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By Bryan Denlinger
Satan's Emergent Church Movement
Satan's Emergent Church Movement
Satan's Emergent "Church" Movement - By Bryan Denlinger
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Is that you??
I watched the very beginning of it. He seemed confused and incoherent, but I stayed with him in hopes that it would get better. But when he said, not that the Bible was the Word of God, but that a particular translation was, I knew I was watching a total heretic and turned him off. KJVO nutjobs are not worth my time.
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Postmodern church. How delightfully retro.
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Gotta love his home made title on his Bible. I am a KJV guy, but that's just goofy. I stopped the video right there, realizing he just qualified himself as a HACker!
16KJV11 said:
That it might... but you can wear a beard and a tinfoil hot.
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Izdaari said:
I call it passe. Postmodernism is on the outs. It's being replaced with some new silliness they haven't found a name for yet.
Ransom said:
Oh no! We're not trendy anymore? The horrors!
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The emergent "church" movement is nothing to take lightly. It Is a very wicked and satanic system that is leading people straight to Hell.
What they teach is so unorthodox and foreign to Scripture.
What they teach is so unorthodox and foreign to Scripture.
Biblebeliever said:
You ever actually read anything by emergent authors, and not just their critics? It sure doesn't sound like it.
It isn't defined by what they teach, which varies widely. Some emergents are heretics, true enough. And some are completely orthodox (unless KJVO is your test; I'm pretty sure none are KJVO, but if they were I'd call that heresy). And it's not a "movement", but a "conversation"... because it's about the questions they ask, not how they answer them. I don't like some of their answers, but in a conversation, as opposed to a movement, that's ok.
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Biblebeliever said:
It's also a movement that has managed to morph and fracture in recent years. I can't remember the last time I actually spoke to someone who was part of an emerging church. And I'm not sure if anyone even listens to Rob Bell or Brian MacLaren anymore.
If you know what they teach, perhaps you can enlighten the rest of us. One of the major complaints I've had with the movement is that they love to raise questions but fail to even suggest answers.
(That's also why it was never a "conversation," - that imples a certain amount of actual give-and-take.)
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Tarheel Baptist said:
Kudos for actually going to an authentic emergent source... albeit one that other emergents have broken from for excessive liberalism.
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Izdaari said:
Doug Padgett is still there, to the best of my knowledge.
Who, pray tell, is a more excessive liberal?
The purpose of posting that link was simply to make the point that the emergent movement isn't like the boogie man...it actually exists.
Tarheel Baptist said:Izdaari said:
Doug Padgett is still there, to the best of my knowledge.
Who, pray tell, is a more excessive liberal?
The purpose of posting that link was simply to make the point that the emergent movement isn't like the boogie man...it actually exists.
I'm not that familar with Doug Padgett's work though I know the name. I see a few book titles of his that look interesting. I'll refrain from commenting until I've read one of them.
And yes, of course they exist. I belong to one of the flagship emergent churches.
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Izdaari said:Tarheel Baptist said:Izdaari said:
Doug Padgett is still there, to the best of my knowledge.
Who, pray tell, is a more excessive liberal?
The purpose of posting that link was simply to make the point that the emergent movement isn't like the boogie man...it actually exists.
I'm not that familar with Doug Padgett's work though I know the name. I see a few book titles of his that look interesting. I'll refrain from commenting until I've read one of them.
And yes, of course they exist. I belong to one of the flagship emergent churches.
Pagett (I misspelled his name before), McLaren, and Bell are three of the most well known emergents.
The movement is often hard to define, but seldom orthodox, IMO.
They simply push aside pesky doctrine, like Hell, which this culture finds offensive.
Can't be loving and offend the culture at the same time... :
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Tarheel Baptist said:Pagett (I misspelled his name before), McLaren, and Bell are three of the most well known emergents.
The movement is often hard to define, but seldom orthodox, IMO.
They simply push aside pesky doctrine, like Hell, which this culture finds offensive.
Can't be loving and offend the culture at the same time... :
You still misspelled it. It's Pagitt. I know who he is, I just haven't read any of his books yet.
And like I said, I don't like some of their answers. Truth is truth, whether it offends the culture or not. Some, such as McLaren, are too liberal for me, both theologically and politically. But I still like him because he asks the right questions and makes me think.
On the Driscoll (one of the most conservative emergents, though he denies the label now and has disassociated himself from Emergent Village for excessive liberalism) to McLaren (one of the most liberal) scale, I'm probably closer to Driscoll, though he has his problems too.