The next time KJVO is 'discussed here'...

[Tarheel Baptist]

 
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/3-ways-graciously-engage-kjv-believers/

 

[brianb]

 
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/3-ways-graciously-engage-kjv-believers/

I get a sense that with less people reading their Bibles (most have a modern version) there is less interest in the debate.  If they dont't read the Bible (a modern version) they have and don't know what the KJV says, they won't even know the differences.  And people like James White don't just critique the KJV - they critique other Bibles that include even the story about the woman caught in adultery (in Bible geek circles it's called the Pericope Adulterae) because it wasn't found in the scriptures until the 4th and 5th century (or at least there is no surviving record of it from before then).
 

 

[Twisted]

 
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/3-ways-graciously-engage-kjv-believers/

The article is actually an ad for his new book.

I stand with Ruckman.  He read all versions of the Bible.  I have many myself.

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

 
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/3-ways-graciously-engage-kjv-believers/

The article is actually an ad for his new book.

I stand with Ruckman.  He read all versions of the Bible.  I have many myself.

New being a relative term, I guess.
You stand with all of the great KJVO scholars.
Ruckman, Boys, Saltder/Saluter/Salter, Bob Gray, John Hamblin and Joe McDonald.

 

[Ransom]

I stand with Ruckman.  He read all versions of the Bible.  I have many myself.

Ruckman isn't standing so much these days, as decomposing. And hopefully his influence with him. "The dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten" (Eccl. 9:5).

 

[Tarheel Baptist]

 
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/3-ways-graciously-engage-kjv-believers/

I get a sense that with less people reading their Bibles (most have a modern version) there is less interest in the debate.  If they dont't read the Bible (a modern version) they have and don't know what the KJV says, they won't even know the differences.  And people like James White don't just critique the KJV - they critique other Bibles that include even the story about the woman caught in adultery (in Bible geek circles it's called the Pericope Adulterae) because it wasn't found in the scriptures until the 4th and 5th century (or at least there is no surviving record of it from before then).

What I have found is that the KJVO debate is confined to a very narrow group of which we in the IFB culture are very familiar with.
Truthfully, many/most don't know that any such 'controversy' exists.

My experience, and my opinion, is that any time I've seen/heard a true back and forth debate on the subject, the KJVO position is left wanting in evidence and persuasion (this includes White and Waite).
Many KJVO's do sound good without any contradicting evidence.
As to the Pericope Adulterae, the early church Fathers believed it to be a true story from the life of Jesus and, to my knowledge, no modern translation omits the passage although many surround it with brackets. Some have even omitted the Pericope Adulterae because it is used by liberals to say Jesus was 'soft on sin'.

 

[brianb]

 
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/3-ways-graciously-engage-kjv-believers/

Although the KJV is my Bible in English now. I also read the Louis Segond 1910 (which despite the false promotion that it is the French KJV it's actually more like the old RV or ASV - it has significantly different readings that are not in the KJV or the TR).  This version is the one used in French speaking IFB churches because it's all they can get in print.  I also read the Martin Bible which is much older and is the French equivalent to the Geneva Bible.   

 

[Ransom]

Although the KJV is my Bible in English now. I also read the Louis Segond 1910 (which despite the false promotion that it is the French KJV it's actually more like the old RV or ASV - it has significantly different readings that are not in the KJV or the TR). This version is the one used in French speaking IFB churches because it's all they can get in print.  I also read the Martin Bible which is much older and is the French equivalent to the Geneva Bible.

Maybe 20 years or so ago, KJVers were promoting the Osterwald Bible as the French KJV. Don't see that so much anymore. Maybe they found out Jean-Frederic Osterwald was a Calvinist...

 

[prophet]

I stand with Ruckman.  He read all versions of the Bible.  I have many myself.

Ruckman isn't standing so much these days, as decomposing. And hopefully his influence with him. "The dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten" (Eccl. 9:5).

Ruckman is roasting...his body is decomposing.

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[prophet]

Although the KJV is my Bible in English now. I also read the Louis Segond 1910 (which despite the false promotion that it is the French KJV it's actually more like the old RV or ASV - it has significantly different readings that are not in the KJV or the TR). This version is the one used in French speaking IFB churches because it's all they can get in print.  I also read the Martin Bible which is much older and is the French equivalent to the Geneva Bible.

Maybe 20 years or so ago, KJVers were promoting the Osterwald Bible as the French KJV. Don't see that so much anymore. Maybe they found out Jean-Frederic Osterwald was a Calvinist...

The Calvinists who founded the NorthEastern U.S., were using the Geneva, even up until "Great Awakening" crew of Aglican priests came with the KJB.
It's as harmless as Wycliffe's translation...of the same basic texts.
The Syriac texts gave the AV translators an edge, and the rest is history.
If the m.v.'s were honest, they be closer to the Vulgate then Aleph and B, even if the weren't TR based.

No, Darby began the end, by his fraudulent "New Translation", where readings appear that aren't from the Vulgate or the TR.
And Wescott and Hort followed suit, using  hodgepodge mss to piece together a more Romish Greek text.



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[Ransom]

The Calvinists who founded the NorthEastern U.S., were using the Geneva, even up until "Great Awakening" crew of Aglican priests came with the KJB.
It's as harmless as Wycliffe's translation...of the same basic texts.

Is this interesting information perhaps something Augustine confided in to Constantine?

Wycliffe translated the Vulgate. His slavish adherence to Latin grammar is a major criticism of the first Wycliffe Bible. The Geneva translators translated from Hebrew and Greek, presumably using the 1551 Stephanus edition, for example, since it was the first English Bible to use verse numbers (and that edition was the first Greek New Testament to have them).

It is kind of fun speculating which orifice KJVers pull their history from, though.

 

[prophet]

The Calvinists who founded the NorthEastern U.S., were using the Geneva, even up until "Great Awakening" crew of Aglican priests came with the KJB.
It's as harmless as Wycliffe's translation...of the same basic texts.

Is this interesting information perhaps something Augustine confided in to Constantine?

Wycliffe translated the Vulgate. His slavish adherence to Latin grammar is a major criticism of the first Wycliffe Bible. The Geneva translators translated from Hebrew and Greek, presumably using the 1551 Stephanus edition, for example, since it was the first English Bible to use verse numbers (and that edition was the first Greek New Testament to have them).

It is kind of fun speculating which orifice KJVers pull their history from, though.

Your knee jerk reaction almost makes it look like you didn't read my post.

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