The Case That Threatens the Presidency

illinoisguy said:
I am trying to figure out what the Epstein case has to do with Israel. Rumor has it that Epstein was a Mossad agent engaged in entrapment and blackmailing activities against prominent Americans, and that release of the Epstein files would be damaging to Israel's reputation. If this is not true, then let's release the files so that Israel, the nation that Biscuit and 80,000,000 other Christian Zionists in America, love so much, can be exonerated and freed from suspicion on this issue. If there's nothing to hide, nothing to see here, then go ahead and release the files.

But rumor also has it that Bibi has asked that the Epstein files not be released, so I guess we have to do what Bibi tells us to do, just like we have to bomb Iran for him if that's what he wants.

Meanwhile, we all yearn for the establishment of world peace when Christ returns, but justice for Epstein's victims need not necessarily wait for the Second Coming.
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It has also been rumored Epstein is connected to the CIA and yet you focus solely on Israel. You state as a fact that Trump does Bibi's bidding just like any good conspiracy theorist. Its no secret you are no friend of Israel but you should not let your prejudice get in the way of spreading "rumors."
 
Funny, I don't recall "stating as a fact that Trump does Bibi's bidding." The rumors about Epstein and the Mossad are already out there, no thanks to me. If we are so sensitive about any mention of a possible connection between Epstein and Israel, and if there is actually no such connection, then let's release the Epstein files so that Israel can be cleared of any suspicion and the rumors can be proven false.
 
illinoisguy said:
Funny, I don't recall "stating as a fact that Trump does Bibi's bidding." The rumors about Epstein and the Mossad are already out there, no thanks to me. If we are so sensitive about any mention of a possible connection between Epstein and Israel, and if there is actually no such connection, then let's release the Epstein files so that Israel can be cleared of any suspicion and the rumors can be proven false.
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Here are some more rumors you can spread. Lets include everybody.

The list of associates of Jeffrey Epstein now includes a CIA chief, a college president and a former White House counsel, according to the Wall Street Journal.
Burns, the 67-year-old CIA chief, met with Epstein about 10 years ago when he was looking to leave the government, CIA spokeswoman Tammy Kupperman Thorp told the Journal.

nypost.com

New Jeffrey Epstein docs reveal pedophile met with CIA chief, former White House counsel — after his child sex crime conviction

The list of Jeffrey Epstein’s associates now includes America’s spy chief, a college president and a former White House counsel, according to unreported documents.
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illinoisguy said:
Rumor has it that Epstein was a Mossad
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Suuuuuuure he was.

Mossad managed to hornswoggle Hamas, Hezbollah and the IRGC without anyone knowing, and we're expected to believe one of their agents had a 40-year career exploiting underage girls--and going to jail for it more than once--while simultaneously keeping such a low profile that no one noticed he was a Mossad spy?

Pull the other one!
 
biscuit1953 said:
It has also been rumored Epstein is connected to the CIA and yet you focus solely on Israel. Y
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Any particular reason you're trying to deflect away from that? Assuming for the sake of argument the rumours are true, then if it's a fact, it's a fact.
 
Ransom said:
Any particular reason you're trying to deflect away from that? Assuming for the sake of argument the rumours are true, then if it's a fact, it's a fact.
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Not trying to deflect from that at all. I’m just tired of all the Jew bashing and lack of any empathy for them even from Christians. After the October 7 massacre there was over a 1000% increase in antisemitic attacks in some European nations like France and thousands of antisemitic attacks around the world. In 2024 alone there were almost 10,000 antisemitic incidents in the United States and on some college campuses students were allowed to chant “from the river to the sea” with similar chants calling for the murder of Jewish people at UCLA and the University of Minnesota with no repercussions. They were blaming Israel for the massacre that took place. I heard a Jew say one time, “I know we are God’s chosen people but why did He have to pick us?” I know bad humor.

Many are implying because of rumors they have read that Israel is responsible for the Epstein files being suppressed with no proof at all. If Israel did have something to do with Epstein’s horrific crimes then they should be condemned for it.
 
Everybody has their opinion. I don't care. It won't touch my life one iota.
 
Ransom said:
Any particular reason you're trying to deflect away from that? Assuming for the sake of argument the rumours are true, then if it's a fact, it's a fact.
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I follow this young 25 year old genius lawyer woman on X. She's the kind I'd predict would be on the supreme Court one day. But she has a totally believable case for the whole thing being an Israeli conspiracy. I just shake my head. How can such intelligent people be so desirous of making Israel to be this global conspiracy creator that they abandon all reason?
 
Bob Jones VI said:
How can such intelligent people be so desirous of making Israel to be this global conspiracy creator that they abandon all reason?
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Mossad is good, no doubt, but if they were the invincible intelligence machine the conspiracy buffs make them out to be, then the last thing I'd want to be doing was loudly blaming Israel for everything.
 
Six years ago, I made a film with Kathy Newman for Channel Four called 'The Prince and the Pedophile' about Jeffrey Epstein and Prince Andrew. In the wake of that film, I had a series of very lengthy telephone conversations with Virginia Giuffre, who was Jeffrey Epstein's best known victim, Virginia told me all the men she was farmed out to. And that in itself, is a lengthy and horrifying list of men, and it would not surprise me at all if President Trump was striving to protect those people.​
https://twitter.com/x/status/1980204172105437355
 
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So Alexander Acosta, who was Trump's secretary for labor in the first administration, back at the time Epstein was arrested, in 2007 / 2008, he was the US Attorney for southern Florida, in his hearings to take the job of Secretary for labor for Trump, he reportedly said that he had been told 'Epstein belongs to intelligence. Leave him alone.' It seems to me absolutely clear Epstein had connections to the intelligence services, probably to Mossad, probably to the American intelligence services. Of course, Ghislaine Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, is well known as having had extensive links to the intelligence services, Robert Maxwell was buried on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem. His funeral was attended by six former heads of Israeli intelligence, and he was eulogized by the serving Israeli prime minister, Yitzhak Shamir, who said he has done more for Israel than can today be told. Robert Maxwell very definitely moved in that world. Whether Jeffrey Epstein had connections to the intelligence services in the same way that Robert Maxwell did, I should think it's quite likely.​
 
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