JustABigKid said:I hope it never stops
Saved by Grace said:They are leaving bc they are fed up with it. . They dont like the cult mentality and are seeing it for what it is.
Pastor Vineyard recently counciled someone who felt the Lord was wanting to take a job elsewhere in another state. Pastor told them that "God didnt tell them to go work in that state, God wouldnt tell you that. He would have told me "
THe family knowing that they have direct access to God themselves know they do not have to go to the Pastor to know God's will for their lives. Needless to say the whole family left.
Saved by Grace said:They are leaving bc they are fed up with it. . They dont like the cult mentality and are seeing it for what it is.
Pastor Vineyard recently counciled someone who felt the Lord was wanting to take a job elsewhere in another state. Pastor told them that "God didnt tell them to go work in that state, God wouldnt tell you that. He would have told me "
The family knowing that they have direct access to God themselves know they do not have to go to the Pastor to know God's will for their lives. Needless to say the whole family left.
Walt said:Saved by Grace said:They are leaving bc they are fed up with it. . They dont like the cult mentality and are seeing it for what it is.
Pastor Vineyard recently counciled someone who felt the Lord was wanting to take a job elsewhere in another state. Pastor told them that "God didnt tell them to go work in that state, God wouldnt tell you that. He would have told me "
The family knowing that they have direct access to God themselves know they do not have to go to the Pastor to know God's will for their lives. Needless to say the whole family left.
This attitude is essentially making a pope of the pastor, and they are quite right to leave.
I was in a church like this where the pastor claimed this authority, and no one called him on it. The Lord, in His graciousness and mercy, opened my eyes and we eventually left this kind of thing.
Sadly, it is very common in churches that were starting by students of HAC or men heavily influenced by Jack Hyles/FBCH.