yeshua means.....

I changed it on the original but can't do anything about the copies.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Please don't call me "Yeshua"!!!

I don't even know if I respond to someone that doesn't know what Yeshua means.....

I changed it on the original but can't do anything about the copies.

 

[FreeToBeMe]

I'm not praising Moses' assistant!!!

Are you?

Do you generally use the term "Praise Joshua"?

pssssttt....Yeshua (Hebrew name)=Joshua (English spelling) = Iēsous (Greek name) = Jesus (English spelling)

Some folks tend to get too caught up in the name instead of focusing on the Man.

 

[subllibrm]

I'm not praising Moses' assistant!!!

Are you?

Do you generally use the term "Praise Joshua"?

pssssttt....Yeshua (Hebrew name)=Joshua (English spelling) = Iēsous (Greek name) = Jesus (English spelling)

Some folks tend to get too caught up in the name instead of focusing on the Man.

Yeah, what are we going to do with all those Hispanic Jesus guys running around?

 

[FreeToBeMe]

Yeah, what are we going to do with all those Hispanic Jesus guys running around?

Indeed!  And what about all those American Joshua guys?  LOL

...little did their parents' know when they named them!

meh...makes no difference.  He could have been named any common Hebrew name of the time.....and yet He'd still be our Messiah.  The distinction is the title, not the given name.

 

[subllibrm]

Yeah, what are we going to do with all those Hispanic Jesus guys running around?

Indeed!  And what about all those American Joshua guys?  LOL

...little did their parents' know when they named them!

meh...makes no difference.  He could have been named any common Hebrew name of the time.....and yet He'd still be our Messiah.  The distinction is the title, not the given name.

Christ!

 

[FreeToBeMe]

Christ!

Yup...

praise_yeshua, if you want to exhibit praise to Jesus the Messiah using the Hebrew title, maybe you should change your forum name to "praise_Yeshua HaMashiach";  although I don't really quite understand the obsession some English speaking folks have with thinking they have to use the name "Yeshua" instead of "Jesus".

 

[subllibrm]

Christ!

Yup...

praise_yeshua, if you want to exhibit praise to Jesus the Messiah using the Hebrew title, maybe you should change your forum name to "praise_Yeshua HaMashiach";  although I don't really quite understand the obsession some English speaking folks have with thinking they have to use the name "Yeshua" instead of "Jesus".

Oy vey!

 

[FreeToBeMe]

Oy vey!

hmmm...that would be Yiddish, and the name "Jesus" would be "Yoshke", although that would be a diminutive name.   

 

[praise_yeshua]

I'm not praising Moses' assistant!!!

Are you?

Do you generally use the term "Praise Joshua"?

pssssttt....Yeshua (Hebrew name)=Joshua (English spelling) = Iēsous (Greek name) = Jesus (English spelling)

Some folks tend to get too caught up in the name instead of focusing on the Man.

At  the name of "who" will every knee bow?

For English people.....Is it Jesus or Joshua?

 

[praise_yeshua]

Christ!

Yup...

praise_yeshua, if you want to exhibit praise to Jesus the Messiah using the Hebrew title, maybe you should change your forum name to "praise_Yeshua HaMashiach";  although I don't really quite understand the obsession some English speaking folks have with thinking they have to use the name "Yeshua" instead of "Jesus".

You guys are really pitiful. You obviously don't know your Bible.

For the record, I'm not obsessed with the name Yeshua. I just choose it because it came to mind when I created my account. Either way, I don't want to be called "Yeshua". That is my choice. Not your choice. I don't desire the name to be associated with me.

 

[rsc2a]

Okay, Yeshua. We get it, Yeshua. You don't want to be called Yeshua, Yeshua, so people should call you Yeshua, Yeshua.

 

[FreeToBeMe]

You guys are really pitiful. You obviously don't know your Bible.

You obviously don't know how the Bible was translated into English.

 

[FreeToBeMe]

At  the name of "who" will every knee bow?

If you want to be quite literal, it would be "Iésous".  Maybe you should change your forum name to "praise_Iésous".

If the NT were written in the same language as the OT,  it probably would have stated "at the name of Joshua...."  Jesus Christ's given name was quite common, even though He wasn't a common man.

It's really quite simple.  "Joshua" is the English rendering of Christ's given from Hebrew.  "Jesus" is the English rendering of Christ's given name from Greek.