Standards of dress

No. They should all wear burkas.

But what if the man has an Arab fetish?
 
Smellin Coffee said:
RAIDER said:
I think God wants us to represent Him on the inside and outside, not one OR the other. 

This is where you and I disagree. I believe that God doesn't want us to represent Him but rather He wants to represent through us, and I believe that is done through our actions of love, specifically to the marginalized in society.

Are we not to represent Christ?


2 Corinthians 5:20

20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
 
Two concepts often overlooked or ignored.

Believer priest.

Soul liberty.

Dress codes for a person's life outside of church or school (don't like 'em, find another church or school) are an affront to both. Or to put it bluntly to the controlling leadership types, mind your own business.
 
rsc2a said:
No. They should all wear burkas.

But what if the man has an Arab fetish?

Again, you go to a stupid extreme.  Let's say two women who are twins walk by a group of unGodly men.  One is dressed in loose fitting pants and a conservative shirt.  One is dressed in tight shorts and a form fitting top.  Which woman are the men more likely to gaze at?  Which one is going to stir temptation in these men?
 
RAIDER said:
Smellin Coffee said:
RAIDER said:
I think God wants us to represent Him on the inside and outside, not one OR the other. 

This is where you and I disagree. I believe that God doesn't want us to represent Him but rather He wants to represent through us, and I believe that is done through our actions of love, specifically to the marginalized in society.

Are we not to represent Christ?


2 Corinthians 5:20

20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

Yes we are. The question is who gets to decide what qualifies as ambassadorial attire?
 
subllibrm said:
Two concepts often overlooked or ignored.

Believer priest.

Soul liberty.

Dress codes for a person's life outside of church or school (don't like 'em, find another church or school) are an affront to both. Or to put it bluntly to the controlling leadership types, mind your own business.

Are tight shorts on a woman pleasing to God or does He allow each individual to decide?
 
RAIDER said:
rsc2a said:
No. They should all wear burkas.

But what if the man has an Arab fetish?

Again, you go to a stupid extreme.  Let's say two women who are twins walk by a group of unGodly men.  One is dressed in loose fitting pants and a conservative shirt.  One is dressed in tight shorts and a form fitting top.  Which woman are the men more likely to gaze at?  Which one is going to stir temptation in these men?

Says the halter top and miniskirt guy!  :D
 
RAIDER said:
Smellin Coffee said:
RAIDER said:
I think God wants us to represent Him on the inside and outside, not one OR the other. 

This is where you and I disagree. I believe that God doesn't want us to represent Him but rather He wants to represent through us, and I believe that is done through our actions of love, specifically to the marginalized in society.

Are we not to represent Christ?


2 Corinthians 5:20

20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

Yes, but Jesus said the shining of the light through us is through our works and God is glorified. Nowhere does He mention attire as representative of God. And I believe prophet on this forum has clearly stated that Paul's stance about women's modesty is also good works.

In addition, Paul's statement above was simply a conclusion to what he previously had mentioned:

All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation; that is, in Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation.

So he is saying we are God's ambassadors in that we represent God in the areas of reconciling and forgiving. Nothing about attire here.
 
subllibrm said:
RAIDER said:
rsc2a said:
No. They should all wear burkas.

But what if the man has an Arab fetish?

Again, you go to a stupid extreme.  Let's say two women who are twins walk by a group of unGodly men.  One is dressed in loose fitting pants and a conservative shirt.  One is dressed in tight shorts and a form fitting top.  Which woman are the men more likely to gaze at?  Which one is going to stir temptation in these men?

Says the halter top and miniskirt guy!  :D

Speaking of that, we still haven't heard your opinion on the topic.
 
RAIDER said:
subllibrm said:
Two concepts often overlooked or ignored.

Believer priest.

Soul liberty.

Dress codes for a person's life outside of church or school (don't like 'em, find another church or school) are an affront to both. Or to put it bluntly to the controlling leadership types, mind your own business.

Are tight shorts on a woman pleasing to God or does He allow each individual to decide?

None of my business outside of the woman that I am responsible for. Should another ask my opinion I will speak honestly to her question. There are times where the conversation may even be initiated by me but those would be rare and situational.

So if she wear daisy dukes to mow her lawn and her husband is on board, I will leave it to God to deal with them.
 
RAIDER said:
subllibrm said:
RAIDER said:
rsc2a said:
No. They should all wear burkas.

But what if the man has an Arab fetish?

Again, you go to a stupid extreme.  Let's say two women who are twins walk by a group of unGodly men.  One is dressed in loose fitting pants and a conservative shirt.  One is dressed in tight shorts and a form fitting top.  Which woman are the men more likely to gaze at?  Which one is going to stir temptation in these men?

Says the halter top and miniskirt guy!  :D

Speaking of that, we still haven't heard your opinion on the topic.

Keep reading.
 
subllibrm said:
RAIDER said:
subllibrm said:
Two concepts often overlooked or ignored.

Believer priest.

Soul liberty.

Dress codes for a person's life outside of church or school (don't like 'em, find another church or school) are an affront to both. Or to put it bluntly to the controlling leadership types, mind your own business.

Are tight shorts on a woman pleasing to God or does He allow each individual to decide?

None of my business outside of the woman that I am responsible for. Should another ask my opinion I will speak honestly to her question. There are times where the conversation may even be initiated by me but those would be rare and situational.

So if she wear daisy dukes to mow her lawn and her husband is on board, I will leave it to God to deal with them.

We are asking your opinion.  Please speak honestly as to the question.
 
RAIDER said:
subllibrm said:
RAIDER said:
subllibrm said:
Two concepts often overlooked or ignored.

Believer priest.

Soul liberty.

Dress codes for a person's life outside of church or school (don't like 'em, find another church or school) are an affront to both. Or to put it bluntly to the controlling leadership types, mind your own business.

Are tight shorts on a woman pleasing to God or does He allow each individual to decide?

None of my business outside of the woman that I am responsible for. Should another ask my opinion I will speak honestly to her question. There are times where the conversation may even be initiated by me but those would be rare and situational.

So if she wear daisy dukes to mow her lawn and her husband is on board, I will leave it to God to deal with them.

We are asking your opinion.  Please speak honestly as to the question.

Earlier on this thread, more than once, you were asked if you believe a lady who wears pants is participating in sinful activity..... :)
 
RAIDER said:
rsc2a said:
No. They should all wear burkas.

But what if the man has an Arab fetish?

Again, you go to a stupid extreme.  Let's say two women who are twins walk by a group of unGodly men.  One is dressed in loose fitting pants and a conservative shirt.  One is dressed in tight shorts and a form fitting top.  Which woman are the men more likely to gaze at?  Which one is going to stir temptation in these men?

That's the problem with the whole argument. No matter what someone wears, another could still look at them like meat. You are wanting to shift the blame to the violated one instead of the one doing the violating. Its very Sharia lawish.
 
RAIDER said:
subllibrm said:
RAIDER said:
subllibrm said:
Two concepts often overlooked or ignored.

Believer priest.

Soul liberty.

Dress codes for a person's life outside of church or school (don't like 'em, find another church or school) are an affront to both. Or to put it bluntly to the controlling leadership types, mind your own business.

Are tight shorts on a woman pleasing to God or does He allow each individual to decide?

None of my business outside of the woman that I am responsible for. Should another ask my opinion I will speak honestly to her question. There are times where the conversation may even be initiated by me but those would be rare and situational.

So if she wear daisy dukes to mow her lawn and her husband is on board, I will leave it to God to deal with them.

We are asking your opinion.  Please speak honestly as to the question.

Says the guy who couldn't answer about Capri pants because he "didn't see her".
 
Fellow posters, I realize that the weightier matters are the matters of the heart.  I absolutely will not argue with you about that.  I also realize that many of you at one time in your life held to a fairly strict dress standard.  I also realize that many of you have seen hypocrisy from people who held to these standards.  This hypocrisy has turned you off to the topic of dress standards.

Any discussion of dress standards automatically brings out the fangs.  it automatically pushes you to think that whoever believes in a dress standard must also be a hypocrite who has no concern for what's on the inside.  It must be somebody who I need to level because they have no love or concern for anyone.  Nothing could be farther from the truth in this case.

As I have posted several times, it is all about the heart.  Several of you have posted that "what is in the heart will eventually show on the outside".  I agree!  The recent discussion on this thread is whether or not a gal should wear short, see through, tight, skimpy clothing in public. Some of you have given a to-the-point honest opinion.  Others have attacked and have never answered the question. 
 
rsc2a said:
RAIDER said:
rsc2a said:
No. They should all wear burkas.

But what if the man has an Arab fetish?

Again, you go to a stupid extreme.  Let's say two women who are twins walk by a group of unGodly men.  One is dressed in loose fitting pants and a conservative shirt.  One is dressed in tight shorts and a form fitting top.  Which woman are the men more likely to gaze at?  Which one is going to stir temptation in these men?

That's the problem with the whole argument. No matter what someone wears, another could still look at them like meat. You are wanting to shift the blame to the violated one instead of the one doing the violating. Its very Sharia lawish.

They should just stay home and make babies for their man. Leaving the house is asking for someone to lust. No looky, no lusty.
 
subllibrm said:
RAIDER said:
subllibrm said:
RAIDER said:
subllibrm said:
Two concepts often overlooked or ignored.

Believer priest.

Soul liberty.

Dress codes for a person's life outside of church or school (don't like 'em, find another church or school) are an affront to both. Or to put it bluntly to the controlling leadership types, mind your own business.

Are tight shorts on a woman pleasing to God or does He allow each individual to decide?

None of my business outside of the woman that I am responsible for. Should another ask my opinion I will speak honestly to her question. There are times where the conversation may even be initiated by me but those would be rare and situational.

So if she wear daisy dukes to mow her lawn and her husband is on board, I will leave it to God to deal with them.

We are asking your opinion.  Please speak honestly as to the question.

Says the guy who couldn't answer about Capri pants because he "didn't see her".

Maybe her capri pants were pleated and loose fitting and were actually a pair of culottes. :) 
 
rsc2a said:
RAIDER said:
rsc2a said:
No. They should all wear burkas.

But what if the man has an Arab fetish?

Again, you go to a stupid extreme.  Let's say two women who are twins walk by a group of unGodly men.  One is dressed in loose fitting pants and a conservative shirt.  One is dressed in tight shorts and a form fitting top.  Which woman are the men more likely to gaze at?  Which one is going to stir temptation in these men?

That's the problem with the whole argument. No matter what someone wears, another could still look at them like meat. You are wanting to shift the blame to the violated one instead of the one doing the violating. Its very Sharia lawish.

I didn't think you could answer the question.
 
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