The Most Evil Man Of The 20th Century

Holy Mole said:
The Rogue Tomato said:
Adolf Hitler doesn't deserve to be at the top of the list.  Many of the others in that list murdered far more millions of people than Hitler did. Although Hitler gets marks for cruelty.
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"marks for cruelty"

Are you kidding?
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I'm saying that if Hitler earned his way to the top of the list, it's because of the cruelty of the murders, not the numbers.  Other dictators murdered far more people than Hitler, often through starvation.  But starvation isn't quite as cruel as using people for bizarre, torturous medical experiments.

 
The Rogue Tomato said:
Holy Mole said:
The Rogue Tomato said:
Adolf Hitler doesn't deserve to be at the top of the list.  Many of the others in that list murdered far more millions of people than Hitler did. Although Hitler gets marks for cruelty.
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"marks for cruelty"

Are you kidding?
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I'm saying that if Hitler earned his way to the top of the list, it's because of the cruelty of the murders, not the numbers.  Other dictators murdered far more people than Hitler, often through starvation.  But starvation isn't quite as cruel as using people for bizarre, torturous medical experiments.
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Clearly,  you are a fan.  ;)
 
theophilus said:
Anchor said:
Who was the most evil man as presented in OT scripture (or even the top 5) and why?
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I don't know who was most evil overall but the Bible says that Manassah was the worst king of Judah and Ahab the worst king of Israel.  Both of these people repented of their sins before the end of their lives.  As far as we know Ahab was the only king of Israel who did this.

This raises and interesting possibility.  Perhaps the most evil person of the 20th century was someone we don't think of as evil at all because repented and changed his way of living and we only know about the good part of his life.
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Would it be fair to say that the most evil people in OT scripture (I'd list Balaam, Jeroboam, Ahab/Jezebel, Manasseh) were those that brought idolatry and its conjoined twin of immorality into the congregation of the righteous?  Clearly the rampant bloodshed particularly associated with Ahab/Jezebel and with Manasseh are directly stemming from the idolatry that defined the culture at that time.
 
The Rogue Tomato said:
Holy Mole said:
The Rogue Tomato said:
Adolf Hitler doesn't deserve to be at the top of the list.  Many of the others in that list murdered far more millions of people than Hitler did. Although Hitler gets marks for cruelty.
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"marks for cruelty"

Are you kidding?
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I'm saying that if Hitler earned his way to the top of the list, it's because of the cruelty of the murders, not the numbers.  Other dictators murdered far more people than Hitler, often through starvation.  But starvation isn't quite as cruel as using people for bizarre, torturous medical experiments.
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Hitler didn't just kill Jews. His ambitions and lust for power reached way beyond the showers of Auschwitz and like. It seems you may be forgetting that Hitler engulfed pretty much the entire planet in war and the ensuing death and disease across the globe. By numbers, directly or indirectly, I doubt anyone has killed more.
 
Holy Mole said:
The Rogue Tomato said:
Holy Mole said:
The Rogue Tomato said:
Adolf Hitler doesn't deserve to be at the top of the list.  Many of the others in that list murdered far more millions of people than Hitler did. Although Hitler gets marks for cruelty.
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"marks for cruelty"

Are you kidding?
Click to expand...

I'm saying that if Hitler earned his way to the top of the list, it's because of the cruelty of the murders, not the numbers.  Other dictators murdered far more people than Hitler, often through starvation.  But starvation isn't quite as cruel as using people for bizarre, torturous medical experiments.
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Hitler didn't just kill Jews. His ambitions and lust for power reached way beyond the showers of Auschwitz and like. It seems you may be forgetting that Hitler engulfed pretty much the entire planet in war and the ensuing death and disease across the globe. By numbers, directly or indirectly, I doubt anyone has killed more.
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War muddies the numbers.  If you include all the people who died because of the war, then you'd have to place some of the blame on the allies and on the Japanese (and even the Italians, I guess).  And I know I can't sort it all out, so I could never come up with a number attributable directly to Hitler. 

Revolutions are a different story.  You can trace the murders back to the man and the policy. 

Conservative estimates of deaths caused directly by Mao and his policies range from 40-70 million, with upper guesses as high as 120 million. 

It is generally believed Stalin and his policies killed 20 million.

It is generally believed Lenin and his policies killed 2 million, although there seems to be a lot of dissenting opinions.

Pol Pot - 1.7 million.

I'm sure I'm forgetting some.  But keep these numbers handy for the next time someone tells you (Christian/Catholic) religion is responsible for the most murders in the world. 

 
The Most Evil Man of the 20th century doesn't always drink beer, but when he does, he drinks Dos Equis!
 
Recovering IFB said:
The Most Evil Man of the 20th century doesn't always drink beer, but when he does, he drinks Dos Equis!
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That's probably what makes him evil.  A good man has better taste.
 
Interesting phenomenon how an inane OP brings out the antagonists against people they apparently don't like rather than marking the author as an asinine idiot and moving on!
 
I actually started to watch the video last night and recognized the speaker. He has been featured on Stufffundieslike.com. He has a video where he takes power drills, drills holes in Bibles that are not KJV, then burns them in a fire. That guy is a whacko!
 
Anchor said:
theophilus said:
Anchor said:
Who was the most evil man as presented in OT scripture (or even the top 5) and why?
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I don't know who was most evil overall but the Bible says that Manassah was the worst king of Judah and Ahab the worst king of Israel.  Both of these people repented of their sins before the end of their lives.  As far as we know Ahab was the only king of Israel who did this.

This raises and interesting possibility.  Perhaps the most evil person of the 20th century was someone we don't think of as evil at all because repented and changed his way of living and we only know about the good part of his life.
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Would it be fair to say that the most evil people in OT scripture (I'd list Balaam, Jeroboam, Ahab/Jezebel, Manasseh) were those that brought idolatry and its conjoined twin of immorality into the congregation of the righteous?  Clearly the rampant bloodshed particularly associated with Ahab/Jezebel and with Manasseh are directly stemming from the idolatry that defined the culture at that time.
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That would put Solomon in pole position.  He gets my vote, if these are the criteria.

Anishinaabe

 
Elvis didn't intentionally harm people, that I know of.  He was very wicked, but not evil.

Elvis didn't cause the Sodomy of Mozart, Tchaikovsky, and the Euro-Classical Music Movement.

Elvis didn't cause us to bring in the manitoo, by beating the drum at feast.  This happened on this continent for 4,000 years, before he was born.

Elvis didn't invent the whirling dervish, a dance actually designed to entice possession...the Arabs practiced this for 3,000 years.

Elvis didn't cause the druids to sacrifice humans, while their drums beat.

Elvis didn't cause the Mayans and Aztecs to ritualistically kill their enemies, criminals, or occasionally a volunteer of their own to appease their gods.

Elvis didn't start the Thugees to strangling.

Elvis didn't gather the Sodomites of Europe into a special forces death squad, Hitler did that.

Elvis didn't march into Cambodia, killing women and children, Pol Pot did.
Elvis didn't give up his own people, to appease the Chinese Communists invaders, Ho Chi Minh did.

Elvis didn't oust Chang Kai Shek, and murder 20 million Chinese, Chairman Mao did.

Elvis didn't stir up the Bolsheviks.
Elvis didn't train the Zulus.
Elvis didn't influence the Viking Hordes.
Elvis wasn't the Greek queer that butchered his way to Babylon, Alexander was.

A little perspective would help, if  Petey the Pensecola Pimp wasnt beyond help.

Anishinaabe
 
We can't measure how evil a person is by the number of deaths he is responsible for.  Those responsible for killing a lot of people are all dictators who have the political power to carry out their desires.  God looks at people's hearts and knows not only the evil they did but the evil they would have done if they had the opportunity.
 
prophet said:
...That would put Solomon in pole position.  He gets my vote, if these are the criteria.

Anishinaabe
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And you'd be quite wrong.  Solomon had his issues to be sure, but he is not remotely in the same category with the ones I listed as Scripture clearly states:
    Balaam--Num. 31:16; II Pet. 2:15; Jude vs. 11; Rev. 2:14
    Jeroboam--II Kings 17:21 FF
    Ahab--I Kings 21:25
    Manasseh--II Kings 24:3-4
 
Anchor said:
prophet said:
...That would put Solomon in pole position.  He gets my vote, if these are the criteria.

Anishinaabe
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And you'd be quite wrong.  Solomon had his issues to be sure, but he is not remotely in the same category with the ones I listed as Scripture clearly states:
    Balaam--Num. 31:16; II Pet. 2:15; Jude vs. 11; Rev. 2:14
    Jeroboam--II Kings 17:21 FF
    Ahab--I Kings 21:25
    Manasseh--II Kings 24:3-4
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Solomon built the temples to his wives' gods, which remained a stumbling block, perpetually, to Israel.
Even the Arab mythology points back to Solomon, as well as Masonic teachings.
The whole world reels from the combining of truth with error.
Anishinaabe
 
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