Stop Trump!!!

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praise_yeshua said:
What's so difficult to understand. Yes. If he wins. He will be considered a politician. The term candidate is used in the context of the profession.
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I see why it is so hard to talk to you. You don't understand basic English.
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Oh! THE irony!  ;D
Now, you know how it feels to talk to you, sometimes!
 
biscuit1953 said:
Even Fox News is seeing the deep seeded anger Americans have with the Republican establishment.  Roger Ailes pretty much acknowledged that the debate was a hit piece on Trump. 
http://toprightnews.com/foxnews-cries-uncle-gives-in-to-donald-trump-after-massive-viewer-revolt/
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I got so tired of Steve and Charles on the 6PM show bashing Trump and implying that those who like what he says as being "stupid"!!! I dumped the show.

I may not end up voting for Trump..... but the way those on Fox have bashed his supporters.... They know they made a mistake.

They purposely targeted Trump from the beginning.

Its also ironic how the "Megyn" Howard Stern video is making its rounds!!! I bet she didn't like that.
 
biscuit1953 said:
Even Fox News is seeing the deep seeded anger Americans have with the Republican establishment.  Roger Ailes pretty much acknowledged that the debate was a hit piece on Trump. 
http://toprightnews.com/foxnews-cries-uncle-gives-in-to-donald-trump-after-massive-viewer-revolt/
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I'd rather not have Trump as president, but it was a hit piece.  I'm glad Trump is shaking things up, though.  He's forcing the other candidates to be aggressive in order to keep up. 

Personally, my pick so far is Cruz with any of a number of possible running mates.  Carson or Fiorina would be good VPs.  I reserve the right to change my mind as things progress.

 
The Rogue Tomato said:
biscuit1953 said:
Even Fox News is seeing the deep seeded anger Americans have with the Republican establishment.  Roger Ailes pretty much acknowledged that the debate was a hit piece on Trump. 
http://toprightnews.com/foxnews-cries-uncle-gives-in-to-donald-trump-after-massive-viewer-revolt/
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I'd rather not have Trump as president, but it was a hit piece.  I'm glad Trump is shaking things up, though.  He's forcing the other candidates to be aggressive in order to keep up. 

Personally, my pick so far is Cruz with any of a number of possible running mates.  Carson or Fiorina would be good VPs.  I reserve the right to change my mind as things progress.
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I don't trust Cruz. I think he's pandering. I have never liked the way supposed "Christian politicians "pander"............. to the "Christian vote".

Its one of the reasons I have never supported Huckabee. Huckabee is probably the best of all the "Christian" candidates.

Its one reason I like Trump. I think he's being entirely honest. I'm tired of liars and pretenders. I probably won't end up voting for him.
 
I had soooo much to say and then the website goes down. Bummer.  So a few thoughts:

1. The specific question M Kelly asked was how Trump would answer the question from HILLARY that he was part of the war on women based on his comments. Who doesn't think Trump would not get that question from Hillary or any other Dem in a debate. Better learn how to answer it now.

2. But he couldn't. He went on to prove exactly why that question is a problem for him. He retweeted that M Kelly was a "bimbo", implied she was on her period and that's why she was "unfair" and "mean" to him. (Waaahhhhh!).  Someone else here also said M Kelly was a "bimbo"? What makes her a bimbo? (An "attractive but unintelligent women"). She is a lawyer, having represented Experian for nine years as well as other corporate clients and has made it to the top ranks of TV news. But you, Trump and others are calling her a "bimbo" because she gave your guy a legit question he couldn't handle. At least you haven't resorted to alluding to her aggressiveness as being on her period. Yep, good 'ol Donald.  LOL

3. Called Frank Luntz a "slob" because he didn't like the results of Luntz' focus group. What a wuss. Actually Luntz is a very capable and sought after pollster and works mostly in the corporate world now because he has soured on the political world and the empty promises.

4. Complained how "overrated"and a lightweight M Kelly is....than posted tweet after tweet after tweet until 4:30 in the morning whining about her!  LOL. What a thin-skinned baby. Methinks she really got to the "tough guy". :)

5. Questions were totally fair and relevant. EVERY candidate had at least one very difficult question.  Trump just couldn't handle his.  He was asked character issue questions more than policy questions because he hasn't made any policy. Is Fox just supposed to roll over and be easy because they are Rupublicans? That's not fair and balanced. (BTW...I have heard Trump say Ailes has kissed up and apologized. But I haven't heard anything from Ailes himself.

6. Some have been critical of the "raise your hand" question from Bret Bair.  He has done the exact same thing in other debates.  And when you want to ask 10 people a yes or no question what's wrong with asking for a show of hands....especially when it's the first thing on many people's minds.

7. Who cares what M Kelly said on Howard's Stern's show? She's not running for president. Where is the moral equivalent? (I remind you the question was posed as from Hillary's point of view).

8. More of the man-child's complaining after people hold him accountable:  About Carly Fiorina after she told him there was no excuse for the crack he made M Kelly "wasn't fair  :'(  - Listening to her for 10 mins gives you a headache.  About Erik Larson after being dis-invited to the RedState event for the same comments- "A major sleaze and buffoon"

9. Finally, I believe he is a very insecure person. For someone who really has accomplished so much it seems he has so much to prove and an incessant need to brag about EVERYTHING.., who his friends are, what he has, how HE is responsible for the success of everything, yada, yada, yada. He is exceptionally thin-skinned and really does act like a petulant child. Maybe that is what has pushed him to be so successful in business. If the planets were to align, the oceans to part and a fog of stupidity hang over the country on election day and Trump were elected, I sure hope Putin "treats him fair".  ::)  :)
 
Just John said:
I had soooo much to say and then the website goes down. Bummer.  So a few thoughts:

1. The specific question M Kelly asked was how Trump would answer the question from HILLARY that he was part of the war on women based on his comments. Who doesn't think Trump would not get that question from Hillary or any other Dem in a debate. Better learn how to answer it now.

2. But he couldn't. He went on to prove exactly why that question is a problem for him. He retweeted that M Kelly was a "bimbo", implied she was on her period and that's why she was "unfair" and "mean" to him. (Waaahhhhh!).  Someone else here also said M Kelly was a "bimbo"? What makes her a bimbo? (An "attractive but unintelligent women"). She is a lawyer, having represented Experian for nine years as well as other corporate clients and has made it to the top ranks of TV news. But you, Trump and others are calling her a "bimbo" because she gave your guy a legit question he couldn't handle. At least you haven't resorted to alluding to her aggressiveness as being on her period. Yep, good 'ol Donald.  LOL

3. Called Frank Luntz a "slob" because he didn't like the results of Luntz' focus group. What a wuss. Actually Luntz is a very capable and sought after pollster and works mostly in the corporate world now because he has soured on the political world and the empty promises.

4. Complained how "overrated"and a lightweight M Kelly is....than posted tweet after tweet after tweet until 4:30 in the morning whining about her!  LOL. What a thin-skinned baby. Methinks she really got to the "tough guy". :)

5. Questions were totally fair and relevant. EVERY candidate had at least one very difficult question.  Trump just couldn't handle his.  He was asked character issue questions more than policy questions because he hasn't made any policy. Is Fox just supposed to roll over and be easy because they are Rupublicans? That's not fair and balanced. (BTW...I have heard Trump say Ailes has kissed up and apologized. But I haven't heard anything from Ailes himself.

6. Some have been critical of the "raise your hand" question from Bret Bair.  He has done the exact same thing in other debates.  And when you want to ask 10 people a yes or no question what's wrong with asking for a show of hands....especially when it's the first thing on many people's minds.

7. Who cares what M Kelly said on Howard's Stern's show? She's not running for president. Where is the moral equivalent? (I remind you the question was posed as from Hillary's point of view).

8. More of the man-child's complaining after people hold him accountable:  About Carly Fiorina after she told him there was no excuse for the crack he made M Kelly "wasn't fair  :'(  - Listening to her for 10 mins gives you a headache.  About Erik Larson after being dis-invited to the RedState event for the same comments- "A major sleaze and buffoon"

9. Finally, I believe he is a very insecure person. For someone who really has accomplished so much it seems he has so much to prove and an incessant need to brag about EVERYTHING.., who his friends are, what he has, how HE is responsible for the success of everything, yada, yada, yada. He is exceptionally thin-skinned and really does act like a petulant child. Maybe that is what has pushed him to be so successful in business. If the planets were to align, the oceans to part and a fog of stupidity hang over the country on election day and Trump were elected, I sure hope Putin "treats him fair".  ::)  :)
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All of that is probably true, I confess I gave it a cursory reading.
But, THE point is, it doesn't matter, at least not at this point in time.
Trump's supporters are his supporters because he is like he is....and more importantly because the establishment politicians and media, Fox News included in this specific grouping, don't like him and demand an apology. Trump doubles down and tells them where to go and what to do...and his support increases.
What I hope is that Trupmp soon fades and that viable candidates get the message and don't wage a same old same old mealy mouthed, limp wristed campaign.
 
Just John said:
I had soooo much to say and then the website goes down. Bummer.  So a few thoughts:

1. The specific question M Kelly asked was how Trump would answer the question from HILLARY that he was part of the war on women based on his comments. Who doesn't think Trump would not get that question from Hillary or any other Dem in a debate. Better learn how to answer it now.

2. But he couldn't. He went on to prove exactly why that question is a problem for him. He retweeted that M Kelly was a "bimbo", implied she was on her period and that's why she was "unfair" and "mean" to him. (Waaahhhhh!).  Someone else here also said M Kelly was a "bimbo"? What makes her a bimbo? (An "attractive but unintelligent women"). She is a lawyer, having represented Experian for nine years as well as other corporate clients and has made it to the top ranks of TV news. But you, Trump and others are calling her a "bimbo" because she gave your guy a legit question he couldn't handle. At least you haven't resorted to alluding to her aggressiveness as being on her period. Yep, good 'ol Donald.  LOL

3. Called Frank Luntz a "slob" because he didn't like the results of Luntz' focus group. What a wuss. Actually Luntz is a very capable and sought after pollster and works mostly in the corporate world now because he has soured on the political world and the empty promises.

4. Complained how "overrated"and a lightweight M Kelly is....than posted tweet after tweet after tweet until 4:30 in the morning whining about her!  LOL. What a thin-skinned baby. Methinks she really got to the "tough guy". :)

5. Questions were totally fair and relevant. EVERY candidate had at least one very difficult question.  Trump just couldn't handle his.  He was asked character issue questions more than policy questions because he hasn't made any policy. Is Fox just supposed to roll over and be easy because they are Rupublicans? That's not fair and balanced. (BTW...I have heard Trump say Ailes has kissed up and apologized. But I haven't heard anything from Ailes himself.

6. Some have been critical of the "raise your hand" question from Bret Bair.  He has done the exact same thing in other debates.  And when you want to ask 10 people a yes or no question what's wrong with asking for a show of hands....especially when it's the first thing on many people's minds.

7. Who cares what M Kelly said on Howard's Stern's show? She's not running for president. Where is the moral equivalent? (I remind you the question was posed as from Hillary's point of view).

8. More of the man-child's complaining after people hold him accountable:  About Carly Fiorina after she told him there was no excuse for the crack he made M Kelly "wasn't fair  :'(  - Listening to her for 10 mins gives you a headache.  About Erik Larson after being dis-invited to the RedState event for the same comments- "A major sleaze and buffoon"

9. Finally, I believe he is a very insecure person. For someone who really has accomplished so much it seems he has so much to prove and an incessant need to brag about EVERYTHING.., who his friends are, what he has, how HE is responsible for the success of everything, yada, yada, yada. He is exceptionally thin-skinned and really does act like a petulant child. Maybe that is what has pushed him to be so successful in business. If the planets were to align, the oceans to part and a fog of stupidity hang over the country on election day and Trump were elected, I sure hope Putin "treats him fair".  ::)  :)
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1. Hilary was smoke screen to disguise bimbo's intent. Sure, they will ask the question now that bimbo asked it. Hilary hadn't said one thing about Trump till bimbo started it. Relying on the "it was coming anyway" is rather lame.

2. Trump didn't imply anything about "bimbo's" period. You're a moron if you think he's stupid enough to make such a mistake. Your depraved mind filled in the blanks. Its easy to settle it and the media could have settled it. They could have asked what he meant by "where ever". He would have told them what he meant. Instead, the dishonest morons ran with it. Apparently you're running with it.

Yes. I did imply you're a moron by association. Its okay. Someone was going to imply it anyway. Maybe your wife or your children!!!

See. See how easy it is to use such stupid logic. Logic that "bimbo" used in asking the question to start with.

3. Luntz got it horrible wrong. His polling in the focus group had 3 people that still supported Trump. Trump is STILL LEADING ALL THE POLLS.... POST DEBATE.

Trump explained that Luntz asked him for money and he refused. Luntz created a sku'd focus group to get back at Donald. Slob is a rather good word for him.

4. Trump was mad. I would have been mad. She is overrated. OReilly created her. If he hadn't.... she'd still be wearing braless shirts and flashing skin to get attention. Which, by the way, leads into point 7.

5. I hear you. No policy questions since you have no policy. That makes sense. Are you really that dumb? I don't think you are....

6. A MAN.... .would have asked Trump directly. He would asked a DIRECT question.... instead of bringing everyone else into the question. If you're going to do that kind of questioning.... then all of the questions should have been given to all the candidates and let everyone answer the same question. They didn't do this. They focused this one question to them all to make Trump look bad.

7. Hilary was a smoke screen. "bimbo" used it for cover. Again. Hilary hadn't said one thing about Trump. You have no evidence she would.

The Stern video is important. So important that 'bimbo' won't even discuss it. She did the interview to get attention. She got attention. NOW!!!!!!!!!!!! she wants to distance herself from it.

Can I ask you a similar question? "Bimbo" brought up what Trump had said on a TV show where he was famous for being hard on contestants. Why would you accept this form of information and deny that the "bimbo" video had any relevance to a double standard by bimbo?

Hypocrite.

8. Erik Larson is a sleazy. He dis-invited Carson because he is racist. He made up a silly excuse to dump him and even lied about him. Fiorina will give you a headache. She talks in circles. She wasn't a very good head of HP. She ran the company into the ground. Something you morons want to point at in Trump but ignore in everyone else.

9. Good grief. Why don't you smoke another crack pipe!!!!

Anything is better than what we have NOW!!! You've lived with it for almost 8 years. 8 years of lies. I suppose you're glad when politicians lie to you?

For the record. Trump was rather smart to use the "bimbo" term in reference to "Kelly".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bimbo

Fox definitely uses her as "eye candy" for the news. Just like it uses Kimberly and others. Bimbo fits rather well.

 
Interesting...just a few weeks ago, PY took offense when I said he called people morons. Now he's done it quite a few times in a single post.
 
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Interesting...just a few weeks ago, PY took offense when I said he called people morons. Now he's done it quite a few times in a single post.
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I used an "IF" to qualify by "moron" comment.

You must believe there's no "IF" about it!!!!

You really are slow.
 
"The morons said..."
"I implied you were a moron. Someone had to say it..."

To say nothing of the fact that you called multiple other people multiple names.

I've asked before (repeatedly) and you've refused to answer (repeatedly)...can you provide a single example of where you showed grace, empathy or kindness to another individual?

I'll now add...if you can't, what evidence can show to demonstrate that you are a Jesus follower because, frankly, the statements you have been recently making are far from the driving ethic of "love one another" that should motivate a Christian?
 
subllibrm said:
I call hearts.
















Euchre, the state card game of Michigan. ;D
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U coming low or high?

Haklo

 
Trump isn't going anywhere.

Trump 2016!
 
rsc2a said:
"The morons said..."
"I implied you were a moron. Someone had to say it..."

To say nothing of the fact that you called multiple other people multiple names.

I've asked before (repeatedly) and you've refused to answer (repeatedly)...can you provide a single example of where you showed grace, empathy or kindness to another individual?

I'll now add...if you can't, what evidence can show to demonstrate that you are a Jesus follower because, frankly, the statements you have been recently making are far from the driving ethic of "love one another" that should motivate a Christian?
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My implication was sarcasm based on question 1. You're still slow!!!!

I don't have to provide the evidence you request. I will say that I have..... many times..... I try not to "boast" of anything. You're asking me to boast and I'm not doing what Paul did to prove a point. If you can't see.... then you don't want to see it.

Either way, you're obsessed with me. I reckon.... I should be flattered..... but I'm not. Go play with someone/something else.
 
praise_yeshua said:
rsc2a said:
I've asked before (repeatedly) and you've refused to answer (repeatedly)...can you provide a single example of where you showed grace, empathy or kindness to another individual?

I'll now add...if you can't, what evidence can show to demonstrate that you are a Jesus follower because, frankly, the statements you have been recently making are far from the driving ethic of "love one another" that should motivate a Christian?
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I don't have to provide the evidence you request. I will say that I have..... many times..... I try not to "boast" of anything. You're asking me to boast and I'm not doing what Paul did to prove a point. If you can't see.... then you don't want to see it.
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When a person's pattern of behaviour shows they have no regard at all for their fellow man...worse yet, shows nothing but contempt for the rest of humanity...and they are unwilling to provide even one piece of evidence that they are a Jesus follower in any substantial way...

Oh...a point is definitely being proven.
 
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praise_yeshua said:
rsc2a said:
I've asked before (repeatedly) and you've refused to answer (repeatedly)...can you provide a single example of where you showed grace, empathy or kindness to another individual?

I'll now add...if you can't, what evidence can show to demonstrate that you are a Jesus follower because, frankly, the statements you have been recently making are far from the driving ethic of "love one another" that should motivate a Christian?
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I don't have to provide the evidence you request. I will say that I have..... many times..... I try not to "boast" of anything. You're asking me to boast and I'm not doing what Paul did to prove a point. If you can't see.... then you don't want to see it.
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When a person's pattern of behaviour shows they have no regard at all for their fellow man...worse yet, shows nothing but contempt for the rest of humanity...and they are unwilling to provide even one piece of evidence that they are a Jesus follower in any substantial way...

Oh...a point is definitely being proven.
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You misspelled behavior. Exactly what is my pattern of "behaviour".

You certain must feel powerful to know who's part of the body of Christ and who isn't!!! I think that illusion of "power" has gone to your head.

You can't hang when it comes to the Scripture because you don't know them. You pretend you do, but you don't. So.... you try to compensate for your inadequacies in the Scriptures..... by bashing my position in Christ.

In fact, this is the tactic most used by haters of God throughout the centuries. They did it to Jesus. They did it the Apostles. Now.... you're doing it to me. When Jesus took the Pharisees in their own words..... they had no choice but to claim that Jesus was of the devil. That he didn't follow God. When the Jews couldn't defend their beliefs in the face of Paul's Gospel..... they sought to kill him. To turn his friends against him. I feel in good company.

Thanks for the support. You've provided your own proof of my position!!! 
 
Your pattern of behaviour?

It's displayed as "...sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these..." and nothing like "...love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,gentleness, self-control..."

It's not even a new idea since I've used the same passage repeatedly to compare and contrast your prior statements in the past.

Some examples:

- Repeatedly calling others names such as idiot, moron, stupid, nuts, etc
- Explicitly stating profit should supersede ethics in business
- Bombastic language meant to demean and belittle others
- Saying the church has no obligation to help her poor...Scratch that...actually saying they shouldn't.
- Saying Christians have no obligation to be salt and light into the world. In fact, saying we should be a picture of depravity.
- Actively wishing ill on others

I could go on, but the point is made. Can I judge another? If they call themselves a believer, absolutely. And I have asked for you to provide any evidence of regeneration to see if my judgment is in error...evidence you cannot or will not provide. Of course, conclusions will be drawn, but thanks be to God that it is He, and not I, who decides who He calls son.
 
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Your pattern of behaviour?

It's displayed as "...sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these..." and nothing like "...love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,gentleness, self-control..."
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You spelled behavior wrong again. Are you from Australia or England? or maybe "Canada"?

It finally comes out. Either way, you're not an American. Typical liberal "Brits". Think they know everything.

Sexual immorality? Orgies? Did we meet somewhere in college? I don't remember any orgies or sexual immorality. I don't know how you know if I did.

- Repeatedly calling others names such as idiot, moron, stupid, nuts, etc
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Poor baby. I remember some of the threads at the old FFF when people would start complaining about such things. They were rather comical. You're just a whiner.

- Explicitly stating profit should supersede ethics in business
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Never said it. Don't believe it. You're just sore I busted your theology.

- Bombastic language meant to demean and belittle others
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Like the word "hypocrite"? I got that from the bible..... or maybe... liar? I got that from the bible too!!

- Saying the church has no obligation to help her poor...Scratch that...actually saying they shouldn't.
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Liar. I never said that. Don't believe it. Sure they should help the poor. No. They shouldn't continually help those that can help themselves.

- Saying Christians have no obligation to be salt and light into the world. In fact, saying we should be a picture of depravity.
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Ridiculous. I made a theological argument concerning the teaching of Jesus and the Jewish nation. I can't help you don't understand it. The Truth eludes you at times.

No. You're not the salt of the earth. Israel was. They failed. The Light of the world is Jesus Christ. Not you. We cast shadows. We aren't "that light". Do you remember those words and who said them? Probably not. Spend some time googling them.

- Actively wishing ill on others
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Nonsense. I have never actively wished ill on others. In fact, I've preached against it.

I could go on, but the point is made. Can I judge another? If they call themselves a believer, absolutely. And I have asked for you to provide any evidence of regeneration to see if my judgment is in error...evidence you cannot or will not provide. Of course, conclusions will be drawn, but thanks be to God that it is He, and not I, who decides who He calls son.
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Judge whatever. You'll answer to God for it. I haven't went as far as to question your position in Christ. You're doing that to ME!!!!

Jesus is the Christ. The Son of the Living God. My savior. My Redeemer. My friend. I've told you that more than once. I'm not the one with the problem. You are.
 
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