The Walking Dead

[Jubal Sackett]

Is anybody on here besides me into the Walking Dead?

Jubal Sackett

 

[Tim]

The issue of violence porn vs flesh porn comes to mind.

How many would shun Deadpool based on the flesh shown, but watch The Walking Dead non-convicted of the hard core violence.

I admit I watch films with violence - but avoid ones with sexual content. Double standard since it is all gritty and uses sin to entertain. Killing is a sin. So is showing off a naked body.

Thoughts?

 

[The Rogue Tomato]

The issue of violence porn vs flesh porn comes to mind.

How many would shun Deadpool based on the flesh shown, but watch The Walking Dead non-convicted of the hard core violence.

I admit I watch films with violence - but avoid ones with sexual content. Double standard since it is all gritty and uses sin to entertain. Killing is a sin. So is showing off a naked body.

Thoughts?

Hypocrisy is my first thought.

1. There's far more gore and blood and killing in TWD than there is in Deadpool.  And way, way, way, more evil people in it.

2. If TWD wasn't on TV, there'd be at least as much profanity in it.  It's not a matter of choice, it's a matter of the restriction of the medium.

3. TWD had its share of sexual themes, including a "loving homosexual couple", at least two instances of a man stealing or attempting to steal another man's wife, etc.  Not even Deadpool had that.

And last, but not least, the content in Deadpool was meant for COMEDY.  When Deadpool breaks all the bones in his own hands and foot, or cuts off his hand to get out of a handcuff, it's meant to be cartoonish fun.  When someone in TWD blows a zombie's head apart, it's meant to look real and serious. 

So if you watch TWD, but think it's unholy to watch Deadpool, you're a hypocrite.

 

[Tim]

The issue of violence porn vs flesh porn comes to mind.

How many would shun Deadpool based on the flesh shown, but watch The Walking Dead non-convicted of the hard core violence.

I admit I watch films with violence - but avoid ones with sexual content. Double standard since it is all gritty and uses sin to entertain. Killing is a sin. So is showing off a naked body.

Thoughts?

Hypocrisy is my first thought.

1. There's far more gore and blood and killing in TWD than there is in Deadpool.  And way, way, way, more evil people in it.

2. If TWD wasn't on TV, there'd be at least as much profanity in it.  It's not a matter of choice, it's a matter of the restriction of the medium.

3. TWD had its share of sexual themes, including a "loving homosexual couple", at least two instances of a man stealing or attempting to steal another man's wife, etc.  Not even Deadpool had that.


So if you watch TWD, but think it's unholy to watch Deadpool, you're a hypocrite.

The violence is too extreme for me to watch The Walking Dead. But, unlike nudity in a film (where I am universally against), I do find myself allowing violence and profanity with less pause.

 

[The Rogue Tomato]

The issue of violence porn vs flesh porn comes to mind.

How many would shun Deadpool based on the flesh shown, but watch The Walking Dead non-convicted of the hard core violence.

I admit I watch films with violence - but avoid ones with sexual content. Double standard since it is all gritty and uses sin to entertain. Killing is a sin. So is showing off a naked body.

Thoughts?

Hypocrisy is my first thought.

1. There's far more gore and blood and killing in TWD than there is in Deadpool.  And way, way, way, more evil people in it.

2. If TWD wasn't on TV, there'd be at least as much profanity in it.  It's not a matter of choice, it's a matter of the restriction of the medium.

3. TWD had its share of sexual themes, including a "loving homosexual couple", at least two instances of a man stealing or attempting to steal another man's wife, etc.  Not even Deadpool had that.


So if you watch TWD, but think it's unholy to watch Deadpool, you're a hypocrite.

The violence is too extreme for me to watch The Walking Dead. But, unlike nudity in a film (where I am universally against), I do find myself allowing violence and profanity with less pause.

I have no problem watching the violence in TWD.  There's no part of my brain that doesn't realize it's fake.  The only way I get disturbed by movie/TV violence is when they can create an atmosphere that truly suspends my disbelief.  And TWD doesn't do that. 

The irony is that Deadpool doesn't even TRY to get you to suspend disbelief.  The comedic theme of Deadpool is that he knows he's in a movie and breaks the fourth wall.  In one scene, he even looks at the camera and says "you don't want to see this", and then reaches out and points the camera in a different direction.  The movie doesn't even WANT you to think the violence is real. 

 

[Tim]

The issue of violence porn vs flesh porn comes to mind.

How many would shun Deadpool based on the flesh shown, but watch The Walking Dead non-convicted of the hard core violence.

I admit I watch films with violence - but avoid ones with sexual content. Double standard since it is all gritty and uses sin to entertain. Killing is a sin. So is showing off a naked body.

Thoughts?

Hypocrisy is my first thought.

1. There's far more gore and blood and killing in TWD than there is in Deadpool.  And way, way, way, more evil people in it.

2. If TWD wasn't on TV, there'd be at least as much profanity in it.  It's not a matter of choice, it's a matter of the restriction of the medium.

3. TWD had its share of sexual themes, including a "loving homosexual couple", at least two instances of a man stealing or attempting to steal another man's wife, etc.  Not even Deadpool had that.


So if you watch TWD, but think it's unholy to watch Deadpool, you're a hypocrite.

The violence is too extreme for me to watch The Walking Dead. But, unlike nudity in a film (where I am universally against), I do find myself allowing violence and profanity with less pause.

I have no problem watching the violence in TWD.  There's no part of my brain that doesn't realize it's fake.  The only way I get disturbed by movie/TV violence is when they can create an atmosphere that truly suspends my disbelief.  And TWD doesn't do that. 

The irony is that Deadpool doesn't even TRY to get you to suspend disbelief.  The comedic theme of Deadpool is that he knows he's in a movie and breaks the fourth wall.  In one scene, he even looks at the camera and says "you don't want to see this", and then reaches out and points the camera in a different direction.  The movie doesn't even WANT you to think the violence is real.

See. With me nudity is always real. Violence is always fake. That is why I can allow some violence. I know it is fake.

 

[The Rogue Tomato]

See. With me nudity is always real. Violence is always fake. That is why I can allow some violence. I know it is fake.

You mean nudity, or sex?  If sex, then that's actually a bit similar to a mental disorder, like a person who equates playing the violin with sex, and can't separate the two.  I would consider it a mental disorder if you are incapable of seeing a sex scene as being fake. 

I'm so aware of sex scenes being fake (and pointless) that I find them intolerably boring.  That's why I fast forward through them when I watch movies on Netflix.

Nudity is a different issue.  Deadpool is nude in a fight scene.  He's completely covered in some sort of latex/makeup to show that his whole body is disfigured.  So it's not truly "nudity". 

As for just plain nudity, I assume you refuse to look at Michelangelo's sculpture of David, then?

 

[Tim]

See. With me nudity is always real. Violence is always fake. That is why I can allow some violence. I know it is fake.

virtually everything about tv and movies is faked...... with todays technology and movie tricks you never know what you are really seeing or not seeing...... ... and even nudity is faked sometimes too...... in fact more than you realize......  ... and even when it can;t be it;s seldom ever the real actress or actor you are seeing......  almost all well known people in movies and tv have non-nudity clauses in their contracts.... meaning any time nudity is required for a scene a stand in or body double is used to film it.... the same way a stunt person is used for dangerous action scenes.....  and neither one of those two things bothers me all that much in a movie.....

the only thing not fake in tv and movies is the language and dialogue...... what you are hearing is what you are hearing..... and i do believe they go overboard with that sometimes.... . even on tv.... but even then censorship of what was actually said does little more than insult the intelligence of the viewer..... it does nothing to make the show any better.... in fact i makes it practically unwatchable.......

i use to like watching some of the discovery channel shows..... but few things irritate me more when trying to watch anything on tv than hearing constant bleeps where they have to edit out some cuss word the person said........ if a person is so profane... or so stupid...  that they can;t even control their language when they know the show they are being filmed for is going to be broadcast on television then they are in the wrong line of work........  i would just as soon hear the real words than a line of irritating bleeps.....  and kids aren;t fooled when they hear that either.....  they know what the person is saying is obscene.... and if their lip reading ability is as good as mine was at that age then they know what was said too.........

What I was trying to say is that murder in the movies is generally not an actual murder being filmed. But, nudity is a representation of nakedness - a shame. It might be digitally manipulated or a body double - but the fact still remains that you are looking at nakedness.

My viewing standards probably should be even tighter - I should probably limit my intake of language and adult situations. But, for me, the naked body on film is a clear violation of what a Christian should be watching. Extreme violence & language bother me and I stay away from that generally as well.

 

[Jubal Sackett]

With the exception of the walkers I think it's a fairly accurate portrayal of what would happen if society was to break down. Of course there would be a lot more people. At least there be for a while.

Juba Sackett

 

[switcher]

Is anybody on here besides me into the Walking Dead?

Jubal Sackett

I am. Got hooked on the very first episode. Don't know why, though, I don't like gore and violence. I think it was the story of people surviving and working together to survive. If it gets too intense, I look away and/or mute the sound.

 

[Jubal Sackett]

I see the end of our civilization as a business opportunity. If such occurs I intend to set myself up as a warlord or clan chief.

Jubal Sackett