The Four Gospels mentioned in the New Testament

[prophet]

Mat 24:14
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.


Anishinaabe

And that happens here:

Rev 14:6 Then I saw another angel flying in midair, and he had the eternal gospel to proclaim to those who live on the earth—to every nation, tribe, language and people.

Nice tie in.

Anishinaabe

 

[RAIDER]

Not to be too simple here, but I believe we would all agree that the gospel today is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.  One cannot be saved today without believing these three things.  Look back at many of the OT saints.  Did they all know that Jesus (Messiah) would be crucified and be resurrected? 

 

[T-Bone]

And in heaven there will be a Jewish section & a Gentile section! :

In Heaven there will be things that will solely belong to the Jews. And likewise there will be things which were promised to the Gentiles.

God is a God of Distinction.

Just as at the Judgment Seat of Christ, everyone will receive different rewards. Not everyone is going to get a reward though. Those who did nothing for Christ and did not work on their prayer life and sanctification while on this earth, well they shouldn't expect to receive any reward at the Judgment Seat of Christ.

You are a complete nut...your whole theology is apostate...Read Romans 1:16 again and tell me there are different Gospels and callings to the Jews and the Gentiles.  I would not let you teach my bird dog!

 

[Ransom]

Not to be too simple here, but I believe we would all agree that the gospel today is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.  One cannot be saved today without believing these three things.  Look back at many of the OT saints.  Did they all know that Jesus (Messiah) would be crucified and be resurrected?

No, but they knew something along those lines was coming. "These all died in faith, not having received the things promised, but having seen them and greeted them from afar" (Heb. 11:13). I think that the author chose the saintly examples he did, because there's something significant about their stories that foreshadows the life and ministry of Christ.

 

[RAIDER]

Not to be too simple here, but I believe we would all agree that the gospel today is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.  One cannot be saved today without believing these three things.  Look back at many of the OT saints.  Did they all know that Jesus (Messiah) would be crucified and be resurrected?

No, but they knew something along those lines was coming. "These all died in faith, not having received the things promised, but having seen them and greeted them from afar" (Heb. 11:13). I think that the author chose the saintly examples he did, because there's something significant about their stories that foreshadows the life and ministry of Christ.

As we look back at the OT there are many pictures and types of Christ that we can now see.  On the other side of the coin, if we begin at Noah and go through II Chronicles how many references do we find of people speaking of the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus?

 

[T-Bone]

Not to be too simple here, but I believe we would all agree that the gospel today is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.  One cannot be saved today without believing these three things.  Look back at many of the OT saints.  Did they all know that Jesus (Messiah) would be crucified and be resurrected?

No, but they knew something along those lines was coming. "These all died in faith, not having received the things promised, but having seen them and greeted them from afar" (Heb. 11:13). I think that the author chose the saintly examples he did, because there's something significant about their stories that foreshadows the life and ministry of Christ.

As we look back at the OT there are many pictures and types of Christ that we can now see.  On the other side of the coin, if we begin at Noah and go through II Chronicles how many references do we find of people speaking of the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus?

Starting in Genesis 3:15 we have the first promise of the Redeemer.  How much they knew in the OT about all that the coming Messiah would do certainly seems to vary.  What does not change is that they continued to look toward the promise found in the Messiah. What is also clear, despite what BB says, is that no one is or was saved by keeping the law...because everyone breaks the law all the law could do is condemn us, and that condemnation had to be paid for, but it could not be paid for by the blood of animals, but only by the blood of the Messiah.  You are right that there are many types in the OT, but more than types there were many rituals and commands given to point to the coming Messiah.  But OT believers are saved by the same Messiah and same sacrifice as anyone who is saved.  The reason the OT believers went to Paradise rather than heaven was because they could not be resurrected until Jesus was Resurrected...He is the firstborn of the dead.  To your point, certainly they all didn't understand all the elements of what we know as the good news (Gospel) of what Jesus did...but they still look forward to the One and only Messiah who would give them victory over death.  One of the earliest books, Job..."I know that my Redeemer lives and on the earth one day will stand."

 

[christundivided]

Not to be too simple here, but I believe we would all agree that the gospel today is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.  One cannot be saved today without believing these three things.  Look back at many of the OT saints.  Did they all know that Jesus (Messiah) would be crucified and be resurrected?

No, but they knew something along those lines was coming. "These all died in faith, not having received the things promised, but having seen them and greeted them from afar" (Heb. 11:13). I think that the author chose the saintly examples he did, because there's something significant about their stories that foreshadows the life and ministry of Christ.

As we look back at the OT there are many pictures and types of Christ that we can now see.  On the other side of the coin, if we begin at Noah and go through II Chronicles how many references do we find of people speaking of the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus?

Many many references. If you don't see them.....its because you don't want to see them. Let me remind you of a few words from your own Master...

Luk 24:25  Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
Luk 24:26  Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
Luk 24:27  And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

Maybe you'll call your own Master a liar?????

Abraham's offered up his only son Isaac. When Abraham got the order from God... he counted his own son. (Isaac) dead. It was "three day" journey to mount Moriah. Read Gen 22:4.

Heb 11:19  Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.

 

[christundivided]

Not to be too simple here, but I believe we would all agree that the gospel today is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.  One cannot be saved today without believing these three things.  Look back at many of the OT saints.  Did they all know that Jesus (Messiah) would be crucified and be resurrected?

No, but they knew something along those lines was coming. "These all died in faith, not having received the things promised, but having seen them and greeted them from afar" (Heb. 11:13). I think that the author chose the saintly examples he did, because there's something significant about their stories that foreshadows the life and ministry of Christ.

As we look back at the OT there are many pictures and types of Christ that we can now see.  On the other side of the coin, if we begin at Noah and go through II Chronicles how many references do we find of people speaking of the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus?

Starting in Genesis 3:15 we have the first promise of the Redeemer.  How much they knew in the OT about all that the coming Messiah would do certainly seems to vary.  What does not change is that they continued to look toward the promise found in the Messiah. What is also clear, despite what BB says, is that no one is or was saved by keeping the law...because everyone breaks the law all the law could do is condemn us, and that condemnation had to be paid for, but it could not be paid for by the blood of animals, but only by the blood of the Messiah.  You are right that there are many types in the OT, but more than types there were many rituals and commands given to point to the coming Messiah.  But OT believers are saved by the same Messiah and same sacrifice as anyone who is saved.  The reason the OT believers went to Paradise rather than heaven was because they could not be resurrected until Jesus was Resurrected...He is the firstborn of the dead.  To your point, certainly they all didn't understand all the elements of what we know as the good news (Gospel) of what Jesus did...but they still look forward to the One and only Messiah who would give them victory over death.  One of the earliest books, Job..."I know that my Redeemer lives and on the earth one day will stand."

Exactly. There are many many more reference. References that our own Master shared with the two disciples on the road to Emmaus.

The death, burial and resurrection are found throughout the entire OT. People just don't want to see it.

 

[RAIDER]

Not to be too simple here, but I believe we would all agree that the gospel today is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.  One cannot be saved today without believing these three things.  Look back at many of the OT saints.  Did they all know that Jesus (Messiah) would be crucified and be resurrected?

No, but they knew something along those lines was coming. "These all died in faith, not having received the things promised, but having seen them and greeted them from afar" (Heb. 11:13). I think that the author chose the saintly examples he did, because there's something significant about their stories that foreshadows the life and ministry of Christ.

As we look back at the OT there are many pictures and types of Christ that we can now see.  On the other side of the coin, if we begin at Noah and go through II Chronicles how many references do we find of people speaking of the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus?

Many many references. If you don't see them.....its because you don't want to see them. Let me remind you of a few words from your own Master...

Luk 24:25  Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
Luk 24:26  Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
Luk 24:27  And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

Maybe you'll call your own Master a liar?????

Abraham's offered up his only son Isaac. When Abraham got the order from God... he counted his own son. (Isaac) dead. It was "three day" journey to mount Moriah. Read Gen 22:4.

Heb 11:19  Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.

The Scriptures you quoted from Luke are fantastic!  Here is a question for you - were these two fellows on the road to Emmaus believers?

 

[BALAAM]

Now you all got me to thinking. If the Bible is eternal, Christ is eternal, and the gospel is eternal;  Then it is wrong to say we preach an old-fashioned gospel and an old-fashioned book or a contemporary gospel and a contemporary book. Is it not? It has to be an eternal gospel, an eternal book, and an eternal message. Correct?

I will have to send Bob Gray and Allen Domelle an e-mail.

 

[T-Bone]

Now you all got me to thinking. If the Bible is eternal, Christ is eternal, and the gospel is eternal;  Then it is wrong to say we preach an old-fashioned gospel and an old-fashioned book or a contemporary gospel and a contemporary book. Is it not? It has to be an eternal gospel, an eternal book, and an eternal message. Correct?

I will have to send Bob Gray and Allen Domelle an e-mail.

Yup...God gave all in giving His Son, who is the Lamb of God slain before the foundation of the world, for there to be another way to salvation.  Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life and no one comes to the Father except by Me."  That is an eternal truth...not a dispensational one!

 

[Darkwing Duck]

I think it is even more interesting that many fundy's preeeeech the heresy of the king jimmy 1611, but reject the Apocrypha, which is a part of it.  Not only that, 95% of them couldn't read or understand it. 

I am not KJVO or even KJV preferred but this is a strawman argument.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

One other thing; salvation is not the same for every dispensation.

Salvation in the time of Jacob's trouble will involve works with faith for salvation.

Just as works were needed with faith in the Old Testament for salvation.

Woah! What?

How did the women at the well get saved? How did the thief on the cross get saved? Jesus had not yet died so according to your theory they needed works+faith. What works did righteous Lot have to show he was saved?

 

[T-Bone]

One other thing; salvation is not the same for every dispensation.
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Salvation in the time of Jacob's trouble will involve works with faith for salvation.

Just as works were needed with faith in the Old Testament for salvation.

Woah! What?

How did the women at the well get saved? How did the thief on the cross get saved? Jesus had not yet died so according to your theory they needed works+faith. What works did righteous Lot have to show he was saved?

Oops...you just created several more dispensations & gospels!

 

[christundivided]

The Scriptures you quoted from Luke are fantastic!  Here is a question for you - were these two fellows on the road to Emmaus believers?

One is named in Luke 24:18......Cleopas

The wife of "Cleopas" is mentioned in John 19:25 as standing by the cross as Christ was crucified. I see no reason to believe it was anything other than Cleopas and his wife.

 

[RAIDER]

The Scriptures you quoted from Luke are fantastic!  Here is a question for you - were these two fellows on the road to Emmaus believers?

One is named in Luke 24:18......Cleopas

The wife of "Cleopas" is mentioned in John 19:25 as standing by the cross as Christ was crucified. I see no reason to believe it was anything other than Cleopas and his wife.

In that case we would say that they were already believers, yet they had no clue about the gospel plan.  They were looking for the Messiah who (in their eyes) would come and set up his kingdom.  When this didn't happen they were broken hearted and discouraged. 

They had the OT Scriptures.  You and I can look at these Scriptures and see the prophecies and pictures of Christ.  They did not see it.  The disciples did not see it.  Christ called them "fools" and "slow of heart".  He then took the OT Scriptures and expounded them to them.

Luke 24:13-35
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

13 And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs. 14 And they talked together of all these things which had happened. 15 And it came to pass, that, while they communed together and reasoned, Jesus himself drew near, and went with them. 16 But their eyes were holden that they should not know him. 17 And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another, as ye walk, and are sad? 18 And the one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answering said unto him, Art thou only a stranger in Jerusalem, and hast not known the things which are come to pass there in these days? 19 And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people: 20 and how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him. 21 But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done. 22 Yea, and certain women also of our company made us astonished, which were early at the sepulchre; 23 and when they found not his body, they came, saying, that they had also seen a vision of angels, which said that he was alive. 24 And certain of them which were with us went to the sepulchre, and found it even so as the women had said: but him they saw not. 25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: 26 ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? 27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

 

[Ransom]

Well, apparently the Gospel isn't eternal. Actually, I have it on good authority that we changed dispensations about 5 minutes ago.

And since Bibleburner was so kind to inform us that "gospel of x" means a different gospel for every value of x, we need to try really hard to find out what the new x is. I'm praying hard for x="buffalo wings."

 

[Biblebeliever]

I WAS a dispensationist for more than 20 years. I think I know a few things about it.

Well what are some of those things which you do know about it?

It really is difficult to reason with a dispensationist.... when they get cornered.... they just make up a new dispensation to explain their silliness.

No, we don't make up another dispensation, we just keep the verses in their proper context and also in the dispensation in which they are Doctrinally pointed to.

God is actively seeking all of mankind. Jew and Gentile alike. Jew's get saved. Gentiles get saved.

Amen. God is seeking to save mankind. And yes; there are Jews who are getting saved today. And praise God for it. And when a Jew gets saved, he becomes a Christian (a new creature in Christ), just as when a Gentile gets saved, he also becomes a Christian (a new creature in Jesus Christ). See Gal. 3:28 and Col. 3:11.

God is seeking sinners.

Indeed, Yes He is.

Paul got in during the time of the Gentiles. So have many many Jews.......Millions.... if not more through this age.... You then have the nerve to say there some special time in which the Gospel will change and focus on the Jew

I do believe that there have been many Jews which have gotten saved in this current dispensation (Church Age), and if they did get saved, it is because they believed the Gospel. They came to God in repentance and placed their faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and His blood atonement. (Rom. 3:26).


But today; the nation of Israel is still in blindess until the fulness of the gentiles be come in (Rom. 11:25).

And today in the current dispensation; God's main dealings is with the Gentile nations.

Once the Rapture hits, salvation will change from faith only (Eph. 2:8-9) over to faith AND works (Jas. 2:14-26; Rev. 12:17; 14:9-12).

The Gospel that will be preached will no longer be the Gospel of the grace of God, but rather, the Gospel of the Kingdom, just as it was preached during the time of John the Baptist and also the time of Jesus' 3 and a half year ministry on this Earth with His twelve disciples.

...... It really takes an idiot to be so stupid.

The Gospel preached in the time of Jacob's trouble will be different. Because salvation and the means to it in that time period will be different.

And it takes a Chrisitan to simply believe the Book. If you want to understand the plan of God for the ages, then you need to study the Biblical dispensations. There is no getting around that.

 

[Biblebeliever]

What about that "wall" laying shatter on the ground..... broken.... destroyed that stood between Jew and Gentile.....

Yes, the middle wall of partition between the Jew and the Gentile has been broken down. Again, today in this dispensation, there is no distinction between Jew or Gentile as far as salvation is concerned.

Colossians 3:11
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

11 where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.


Ephesians 2:14-17
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 15 having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16 and that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: 17 and came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.

Aren't you building that wall again???? at least your theology is...

No, I am not building up that wall again.

I am simply telling you that once the rapture hits, God's dealings will go back to the Nation of Israel. Afterall, it is called the time of Jacob's (Israel's) trouble. Now although God's focus and plan will be mainly on Israel during that time period, there will still be Gentiles who also get saved. That's why when you read the account of the Judgment of the Nations in Matthew 25; you have Gentiles, individuals from Gentile Nations being judged for how they treated the Jews (Christ's brethren), and the ones who took care of the Jews (fed them, gave them drink, took them in and clothed them, visited them in prison), those same Gentiles will be permitted to enter the Millennial Kingdom:



Matthew 25:34-40
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 for I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36 naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

It really takes an arrogant man to think he knows that God is going to give something to a Jew that he will never give to a Gentile.....

No, it simply takes a diligent Christian to study the Bible and see what it teaches concerning the Jew, Gentile, and the Church of God (1 Cor. 10:32).


Instead of always believing what your "educated" and "sophisticated" hireling ("pastor") tells you to believe, it would be good for you to actually open the Bible and study it for yourself to see what it actually teaches.

It is not wise to try to make the whole Bible conform Doctrinally to one dispensation.

 

[Biblebeliever]

You are a complete nut...your whole theology is apostate...Read Romans 1:16 again and tell me there are different Gospels and callings to the Jews and the Gentiles.  I would not let you teach my bird dog!

There are different Gospels. And I already showed you four of them in the OP of this thread.


The everlasting Gospel preached by the Angel in Rev. 14:6 is not the Gospel we preach today, and if you want to pretend that it is, then you've just about lost your mind. Because they are not the same.