aleshanee said:...then maybe you are not doing sunday school right....... 8)
My Sunday School teacher can beat up your Sunday School teacher
They have two different purposes and both are great!
aleshanee said:...then maybe you are not doing sunday school right....... 8)
aleshanee said:...well.... since my sunday school teacher is an elderly hawaiian lady.... then yeah... yours probably c.... .... hey ...wait a minute... what am i saying?.... ???.... .. elderly hawaiian ladies are known for being tough.... ???..... and besides.... i just saw your -666 negative rep....... all she has to do is whack you and your sunday school teacher with her family sized chain reference king james ...... and it;s all over but the crying......![]()
i have nothing against small groups...... i;m sure they serve a wonderful purpose....... but so does my large congregational church service..... and..... despite claims to the contrary... there is nothing pagan about it......... even if at least one sermon a week is preached in hawaiian..... but then there is a hawaiian language bible too...... and he uses it in his sermon...... 8)[/font][/size][/color]
Biker said:Kindof a funny name .."Sunday School".
Wow, that's interesting. Many of our churches have Adult Sunday School here too.Ransom said:Biker said:Kindof a funny name .."Sunday School".
And yet that's literally what they were. Robert Raikes founded a system of Sunday schools for working children, to provide them an education on the only day they had free from work. Though the Bible and the catechism were taught, and Sunday services were part of the routine, the purpose was to give an education to a class that normally had no access to it. It was the forerunner of the English state school system. After education became available and compulsory for everyone, the Sunday school became a church's own education program for its adherents.
BALAAM said:A group of Christian people, taking a night out of their schedule, to be with other Christian people, whose main goal is the study the Bible.
subllibrm said:FSSL said:Pastors who are against small groups are either spooked by that which they do not know or are control-freaks who have to always be the teacher.
Frag's response seems to show this to be true.
Frag said:subllibrm said:FSSL said:Pastors who are against small groups are either spooked by that which they do not know or are control-freaks who have to always be the teacher.
Frag's response seems to show this to be true.
My response showed just the opposite. If I was a control freak, then I would not have urged us to strike for a balance and give people time to live their lives.
Control freaks are great at labeling others as control freaks. Perhaps the man or woman who is the most insistent on leading a small group is the one who has the biggest thirst for control. Modern-day Diotrephes love to find some setting where they can have preeminence. Small groups MANY times are not about the need for discipleship or encouragement, but about someone needing the spotlight.
Frag said:Small groups MANY times are not about the need for discipleship or encouragement, but about someone needing the spotlight.
Frag said:Small groups MANY times are not about the need for discipleship or encouragement, but about someone needing the spotlight.
The Rogue Tomato said:Why not cut out the main service, which is long and tedious, puts people to sleep, and rarely teaches anyone anything new? Just conduct Sunday School classes. That would give people more time to live their lives.
FSSL said:Frag said:Small groups MANY times are not about the need for discipleship or encouragement, but about someone needing the spotlight.
So you would TOTALLY miss out on allowing your church people discuss Scripture in small groups, in homes throughout your community, because your concern is that someone is going to get some spotlight? (which has never been the case in our small groups)
Someone does not trust the leadership in his own church.
The Rogue Tomato said:Frag said:Small groups MANY times are not about the need for discipleship or encouragement, but about someone needing the spotlight.
So when one person is the absolute center of attention, while all others must sit quietly and listen -- that's not someone needing the spotlight.
Frag said:Pass around a piece of paper in your next small group session and have them write down two numbers: the number of hours spent in group Bible preaching/teaching/discussion and the number of hours spent taking the gospel to the lost. You will have your answer.
Someone does not want to go soul winning....
FSSL said:Frag said:Pass around a piece of paper in your next small group session and have them write down two numbers: the number of hours spent in group Bible preaching/teaching/discussion and the number of hours spent taking the gospel to the lost. You will have your answer.
Someone does not want to go soul winning....
Someone doesn't understand the dynamic of small groups. They are magnets for the unsaved.
You already have structured your church ministries to stifle any extracurricular "soulwinning." Your growth is prevented by your many hours of SS, Sunday AM, Sunday PM, Wednesday
.tim said:Does it go against pastoral authority for one to have an in-home Bible study?
FSSL said:.tim said:Does it go against pastoral authority for one to have an in-home Bible study?
Apparently it goes against one poster's authority! He doesn't trust his leadership.
.tim said:Does it go against pastoral authority for one to have an in-home Bible study?