The establishment is trying to destroy Cruz.

[praise_yeshua]

Well... here's a poltical report on the rule changes the new committee members are looking to implement.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/republican-convention-rules-trump-cruz-221355

The four took issue with a rule, originally imposed by Mitt Romney forces in 2012 to keep rival Ron Paul off the convention stage, requiring a candidate to win a majority of delegates in eight states to be eligible for the party?s nomination -- a threshold only Trump has exceeded so far. If preserved, the rule could block John Kasich or Ted Cruz from competing with Trump at the convention, set for July in Cleveland.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/republican-convention-rules-trump-cruz-221355#ixzz44Ok3Xb70
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

Will you question this report "JohnJohn"?

 

[Just John]

Just John:
Why more delegates? The Republican Party allocates each state ten delegates, plus three for each congressional district, and bonus delegates for states that contributed electoral votes to the party in the previous presidential election, as well those that elected Republicans to high offices. As maybe you can see, this means the number of allotted delegates are not the same each cycle because of bonus delegates based on individual state elections. This year the nominee needs to win 129 more delegates but it's proportional to how many more are available. No tricks.

Praise_Yeshua:
This doesn't account for a roughly 260 delegate increase from 2012.

as well those that elected Republicans to high offices

How is this fair?

Waah!!!!

It should be fairly obvious but let me walk you through it:

Each state automatically gets ten delegates each = Static amount
Each state gets another 3 delegates per congressional district = Static amount
Each state that cast its electoral votes (or a majority thereof) for the Republican nominee in the preceding election receives "bonus delegates". This is to reward states who vote Republican and give them more influence in the party. = Variable amount

Each state is assigned a delegate for the following Variable amount:

- Electing a GOP governor
- Electing GOP to least one half of of the state's delegations to the House of Representatives
- Electing the GOP to a majority of the members of a chamber of the state legislature
- Electing the GOP to a majority of the members of all chambers of the state legislature.
- Electing a GOP U.S. Senator (in the six-year period preceding the presidential election year).[/list]


Again, this is to reward and give preference to those states that are more representative of the GOP. As you may know, the vast majority of the state legislatures are Republican, majority of governors are Republicans, the Senate and the House are controlled by the GOP.  This has increased the amount of delegates to convention and yes, the number of delegates to win the nomination has also increased but only proportional to the increase in overall delegates. No tricks. No conspiracies. Really. All done before anyone knew Trump would be running.

 

[praise_yeshua]

The primary rules for this year were set up to help select a nominee earlier in the process. As a result it has benefited Trump rather than hurt him but he likely will still not win enough delegates before the convention,

Explain to me how its benefited Trump? There are more delegates need this cycle than previous cycles? You're failing miserably to answer my question.

You could try to understand or do a little research of your own:

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42533.pdf

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/01/24/gop-adopts-changes-to-2016-presidential-primary-process/

http://frontloading.blogspot.com/2016/03/2016-republican-delegate-allocation_8.html

Either highlight what pertains to the my question or take a hike. You can't answer my question so you just pretend I don't understand the process.

You can't add 260 more delegates in 2016 and claim its easier now for someone to get the nomination versus 2012. Your math doesn't add up.

You don't care.

 

[praise_yeshua]

• Just John:
  Why more delegates? The Republican Party allocates each state ten delegates, plus three for each congressional district, and bonus delegates for states that contributed electoral votes to the party in the previous presidential election, as well those that elected Republicans to high offices. As maybe you can see, this means the number of allotted delegates are not the same each cycle because of bonus delegates based on individual state elections. This year the nominee needs to win 129 more delegates but it's proportional to how many more are available. No tricks.

  
  

  Praise_Yeshua:
  This doesn't account for a roughly 260 delegate increase from 2012.
  
  as well those that elected Republicans to high offices
  
  How is this fair?

  
  Waah!!!!
  
  It should be fairly obvious but let me walk you through it:
  
  Each state automatically gets ten delegates each = Static amount
  Each state gets another 3 delegates per congressional district = Static amount
  Each state that cast its electoral votes (or a majority thereof) for the Republican nominee in the preceding election receives "bonus delegates". This is to reward states who vote Republican and give them more influence in the party. = Variable amount
  
  Each state is assigned a delegate for the following Variable amount:
  
  - Electing a GOP governor
  - Electing GOP to least one half of of the state's delegations to the House of Representatives
  - Electing the GOP to a majority of the members of a chamber of the state legislature
  - Electing the GOP to a majority of the members of all chambers of the state legislature.
  - Electing a GOP U.S. Senator (in the six-year period preceding the presidential election year).

Again, this is to reward and give preference to those states that are more representative of the GOP. As you may know, the vast majority of the state legislatures are Republican, majority of governors are Republicans, the Senate and the House are controlled by the GOP.  This has increased the amount of delegates to convention and yes, the number of delegates to win the nomination has also increased but only proportional to the increase in overall delegates. No tricks. No conspiracies. Really. All done before anyone knew Trump would be running.

I asked how is this fair?

Its nothing more than an excuse to raise the delegate requirement. I never said it had anything to do with Trump. You're one saying its easier to win this time around than it was in 2012. Which is a down right lie.

Keep up would you?

 

[Just John]

Well... here's a poltical report on the rule changes the new committee members are looking to implement.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/republican-convention-rules-trump-cruz-221355

The four took issue with a rule, originally imposed by Mitt Romney forces in 2012 to keep rival Ron Paul off the convention stage, requiring a candidate to win a majority of delegates in eight states to be eligible for the party?s nomination -- a threshold only Trump has exceeded so far. If preserved, the rule could block John Kasich or Ted Cruz from competing with Trump at the convention, set for July in Cleveland.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/republican-convention-rules-trump-cruz-221355#ixzz44Ok3Xb70
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

Will you question this report "JohnJohn"?

Well gee, refer to my post #35. and I was a day ahead of Politico. 

I also said I have no idea what the rules committee will do and I don't. Each convention they, as representatives of the party and made up as a representation of the assigned delegates, make the rules. Way it works. He with the most gold (delegates) tends to make the rules.  We know very few people on the rules committee for now.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Well... here's a poltical report on the rule changes the new committee members are looking to implement.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/republican-convention-rules-trump-cruz-221355

The four took issue with a rule, originally imposed by Mitt Romney forces in 2012 to keep rival Ron Paul off the convention stage, requiring a candidate to win a majority of delegates in eight states to be eligible for the party?s nomination -- a threshold only Trump has exceeded so far. If preserved, the rule could block John Kasich or Ted Cruz from competing with Trump at the convention, set for July in Cleveland.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/republican-convention-rules-trump-cruz-221355#ixzz44Ok3Xb70
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

Will you question this report "JohnJohn"?

Well gee, refer to my post #35. and I was a day ahead of Politico. 

I also said I have no idea what the rules committee will do and I don't. Each convention they, as representatives of the party and made up as a representation of the assigned delegates, make the rules. Way it works. He with the most gold (delegates) tends to make the rules.  We know very few people on the rules committee for now.

You are probably one of very few who have no idea, then.

The same people who instituted the Ron Paul rule because it was to their advantage will remove the Ron Paul rule because that will now be to their advantage. They are known as the establishment. They now support Ted Cruz, my preferred candidate, but only to keep Trump from getting a majority of delegates. If that succeeds, they will then drop Cruz like a rock and try to get their preferred candidate nominated. He will then proceed to lose like the rest of their candidates.

The establishment would rather lose (they are very good at that) with Bush, Romney, Kasich etc than win with Trump or Cruz.

 

[Just John]

Well... here's a poltical report on the rule changes the new committee members are looking to implement.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/republican-convention-rules-trump-cruz-221355

The four took issue with a rule, originally imposed by Mitt Romney forces in 2012 to keep rival Ron Paul off the convention stage, requiring a candidate to win a majority of delegates in eight states to be eligible for the party?s nomination -- a threshold only Trump has exceeded so far. If preserved, the rule could block John Kasich or Ted Cruz from competing with Trump at the convention, set for July in Cleveland.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/republican-convention-rules-trump-cruz-221355#ixzz44Ok3Xb70
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

Will you question this report "JohnJohn"?

Well gee, refer to my post #35. and I was a day ahead of Politico. 

I also said I have no idea what the rules committee will do and I don't. Each convention they, as representatives of the party and made up as a representation of the assigned delegates, make the rules. Way it works. He with the most gold (delegates) tends to make the rules.  We know very few people on the rules committee for now.

You are probably one of very few who have no idea, then.

The same people who instituted the Ron Paul rule because it was to their advantage will remove the Ron Paul rule because that will now be to their advantage. They are known as the establishment. They now support Ted Cruz, my preferred candidate, but only to keep Trump from getting a majority of delegates. If that succeeds, they will then drop Cruz like a rock and try to get their preferred candidate nominated. He will then proceed to lose like the rest of their candidates.

The establishment would rather lose (they are very good at that) with Bush, Romney, Kasich etc than win with Trump or Cruz.

Sorry, beg to differ. Romney delegates wrote the rules in 2012 because they dominated the rules committee because he dominated the delegates. Let's see who is on the rules committee. Now Trump likely won't control it because he likely won't have enough delegates. So sad, too bad. No participation trophies. You win on the first ballot or you fight it out. Has happened many times.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Well... here's a poltical report on the rule changes the new committee members are looking to implement.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/republican-convention-rules-trump-cruz-221355

The four took issue with a rule, originally imposed by Mitt Romney forces in 2012 to keep rival Ron Paul off the convention stage, requiring a candidate to win a majority of delegates in eight states to be eligible for the party?s nomination -- a threshold only Trump has exceeded so far. If preserved, the rule could block John Kasich or Ted Cruz from competing with Trump at the convention, set for July in Cleveland.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/republican-convention-rules-trump-cruz-221355#ixzz44Ok3Xb70
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

Will you question this report "JohnJohn"?

Well gee, refer to my post #35. and I was a day ahead of Politico. 

I also said I have no idea what the rules committee will do and I don't. Each convention they, as representatives of the party and made up as a representation of the assigned delegates, make the rules. Way it works. He with the most gold (delegates) tends to make the rules.  We know very few people on the rules committee for now.

You are probably one of very few who have no idea, then.

The same people who instituted the Ron Paul rule because it was to their advantage will remove the Ron Paul rule because that will now be to their advantage. They are known as the establishment. They now support Ted Cruz, my preferred candidate, but only to keep Trump from getting a majority of delegates. If that succeeds, they will then drop Cruz like a rock and try to get their preferred candidate nominated. He will then proceed to lose like the rest of their candidates.

The establishment would rather lose (they are very good at that) with Bush, Romney, Kasich etc than win with Trump or Cruz.

Sorry, beg to differ. Romney delegates wrote the rules in 2012 because they dominated the rules committee because he dominated the delegates. Let's see who is on the rules committee. Now Trump likely won't control it because he likely won't have enough delegates. So sad, too bad. No participation trophies. You win on the first ballot or you fight it out. Has happened many times.

I'm sure you're right JJ.
Just business as usual in the Grand Old Party.
And, I'm also sure that the vast majority of their voters totally agree and will simply vote for the duly elected, er..appointed nominee. 

Did I mention that the establishment would rather lose (they are very good at that) with Bush, Romney, Kasich etc than win with Trump or Cruz.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Well... here's a poltical report on the rule changes the new committee members are looking to implement.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/republican-convention-rules-trump-cruz-221355

The four took issue with a rule, originally imposed by Mitt Romney forces in 2012 to keep rival Ron Paul off the convention stage, requiring a candidate to win a majority of delegates in eight states to be eligible for the party?s nomination -- a threshold only Trump has exceeded so far. If preserved, the rule could block John Kasich or Ted Cruz from competing with Trump at the convention, set for July in Cleveland.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/republican-convention-rules-trump-cruz-221355#ixzz44Ok3Xb70
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

Will you question this report "JohnJohn"?

Well gee, refer to my post #35. and I was a day ahead of Politico. 

I also said I have no idea what the rules committee will do and I don't. Each convention they, as representatives of the party and made up as a representation of the assigned delegates, make the rules. Way it works. He with the most gold (delegates) tends to make the rules.  We know very few people on the rules committee for now.

You're the one that bashed me for using a source you didn't like. Did you forget? That source said the same things....

 

[praise_yeshua]

Well... here's a poltical report on the rule changes the new committee members are looking to implement.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/republican-convention-rules-trump-cruz-221355

The four took issue with a rule, originally imposed by Mitt Romney forces in 2012 to keep rival Ron Paul off the convention stage, requiring a candidate to win a majority of delegates in eight states to be eligible for the party?s nomination -- a threshold only Trump has exceeded so far. If preserved, the rule could block John Kasich or Ted Cruz from competing with Trump at the convention, set for July in Cleveland.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/republican-convention-rules-trump-cruz-221355#ixzz44Ok3Xb70
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

Will you question this report "JohnJohn"?

Well gee, refer to my post #35. and I was a day ahead of Politico. 

I also said I have no idea what the rules committee will do and I don't. Each convention they, as representatives of the party and made up as a representation of the assigned delegates, make the rules. Way it works. He with the most gold (delegates) tends to make the rules.  We know very few people on the rules committee for now.

You are probably one of very few who have no idea, then.

The same people who instituted the Ron Paul rule because it was to their advantage will remove the Ron Paul rule because that will now be to their advantage. They are known as the establishment. They now support Ted Cruz, my preferred candidate, but only to keep Trump from getting a majority of delegates. If that succeeds, they will then drop Cruz like a rock and try to get their preferred candidate nominated. He will then proceed to lose like the rest of their candidates.

The establishment would rather lose (they are very good at that) with Bush, Romney, Kasich etc than win with Trump or Cruz.

Sorry, beg to differ. Romney delegates wrote the rules in 2012 because they dominated the rules committee because he dominated the delegates. Let's see who is on the rules committee. Now Trump likely won't control it because he likely won't have enough delegates. So sad, too bad. No participation trophies. You win on the first ballot or you fight it out. Has happened many times.

I'm sure you're right JJ.
Just business as usual in the Grand Old Party.
And, I'm also sure that the vast majority of their voters totally agree and will simply vote for the duly elected, er..appointed nominee. 

Did I mention that the establishment would rather lose (they are very good at that) with Bush, Romney, Kasich etc than win with Trump or Cruz.

He's not going to admit it.

I agree with the fact the GOP establishment has decided they have lost this election already. They want Trump and Cruz both to lose. They will do anything to see it happen.... even live with millions of voters abandoning the party.

If they do this, I think Trump should start the "Trade" party. I bet the Democraps and Republicans will go crazy if he does....

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Well... here's a poltical report on the rule changes the new committee members are looking to implement.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/republican-convention-rules-trump-cruz-221355

The four took issue with a rule, originally imposed by Mitt Romney forces in 2012 to keep rival Ron Paul off the convention stage, requiring a candidate to win a majority of delegates in eight states to be eligible for the party?s nomination -- a threshold only Trump has exceeded so far. If preserved, the rule could block John Kasich or Ted Cruz from competing with Trump at the convention, set for July in Cleveland.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/republican-convention-rules-trump-cruz-221355#ixzz44Ok3Xb70
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

Will you question this report "JohnJohn"?

Well gee, refer to my post #35. and I was a day ahead of Politico. 

I also said I have no idea what the rules committee will do and I don't. Each convention they, as representatives of the party and made up as a representation of the assigned delegates, make the rules. Way it works. He with the most gold (delegates) tends to make the rules.  We know very few people on the rules committee for now.

You're the one that bashed me for using a source you didn't like. Did you forget? That source said the same things....

You need to calm down and wait until the powers that be determine your nominee and then support him or her.
They always know best...you know, like McCain, Romney and good old Bob Dole!
But, you probably believe the conspiracy that the establishment actually exists!!

FTR, Trump is an idiot! 

 

[Just John]

I'm sure you're right JJ.
Just business as usual in the Grand Old Party.
And, I'm also sure that the vast majority of their voters totally agree and will simply vote for the duly elected, er..appointed nominee. 

Did I mention that the establishment would rather lose (they are very good at that) with Bush, Romney, Kasich etc than win with Trump or Cruz.

Oh I think the GOP has already given this election away. If you think Trump has a prayer of winning when 70% of REPUBLICAN women have a negative view of him I'd like to know how.  Yes, Hillary is a terrible candidate but a lot of her voters don't care about character.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

Well... here's a poltical report on the rule changes the new committee members are looking to implement.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/republican-convention-rules-trump-cruz-221355

The four took issue with a rule, originally imposed by Mitt Romney forces in 2012 to keep rival Ron Paul off the convention stage, requiring a candidate to win a majority of delegates in eight states to be eligible for the party?s nomination -- a threshold only Trump has exceeded so far. If preserved, the rule could block John Kasich or Ted Cruz from competing with Trump at the convention, set for July in Cleveland.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/republican-convention-rules-trump-cruz-221355#ixzz44Ok3Xb70
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

Will you question this report "JohnJohn"?

Well gee, refer to my post #35. and I was a day ahead of Politico. 

I also said I have no idea what the rules committee will do and I don't. Each convention they, as representatives of the party and made up as a representation of the assigned delegates, make the rules. Way it works. He with the most gold (delegates) tends to make the rules.  We know very few people on the rules committee for now.

You are probably one of very few who have no idea, then.

The same people who instituted the Ron Paul rule because it was to their advantage will remove the Ron Paul rule because that will now be to their advantage. They are known as the establishment. They now support Ted Cruz, my preferred candidate, but only to keep Trump from getting a majority of delegates. If that succeeds, they will then drop Cruz like a rock and try to get their preferred candidate nominated. He will then proceed to lose like the rest of their candidates.

The establishment would rather lose (they are very good at that) with Bush, Romney, Kasich etc than win with Trump or Cruz.

Sorry, beg to differ. Romney delegates wrote the rules in 2012 because they dominated the rules committee because he dominated the delegates. Let's see who is on the rules committee. Now Trump likely won't control it because he likely won't have enough delegates. So sad, too bad. No participation trophies. You win on the first ballot or you fight it out. Has happened many times.

I'm sure you're right JJ.
Just business as usual in the Grand Old Party.
And, I'm also sure that the vast majority of their voters totally agree and will simply vote for the duly elected, er..appointed nominee. 

Did I mention that the establishment would rather lose (they are very good at that) with Bush, Romney, Kasich etc than win with Trump or Cruz.

He's not going to admit it.

I agree with the fact the GOP establishment has decided they have lost this election already. They want Trump and Cruz both to lose. They will do anything to see it happen.... even live with millions of voters abandoning the party.

If they do this, I think Trump should start the "Trade" party. I bet the Democraps and Republicans will go crazy if he does....

He very well may go third party. If he does it will help the liberal socialist democrat party nominee.
Too bad because HillBillary is a weak candidate and the liberal socialist democrat party has their own issues:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/new-york-superdelegates-largely-back-clinton-sanders-article-1.2581729

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

I'm sure you're right JJ.
Just business as usual in the Grand Old Party.
And, I'm also sure that the vast majority of their voters totally agree and will simply vote for the duly elected, er..appointed nominee. 

Did I mention that the establishment would rather lose (they are very good at that) with Bush, Romney, Kasich etc than win with Trump or Cruz.

Oh I think the GOP has already given this election away. If you think Trump has a prayer of winning when 70% of REPUBLICAN women have a negative view of him I'd like to know how.  Yes, Hillary is a terrible candidate but a lot of her voters don't care about character.

I absolutely, positively DO believe either Trump or Cruz can win a general against the liberal socialist democrat nominee.
Sorry, but your conventional wisdom doesn't convince me...that SAME wisdom gave us McCain and Romney...and the Republican Establishment theme song "I'm a Loser". Frankly, your take on this is the minority opinion among Republicans. It's the same old tired establishment view. No personal offense intended....

 

[Just John]

I absolutely, positively DO believe either Trump or Cruz can win a general against the liberal socialist democrat nominee.
Sorry, but your conventional wisdom doesn't convince me...that SAME wisdom gave us McCain and Romney...and the Republican Establishment theme song "I'm a Loser". Frankly, your take on this is the minority opinion among Republicans. It's the same old tired establishment view. No personal offense intended....

I'm not sure how "my conventional wisdom" did anything to give us McCain or Romney as neither were my choice for the nominee, especially McCain. I must run in different republican circles. Must be the establishment. But I think it's more with people who have an aversion to the messenger.

This is a text my niece sent to me the other day:

"I just argued with (my uncle), my mom, my sister and Mimi for an hour about politics. It came down to my mom saying- and everyone agreeing- that God doesn't judge Christians now or in Heaven, all our sins are forgiven already, so if we vote for someone who God doesn't approve of He'll understand. I'm truly, truly confused at that

I'm not expecting Christian standards out of a president, but morals..?! It should be a requirement of all mankind and the president should be the example of decency to our country. Especially in America as we're the leaders of the world. This guy has zero class, is a narcissist and, I believe, dangerous. But I'm fine with others' expectations of their nominee not being the same as mine, just not when I know they know better and are lying to themselves. My family!! It's so weird. I started to cry out of frustration bc I realized that, at some point, my older family members were not only wrong but were really and truly arguing against something I've been taught my whole life- by them- and I felt like the authoritative adult in that minute... but not in a good way. I was proud though that I didn't let any tears fall and I could feel nothing but love despite being so angered".

Now whether you agree with her or not I believe this is a more visceral disagreement than just political. Trump has some pretty wacky ideas but his utter lack of character is a big one for me and many others. We've had a divided party before, Rockefeller v Goldwater, Reagan v Ford, Reagan v Bush, but other than Rockefeller,  they were good guys who could come together. I don't think Trump is a good guy. I think the party is pretty well in tatters and done. Some will be pleased.

 

[Just John]

• Just John:
  Why more delegates? The Republican Party allocates each state ten delegates, plus three for each congressional district, and bonus delegates for states that contributed electoral votes to the party in the previous presidential election, as well those that elected Republicans to high offices. As maybe you can see, this means the number of allotted delegates are not the same each cycle because of bonus delegates based on individual state elections. This year the nominee needs to win 129 more delegates but it's proportional to how many more are available. No tricks.

  
  

  Praise_Yeshua:
  This doesn't account for a roughly 260 delegate increase from 2012.
  
  as well those that elected Republicans to high offices
  
  How is this fair?

  
  Waah!!!!
  
  It should be fairly obvious but let me walk you through it:
  
  Each state automatically gets ten delegates each = Static amount
  Each state gets another 3 delegates per congressional district = Static amount
  Each state that cast its electoral votes (or a majority thereof) for the Republican nominee in the preceding election receives "bonus delegates". This is to reward states who vote Republican and give them more influence in the party. = Variable amount
  
  Each state is assigned a delegate for the following Variable amount:
  
  - Electing a GOP governor
  - Electing GOP to least one half of of the state's delegations to the House of Representatives
  - Electing the GOP to a majority of the members of a chamber of the state legislature
  - Electing the GOP to a majority of the members of all chambers of the state legislature.
  - Electing a GOP U.S. Senator (in the six-year period preceding the presidential election year).

Again, this is to reward and give preference to those states that are more representative of the GOP. As you may know, the vast majority of the state legislatures are Republican, majority of governors are Republicans, the Senate and the House are controlled by the GOP.  This has increased the amount of delegates to convention and yes, the number of delegates to win the nomination has also increased but only proportional to the increase in overall delegates. No tricks. No conspiracies. Really. All done before anyone knew Trump would be running.

I asked how is this fair?

Its nothing more than an excuse to raise the delegate requirement. I never said it had anything to do with Trump. You're one saying its easier to win this time around than it was in 2012. Which is a down right lie.

Keep up would you?

Sorry, can't help you with simple math.

What I did say was the rules were set up to help a candidate win earlier. I've given you several links but you are apparently to lazy or otherwise to read them. The main issues are proportionality of delegates, limited number of debates, shortened primary season and an earlier convention. This has helped Trump mainly because of the amount of early candidates in the field with proportional delegates. Although there were plenty of debates fewer help him because "on line" polls notwithstanding, most agree debates aren't his strength.

 

[Izdaari]

I am not a Ted Cruz fan. His ties to Seven Mountain Dominionism, and to Christian Reconstructionist nutjobs like Kevin Swanson, are a definite turn-off. But I think he's at least better than Trump.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Well... here's a poltical report on the rule changes the new committee members are looking to implement.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/republican-convention-rules-trump-cruz-221355

The four took issue with a rule, originally imposed by Mitt Romney forces in 2012 to keep rival Ron Paul off the convention stage, requiring a candidate to win a majority of delegates in eight states to be eligible for the party?s nomination -- a threshold only Trump has exceeded so far. If preserved, the rule could block John Kasich or Ted Cruz from competing with Trump at the convention, set for July in Cleveland.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/republican-convention-rules-trump-cruz-221355#ixzz44Ok3Xb70
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

Will you question this report "JohnJohn"?

Well gee, refer to my post #35. and I was a day ahead of Politico. 

I also said I have no idea what the rules committee will do and I don't. Each convention they, as representatives of the party and made up as a representation of the assigned delegates, make the rules. Way it works. He with the most gold (delegates) tends to make the rules.  We know very few people on the rules committee for now.

You're the one that bashed me for using a source you didn't like. Did you forget? That source said the same things....

You need to calm down and wait until the powers that be determine your nominee and then support him or her.
They always know best...you know, like McCain, Romney and good old Bob Dole!
But, you probably believe the conspiracy that the establishment actually exists!!

FTR, Trump is an idiot! 

I voted for McCain and Romney.

FTR Cruz is a liar. My choice has never been about some perfect candidate. I choice Trump for several reasons that Cruz can't fulfill.

 

[praise_yeshua]

I'm sure you're right JJ.
Just business as usual in the Grand Old Party.
And, I'm also sure that the vast majority of their voters totally agree and will simply vote for the duly elected, er..appointed nominee. 

Did I mention that the establishment would rather lose (they are very good at that) with Bush, Romney, Kasich etc than win with Trump or Cruz.

Oh I think the GOP has already given this election away. If you think Trump has a prayer of winning when 70% of REPUBLICAN women have a negative view of him I'd like to know how.  Yes, Hillary is a terrible candidate but a lot of her voters don't care about character.

Trump will win over women. He's had a rather good track record of dong just that.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Well... here's a poltical report on the rule changes the new committee members are looking to implement.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/republican-convention-rules-trump-cruz-221355

The four took issue with a rule, originally imposed by Mitt Romney forces in 2012 to keep rival Ron Paul off the convention stage, requiring a candidate to win a majority of delegates in eight states to be eligible for the party?s nomination -- a threshold only Trump has exceeded so far. If preserved, the rule could block John Kasich or Ted Cruz from competing with Trump at the convention, set for July in Cleveland.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/republican-convention-rules-trump-cruz-221355#ixzz44Ok3Xb70
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Will you question this report "JohnJohn"?

Well gee, refer to my post #35. and I was a day ahead of Politico. 

I also said I have no idea what the rules committee will do and I don't. Each convention they, as representatives of the party and made up as a representation of the assigned delegates, make the rules. Way it works. He with the most gold (delegates) tends to make the rules.  We know very few people on the rules committee for now.

You are probably one of very few who have no idea, then.

The same people who instituted the Ron Paul rule because it was to their advantage will remove the Ron Paul rule because that will now be to their advantage. They are known as the establishment. They now support Ted Cruz, my preferred candidate, but only to keep Trump from getting a majority of delegates. If that succeeds, they will then drop Cruz like a rock and try to get their preferred candidate nominated. He will then proceed to lose like the rest of their candidates.

The establishment would rather lose (they are very good at that) with Bush, Romney, Kasich etc than win with Trump or Cruz.

Sorry, beg to differ. Romney delegates wrote the rules in 2012 because they dominated the rules committee because he dominated the delegates. Let's see who is on the rules committee. Now Trump likely won't control it because he likely won't have enough delegates. So sad, too bad. No participation trophies. You win on the first ballot or you fight it out. Has happened many times.

I'm sure you're right JJ.
Just business as usual in the Grand Old Party.
And, I'm also sure that the vast majority of their voters totally agree and will simply vote for the duly elected, er..appointed nominee. 

Did I mention that the establishment would rather lose (they are very good at that) with Bush, Romney, Kasich etc than win with Trump or Cruz.

He's not going to admit it.

I agree with the fact the GOP establishment has decided they have lost this election already. They want Trump and Cruz both to lose. They will do anything to see it happen.... even live with millions of voters abandoning the party.

If they do this, I think Trump should start the "Trade" party. I bet the Democraps and Republicans will go crazy if he does....

He very well may go third party. If he does it will help the liberal socialist democrat party nominee.
Too bad because HillBillary is a weak candidate and the liberal socialist democrat party has their own issues:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/new-york-superdelegates-largely-back-clinton-sanders-article-1.2581729

i don't think it will. The democraps have a real problem with Sanders voters. They aren't going to vote for Hillary. Even Susan Surandon is saying she'll vote for Trump over Hillary.