Standards of dress

[IFB X-Files]

The recent discussion on this thread is whether or not a gal should wear short, see through, tight, skimpy clothing in public.

OK....OK....  I'm for it!

Ouch!  My wife gently told me that's the wrong answer.

 

[subllibrm]

No. They should all wear burkas.

But what if the man has an Arab fetish?

Again, you go to a stupid extreme.  Let's say two women who are twins walk by a group of unGodly men.  One is dressed in loose fitting pants and a conservative shirt.  One is dressed in tight shorts and a form fitting top.  Which woman are the men more likely to gaze at?  Which one is going to stir temptation in these men?

That's the problem with the whole argument. No matter what someone wears, another could still look at them like meat. You are wanting to shift the blame to the violated one instead of the one doing the violating. Its very Sharia lawish.

I didn't think you could answer the question.

Says the guy who hasn't answered the question.

 

[subllibrm]

The recent discussion on this thread is whether or not a gal should wear short, see through, tight, skimpy clothing in public.

OK....OK....  I'm for it!

Ouch!  My wife gently told me that's the wrong answer.

A bag of ice and 2 aspirin will help a lot. I just glad she was gentle. 

 

[rsc2a]

The recent discussion on this thread is whether or not a gal should wear short, see through, tight, skimpy clothing in public.

OK....OK....  I'm for it!

Ouch!  My wife gently told me that's the wrong answer.

A bag of ice and 2 aspirin will help a lot. I just glad she was gentle. 

What does being a Gentile have to do with it?

 

[Bruh]

FTR, If a woman stood in front of me in a string bikini at the beach I would have no problem keeping my mind on Christ for I am to look at her as a sister in Christ.

Because I am that spiritual I can do this maybe you couldn't but I can. Just sayn.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

FTR, If a woman stood in front of me in a string bikini at the beach I would have no problem keeping my mind on Christ for I am to look at her as a sister in Christ.

Because I am that spiritual I can do this maybe you couldn't but I can. Just sayn.

What? What does spirituality have to do with that?

Different people have different temptations and that has nothing to do with being spiritual. Perhaps the guy who isn't tempted by nudity really struggles with materialism. Or pride. Or greed. Or hate. Or...

 

[brainisengaged]

This doubtful disputation is not likely to be resolved...

I had a sincere discussion with one of my jeans-wearing Christian girlfriends. It was just after the fall of JS when I started taking down my walls, looking around and questioning everything. I wanted to hear about her church and its practices, whereas before I had always been too haughty to even consider her church to be a church.

The question of standards came up, I brought it up since they are a major factor in our IFB practice of separation. I told her I primarily wear my skirts -- knowing it makes me look unusual in my profession (I am nearly always the only woman in a skirt wherever I am professionally) because it is what my husband prefers but also because I see it as "identification with Christ", much like a wedding band broadcasts my bond with my husband. Were I to not wear a skirt, I would feel I did not LOOK like a Christian. That has been ingrained in me, whether it is Biblical or extra-Biblical, I am not certain.

My friend accepted this, she obviously feels differently, but she accepted my words without rejoinder.

But then I come back to Matthew 5:16 "Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."

First impressions, people can automatically pigeon-hole me when they see me. "Fundamental Christian Woman." But...I hope as they get to know me they can see past the unusual attire and realize I am a caring, vibrant, qualified person who is not a brainwashed anomaly from a bygone era.

Many of you are never around people who are not exactly like you very much. I guess I should not assume that, but I do see a lot of it at FBC. People make sure their lives are 100% full of like-mindedness. That is perhaps what makes me feel a little more brazenly different -- I actually spend the majority of my time with people who are not like-minded fellow members of FBC. I hear real fear in the voice of many FBC members when they speak of having to mingle with "the world".

The only thing is, I meet LOTS of people "in the world" who are full of good works, caring spirits, active engagement in the benefit of others, intelligent, responsive, vital, engaging, professional -- they may or may not be Christians -- many are, but just cut of a different cloth. They have a light that shines through their lives. They would never dress as I do, they dress in attire that is more contemporary and appropriate to the era in which we are living. Their clothing does not veer into the land of lasciviousness -- they are professional, in a casual contemporary sort of way.

So then, I am back to -- how will people know I am a Christian unless I put on a kind of "Christian Uniform"

So I do faithfully wear my Christian uniform. Some preachers will claim that people who see you look different will want what you have because it is so different and so much better than what they have. Let me say, in 28 years of that has never happened to me. At most, a few brave souls who were either rude enough or comfortable enough to ask questions have said to me, "Why do you always wear skirts?" Some of you might thrill that I've been asked that question. You might think "There it is! The opportunity to witness!" One time it was a woman looking to trap me with my answer. I hate people who set other people up. I was a newer Christian at the time, and I said, "Because I believe it is more honoring to God and that the Bible teaches a woman is to not wear the attire of a man." She said, "What a legalistic answer!" At the time, I didn't know what a legalist was, and I didn't know that there are people who ask you questions on purpose just so they can slam you with their answer. So I just felt angry, embarrassed, and confused. Others who have questioned have been students or just people who marvel that I can function properly while dressed in a skirt.

And then I am back to....this illustration. For years I wanted to put a "Jesus fish" on our car. I like the symbol. It is a small, classy statement as opposed to a big crass bumpersticker, "HONK IF YOU LOVE JESUS!" But my husband would never acquiesce to the idea. He said he would hate to be seen cutting someone off (not that he has ever, ever done that) or going over the speed limit (again, theoretical for the sake of discussion) and bring reproach to the Savior because of the 'identification sticker' on the back of the vehicle.

So....No "Jesus fish" = License to behave inappropriately?
Does that translate to: No skirt on a woman = License to act un-Christ-like?

Do we need to don the uniform, wear the identification badges, and then use that to force us to act properly at all times?

Or should we be acting properly and doing right no matter what we are wearing? If I forget to wear my wedding ring one day, is that the day I can have an affair because no one would know I was married?

Can I don my shorts and halter top (you know we all have them secretly lurking in our closets, at the ready in case we just have to have a rebellious day) and just be a bad girl one day since no one will know I am a Christian when I dress in the world's uniform?

And while we're at it -- what is YOUR Christian uniform, men? Why do just we ladies have to look like Christians?

Just rambling, to contribute to the rambling nature of this thread.

[size=10pt]btw...fwiw....one doesn't take something "for granite". The expression is "for granted". Just something I read in an earlier reply on this thread and cannot neglect to mention just because something in me cannot let it go.[/size]

 

[Bruh]

FTR, If a woman stood in front of me in a string bikini at the beach I would have no problem keeping my mind on Christ for I am to look at her as a sister in Christ.

Because I am that spiritual I can do this maybe you couldn't but I can. Just sayn.

What? What does spirituality have to do with that?

Different people have different temptations and that has nothing to do with being spiritual. Perhaps the guy who isn't tempted by nudity really struggles with materialism. Or pride. Or greed. Or hate. Or...

I don't believe I have never laughed so hard at a post.
A guy that has no temptation with a nude lady?  OK!!!!!!

 

[Smellin Coffee]

FTR, If a woman stood in front of me in a string bikini at the beach I would have no problem keeping my mind on Christ for I am to look at her as a sister in Christ.

Because I am that spiritual I can do this maybe you couldn't but I can. Just sayn.

What? What does spirituality have to do with that?

Different people have different temptations and that has nothing to do with being spiritual. Perhaps the guy who isn't tempted by nudity really struggles with materialism. Or pride. Or greed. Or hate. Or...

I don't believe I have never laughed so hard at a post.
A guy that has no temptation with a nude lady?  OK!!!!!!

Ever hear of homosexuals? Are they more spiritual than you?

 

[Bruh]

So how does a man show he belongs to God? Since he does not wear dresses.

 

[Bruh]

FTR, If a woman stood in front of me in a string bikini at the beach I would have no problem keeping my mind on Christ for I am to look at her as a sister in Christ.

Because I am that spiritual I can do this maybe you couldn't but I can. Just sayn.

What? What does spirituality have to do with that?

Different people have different temptations and that has nothing to do with being spiritual. Perhaps the guy who isn't tempted by nudity really struggles with materialism. Or pride. Or greed. Or hate. Or...

I don't believe I have never laughed so hard at a post.
A guy that has no temptation with a nude lady?  OK!!!!!!

Ever hear of homosexuals? Are they more spiritual than you?

Please continue I needed a good laugh.

If you put a beautiful woman in a room alone with a gay man (that is not with a partner :)
And she wants to have sex with this gay man you better bet your bottom dollar that it will happen.

I know you gotta be smarter than that.

 

[brainisengaged]

Please continue I needed a good laugh.

If you put a beautiful woman in a room alone with a gay man (that is not with a partner :)
And she wants to have sex with this gay man you better bet your bottom dollar that it will happen.

I know you gotta be smarter than that.

Now I am laughing. Not really. I cry at ignorance like the above. Not all men are puppets ruled by their you-know-what.

 

[Bruh]

Please continue I needed a good laugh.

If you put a beautiful woman in a room alone with a gay man (that is not with a partner :)
And she wants to have sex with this gay man you better bet your bottom dollar that it will happen.

I know you gotta be smarter than that.

Now I am laughing. Not really. I cry at ignorance like the above. Not all men are puppets ruled by their you-know-what.

And I agree with you.

Smellin is trying to say that SOME men have NO temptation with this.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Please continue I needed a good laugh.

If you put a beautiful woman in a room alone with a gay man (that is not with a partner :)
And she wants to have sex with this gay man you better bet your bottom dollar that it will happen.

I know you gotta be smarter than that.

Now I am laughing. Not really. I cry at ignorance like the above. Not all men are puppets ruled by their you-know-what.

I agree.

One of the problems with the way religions of most stripes present sin, it is expected that men will be sexual ogres with women being objectified, hence the religious prohibitions concerning attire and such. So kids grow up with the belief that all males are attracted to all seeming attractive females in a sexual manner when that is not the reality. Bruh's statements exemplify this.

 

[Smellin Coffee]

Please continue I needed a good laugh.

If you put a beautiful woman in a room alone with a gay man (that is not with a partner :)
And she wants to have sex with this gay man you better bet your bottom dollar that it will happen.

I know you gotta be smarter than that.

Now I am laughing. Not really. I cry at ignorance like the above. Not all men are puppets ruled by their you-know-what.

And I agree with you.

Smellin is trying to say that SOME men have NO temptation with this.

That is exactly what I'm saying.

 

[brainisengaged]

Smellin correctly asserted that some men do not struggle in this area but may struggle in others, since no one is perfect after all.

 

[Bruh]

Please continue I needed a good laugh.

If you put a beautiful woman in a room alone with a gay man (that is not with a partner :)
And she wants to have sex with this gay man you better bet your bottom dollar that it will happen.

I know you gotta be smarter than that.

Now I am laughing. Not really. I cry at ignorance like the above. Not all men are puppets ruled by their you-know-what.

I agree.

One of the problems with the way religions of most stripes present sin, it is expected that men will be sexual ogres with women being objectified, hence the religious prohibitions concerning attire and such. So kids grow up with the belief that all males are attracted to all seeming attractive females in a sexual manner when that is not the reality. Bruh's statements exemplify this.

No.

 

[RAIDER]

The recent discussion on this thread is whether or not a gal should wear short, see through, tight, skimpy clothing in public.

OK....OK....  I'm for it!

Ouch!  My wife gently told me that's the wrong answer.

!!

 

[Bruh]

If anyone on here believes that if ANY man that had a woman sitting in front of them with their boobs hanging out and that man would have to on PURPOSE fight not to LOOK. your wrong. And lying. Or is not a man therefore wouldn't understand.

 

[Citadel of Truth]

FTR, If a woman stood in front of me in a string bikini at the beach I would have no problem keeping my mind on Christ for I am to look at her as a sister in Christ.

1. I couldn't. I'll be man enough to admit it.  8)

2. I don't believe you could either.