Role of Instruments in Worship

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New person on the worship team this morning. He was playing a Les Paul plugged into a tube amp. Very warm and sweet sound. He wasn’t playing lead but filling in between the keyboard and bass; rounding out the sound. It was Heavenly. IMO it really added to the atmosphere of worship.

Am I being fleshly or was the new guy's worship genuinely leading the congregation before the Throne? Why or why not? 🧐😉
 
New person on the worship team this morning. He was playing a Les Paul plugged into a tube amp. Very warm and sweet sound. He wasn’t playing lead but filling in between the keyboard and bass; rounding out the sound. It was Heavenly. IMO it really added to the atmosphere of worship.

Am I being fleshly or was the new guy's worship genuinely leading the congregation before the Throne? Why or why not? 🧐😉
I am not sure "Worship" music was ever meant to lead us "Before the Throne" but I may be wrong. New testament singing of "Psalms, Hymns, and Spiritual Songs" seems to be for our edification although "Worship" in included in our edification so I am not against it.

Your new guitar player seems to have good taste though. Nothing better than a well dialed in tube amp and it is always a good thing when they know they are in a worship service and not a blues jam! I'm mainly a Strat man but I see the need for something with "buckers" in it every so often and I just got a Thinline Tele for my birthday present that may foot the bill just fine.
 
I am not sure "Worship" music was ever meant to lead us "Before the Throne" but I may be wrong.
You are.

j/k 😝

Seriously, it's always been my understanding by implication if not by teaching that the role of the worship team is to worship the Lord and by doing so, they lead the congregation to do the same. Singing is one form of worship and is a very good means of bringing everyone together to transition from thinking about the cares of life to fixing our minds on Christ so we can move on to the next form of worship, taking in His Word and letting it do its work.. You may have different terminology for this; bringing us before the Throne is mine.

I spoke with the guy and told him how I appreciated the new sound and how appropriately it was presented. He told me he just wants to add to the environment of worship but not get in the way. Our bassist commented he thought it was a very "tasty" addition. I agree.
 
New person on the worship team this morning. He was playing a Les Paul plugged into a tube amp. Very warm and sweet sound. He wasn’t playing lead but filling in between the keyboard and bass; rounding out the sound. It was Heavenly. IMO it really added to the atmosphere of worship.

Am I being fleshly or was the new guy's worship genuinely leading the congregation before the Throne? Why or why not? 🧐😉
I couldn't honestly give an assessment since I wasn't there...It would all be without any substance just because we don't know for sure. It hasn't been shown here via YOUTUBE or any other platform, so, how could we give an honest opinion?
 
Obviously this is a tremendously subjective issue. My two cents is that music sets a mood, but lyrics are objectively able to present propositional truth. My "being brought before the throne" in worship via music is excessively weighted towards apprehension of God's beauty/majesty/grace through the objectively clear presentation of propositional truth in lyrics, which is only heightened as I participate in corporate unity with fellow-believers. Those are my priorities in corporate worship through the music.

The extent to which a particular instrument can add to that is relatively insignificant for me, but I can imagine that those with a greater affinity for the variety of instrumentation and its effects could be swayed to some greater or lesser degree as you've described. The closest analogy that I can relate that to you from my perspective is that I think instruments played skillfully (as opposed to poor presentations) add to the appreciation of the worship experience. But obviously the degree to which an instrument is played properly is not exactly the same as comparing the individual sounds made by combining various instruments to produce an aesthetically different and pleasing sound (which produces a better and more worship-inducing sound, per your understanding).

I imagine that some people (matter of fact, I know one personally) could listen to thrash metal and be brought to a worshipful attitude. That's a bridge too far for me, but as long as there are varieties of churches that I (hypothetically) can choose from I will select one with a music program that suits my predispositions towards harmony and melody that is subservient to the lyrical content (and of course, as the good fundy that I am, very traditional in style and lyrics).
 
A popular IFB pastor in Michigan said, "unplug the instruments and Contemporary music goes away." Eventually the 9 volt battery in his wireless mic died.

I am all for the creative use of sound. I once played the rear brake drum from a car during a classical piece.

Anything that enhances the music is fine for worship.
 
A popular IFB pastor in Michigan said, "unplug the instruments and Contemporary music goes away." Eventually the 9 volt battery in his wireless mic died.

I am all for the creative use of sound. I once played the rear brake drum from a car during a classical piece.

Anything that enhances the music is fine for worship.
One person's "enhancement" is another person's noise and/or distraction, hence the subjective nature inherent to answering this question.
 
A popular IFB pastor in Michigan said, "unplug the instruments and Contemporary music goes away." Eventually the 9 volt battery in his wireless mic died.

I am all for the creative use of sound. I once played the rear brake drum from a car during a classical piece.

Anything that enhances the music is fine for worship.
Sometimes its a good idea to "unplug" a few things and get down to basics but this pertains everywhere with music. This is why the "MTV Unplugged" concerts were so popular.

Just yesterday I was telling my pastor that I'd like to (at times) strip things down to a couple of instruments (acoustic guitar, keyboard, put the drummer on a "cajon," Etc.). My rationale is threefold:

1. The focus is more upon the message of the songs which the congregation should be meditating upon and considering.

2. Practice time is very limited and is quite chaotic. Only on Saturdays for a couple hours with many other things going on and people demanding use of the auditorium. If I limit it to another guitar player and someone on a cajon, we can practice anywhere with far greater flexibility.

3. At this time, the skillset of many of our worship group volunteers is very limited so not only are you teaching them the songs, you also have to teach them how to play their instrument! Most of the singers also do not know how to harmonize so having them up on the platform actually detracts from what we are doing. Therefore, I could hand-pick one or two in our congregation who actually have some musical "chops" and do something cohesive!

We usually have three songs so I'd like to explore a "Psalm, Hymn, and Spiritual Song" concept where we do either a "Scripture Song" or something adapted from an old Psalter, a REAL Hymn (not just the sappy, sentimental stuff that creeps into hymnals these days), and a Spiritual Song that may be "contemporary" in nature but substantive and doctrinally sound.
 
A popular IFB pastor in Michigan said, "unplug the instruments and Contemporary music goes away." Eventually the 9 volt battery in his wireless mic died.

Conversely, when the electric instruments go away, out come the acoustic ones. A priest on a guitar gave us "Silent Night" because of a broken organ.
 
Am I being fleshly or was the new guy's worship genuinely leading the congregation before the Throne? Why or why not? 🧐😉

My feeling is that insofar as his playing was turning the congregation's attention away from the podium and up to heaven, he was doing his job properly, and good for him.

As a general rule, though, I tend to be skeptical when musicianship gets called "worshipful." It smacks somewhat of Finneyism and revivalism: producing the right emotions in the audience to make them more receptive to the message. If I thought that particular style of playing would bring me closer to Jesus, I'd have Dire Straits on the stereo nonstop.
 
One person's "enhancement" is another person's noise and/or distraction, hence the subjective nature inherent to answering this question.

IFBs have been entirely inconsistent on this. Ron Comfort used an electric guitar in church services.

I believe the music controversy wouldn't be much of a topic if it wasnt for the "approved music lists" at Bob Jones, Maranatha, Pensacola and Bill Gothard. (Which meant you couldn't listen to Pensacolas music because of the way they held their mics.)

Much of the music controversy has more to do with Bible College allegiances... and personalities.
 
IFBs have been entirely inconsistent on this. Ron Comfort used an electric guitar in church services.

I believe the music controversy wouldn't be much of a topic if it wasnt for the "approved music lists" at Bob Jones, Maranatha, Pensacola and Bill Gothard. (Which meant you couldn't listen to Pensacolas music because of the way they held their mics.)

Much of the music controversy has more to do with Bible College allegiances... and personalities.
All very true, but the context of my statement applies across-the-board, regardless of denominational affiliation. It’s a subjective discussion.
 
Puts what I learned in Pensacola into perspective.
 
i agree with alayman on this subject..... not all of us have memories of fundamentalist "personalities" or baptist bible colleges.... i never heard of them at all until i joined the fff.... and the churches i go to have never heard of those preachers mentioned so frequently on the fff or the colleges either... and yet they all have a very conservative view regarding music used in the course of worship at church... in some ways even more strict than those the new ccm and worship team oriented churches would call old fashioned.... or try to blame on bob jones college...

to me it looks like a large portion of baptists and many others have confused worship with entertainment.... ...and just for the record i love rock and roll as much as anyone - but i would just as soon hear a chain saw start up in church as an electric guitar, or have to endure somebody banging away on a set of drums... ..not really fond of pianos either.. too loud and overbearing...great for certain kinds of musical entertainment and for learning music... but not much else .

those and many other things i have seen played or done by "musicians" or "performers" tend to drown out the voices of the congregation - which is really what music as part of worship is all about....it;s not about sitting and being entertained by someone else ..no matter how much it stirs the pulse or thrills the senses...... .worship through music in church is about a congregation singing together....

just my opinions... on a subject we have discussed on the fff many times ad nauseam over the years... but never agreed on..... and it;s not likely we ever will.... which is why we go to different churches..... :cool:
 
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to me it looks like a large portion of baptists and many others have confused worship with entertainment.... ...and just for the record i love rock and roll as much as anyone - but i would just as soon hear a chain saw start up in church as an electric guitar, or have to endure somebody banging away on a set of drums... ..not really fond of pianos either.. too loud and overbearing...great for certain kinds of musical entertainment and for learning music... but not much else .

those and many other things i have seen played or done by "musicians" or "performers" tend to drown out the voices of the congregation - which is really what music as part of worship is all about....it;s not about sitting and being entertained by someone else ..no matter how much it stirs the pulse or thrills the senses...... .worship through music in church is about a congregation singing together....

just my opinions... on a subject we have discussed on the fff many times ad nauseam over the years... but never agreed on..... and it;s not likely we ever will.... which is why we go to different churches..... :cool:
I believe I subscribe to the "Hank Hill School of Theology" on this one:

 
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