The Mega-Thread for COVID Evangelists

Norefund said:
What is you objection to getting the vaccine? Specifically, what is your objection that would be so strong that you are willing to give up a job you do well and has sustained you for 35 years?
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I don't need it. I survived COVID - no fever, no loss of any senses, missed 4-5 hours of work. It seems the number of deaths from vaccines is higher than the number of reinfections. Why should I be forced to take that risk?
It doesn't prevent the spread.
It (the mandate) is solely political and I hate political games.
Long-term safety has not been established.
 
Norefund said:
You are speaking in generalities. I'm asking what additional "control" the government or Joe Biden will have if, say, your wife decides to get the vaccine and keep her job?
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I'm not speaking in generalities...It's clear and concise. Also clear and concise is the fact that my wife won't be subjected to the jab no matter how hard Biden tries. So, the matter is settled for us.
 
Norefund said:
It will be interesting, to say the least, to see how this shakes out with several states attempting to block the OSHA mandate. My original post was in response to Joe's wife filing suit and how that hasn't worked out for individuals or even unions who have filed suits.
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I never said my wife HAS filed suit..I stated she will...and most likely she will...along with several thousands of others in the company. So far the company hasn't mandated the jab...it's a foreign company with an American subsidiary.
 
voicecrying said:
I don't need it. I survived COVID - no fever, no loss of any senses, missed 4-5 hours of work. It seems the number of deaths from vaccines is higher than the number of reinfections. Why should I be forced to take that risk?
It doesn't prevent the spread.
It (the mandate) is solely political and I hate political games.
Long-term safety has not been established.
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Do you have any data that shows the number of deaths from vaccinations vs death from reinfections - other than a link that Twisted would post?
And, how can their be long term data on a virus that is about 2 years old with a vaccine that is one year old? Which vaccine in history has caused long term harm? Vaccines don't cause long term harm because they don't stay in the body very long - maybe 2-3 weeks tops.
Again, over 220 million Americans have had at least one shot. If the vaccine was that "deadly" there is absolutely no way we wouldn't all know it. People would be dropping like flies.
 
AverageJoe said:
I'm not speaking in generalities...It's clear and concise. Also clear and concise is the fact that my wife won't be subjected to the jab no matter how hard Biden tries. So, the matter is settled for us.
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If it's clear and concise then you won't have any problem giving me one example of the the freedom I lost by getting my vaccine. I can tell you some freedoms I gained:
The freedom to not end up in the ICU
The freedom to not end up on a ventilator
The freedom to not end up on an ECMO machine
The freedom to be around immunocompromised people without risking their health
The freedom to travel abroad
The freedom to not worry about any OSHA requirement jeopardizing my career
 
Norefund said:
Do you have any data that shows the number of deaths from vaccinations vs death from reinfections - other than a link that Twisted would post?
And, how can their be long term data on a virus that is about 2 years old with a vaccine that is one year old? Which vaccine in history has caused long term harm? Vaccines don't cause long term harm because they don't stay in the body very long - maybe 2-3 weeks tops.
Again, over 220 million Americans have had at least one shot. If the vaccine was that "deadly" there is absolutely no way we wouldn't all know it. People would be dropping like flies.
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I think you need to re-read my answer.
Tell me why I should get the vaccine. All the arguments I've heard are unconvincing.
 
Norefund said:
If it's clear and concise then you won't have any problem giving me one example of the the freedom I lost by getting my vaccine. I can tell you some freedoms I gained:
The freedom to not end up in the ICU
The freedom to not end up on a ventilator
The freedom to not end up on an ECMO machine
The freedom to be around immunocompromised people without risking their health
The freedom to travel abroad
The freedom to not worry about any OSHA requirement jeopardizing my career
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Yet, there are other people who are vaccinated that WE know who have been vaccinated and ended up in the ICU, ON A VENTILATOR and have passed on...one being my wife's uncle. If you want push the jab...push it around people who give a rip about getting it. I don't, and neither does my wife. I don't push my view on you...don't push yours on me!
 
Norefund said:
If it's clear and concise then you won't have any problem giving me one example of the the freedom I lost by getting my vaccine. I can tell you some freedoms I gained:
The freedom to not end up in the ICU
The freedom to not end up on a ventilator
The freedom to not end up on an ECMO machine
The freedom to be around immunocompromised people without risking their health
The freedom to travel abroad
The freedom to not worry about any OSHA requirement jeopardizing my career
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The 1st 4 are all "maybes".
 
AverageJoe said:
Yet, there are other people who are vaccinated that WE know who have been vaccinated and ended up in the ICU, ON A VENTILATOR and have passed on...one being my wife's uncle. If you want push the jab...push it around people who give a rip about getting it. I don't, and neither does my wife. I don't push my view on you...don't push yours on me!
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Why is it when I give my opinion I am "pushing my view?" And when you give yours....well, I don't actually know what you are doing other than saying you or your wife won't get the vaccine no matter what happens and "pushing your view" on those who have taken the vaccine.
Let me push my view a little more because this is, afterall, the Fighting Forum.
Questions for you and Voice:
If you (or your wife) are actually faced with losing your livelihood due to the OSHA mandate, what will you do to replace it? Will you try to find a company of less than 100 employees and apply there? Will you start your own business? Are you ready to retire? Or will you go on a government assistance program?
What will you do for health insurance? None? Or, heaven forbid, Obamacare? You couldn't accept that, right? Because that is a Democrat implemented program and no way could you join a Democrat Joe Biden health care system.....otherwise you would just take the vaccine.

Prediction: both of you will put your stubbornness and pride aside when the time comes. In your hearts, you know that's the reason for your reluctance.
 
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Norefund said:
Why is it when I give my opinion I am "pushing my view?" And when you give yours....well, I don't actually know what you are doing other than saying you or your wife won't get the vaccine no matter what happens and "pushing your view" on those who have taken the vaccine.
Let me push my view a little more because this is, afterall, the Fighting Forum.
Questions for you and Voice:
If you (or your wife) are actually faced with losing your livelihood due to the OSHA mandate, what will you do to replace it? Will you try to find a company of less than 100 employees and apply there? Will you start your own business? Are you ready to retire? Or will you go on a government assistance program?
What will you do for health insurance? None? Or, heaven forbid, Obamacare? You couldn't accept that, right? Because that is a Democrat implemented program and no way could you join a Democrat Joe Biden health care system.....otherwise you would just take the vaccine.

Prediction: both of you will put your stubbornness and pride aside when the time comes. In your hearts, you know that's the reason for your reluctance.
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Your "prediction' is way off the mark. My wife and I are very principled people, and we WON'T be getting the jab...me, because I'm disabled and don't have to...her because we have other ways of making money. My wife qualifies for medicare (not Medicaid) in this state, and is possibly going to be disabled by the end of the year! So, ASSume all you like.
 
Norefund said:
Why is it when I give my opinion I am "pushing my view?" And when you give yours....well, I don't actually know what you are doing other than saying you or your wife won't get the vaccine no matter what happens and "pushing your view" on those who have taken the vaccine.
Let me push my view a little more because this is, afterall, the Fighting Forum.
Questions for you and Voice:
If you (or your wife) are actually faced with losing your livelihood due to the OSHA mandate, what will you do to replace it? Will you try to find a company of less than 100 employees and apply there? Will you start your own business? Are you ready to retire? Or will you go on a government assistance program?
What will you do for health insurance? None? Or, heaven forbid, Obamacare? You couldn't accept that, right? Because that is a Democrat implemented program and no way could you join a Democrat Joe Biden health care system.....otherwise you would just take the vaccine.

Prediction: both of you will put your stubbornness and pride aside when the time comes. In your hearts, you know that's the reason for your reluctance.
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Misjudge much?
 
Pretty lengthy but Bro. Todd goes off on liberals and the forced jab that the NFL and NBA are forcing their anti-American players to get.

 
“As the Washington Times wrote about the important new Nature study, “Factor in natural immunity and a case could be made these vaccines are nearly worthless.”
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