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How does that match with us saying we believe in the possibility of ongoing demonic activity yet rejecting Carlson’s baseless claims admittedly absent any evidence?
Tucker Carlson thinks nuclear technology was created by demons
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that;s funny coming from you.... . the guy who accuses everyone that disagrees with your political stance as having sold their soul to a political party... .. ... and funnier still when you are talking about ekk.. . the guy who labels everyone not in agreement with him on middle east issues as a zionist... .. ..... in fact the discussion doesn;t even have to be about israel or the middle east and he labels us zionists....I know what you mean. The things that she knows about me that I don't know myself. Incredible.
It doesn't match with rejecting. It matches with ridiculing.
And his claims are not baseless. You might disagree, as I do. You might ridicule, but you can't call them baseless. He kicked off his twitter debut talking about his takeaways from the congressional hearings and the flood of headlines regarding that intelligence whistleblower, who said that much of our most advanced tech was gained by reverse engineering UFO crashes.
Because he's Christian, his explanation of the alien/UFO phenomena, i.e. the widespread reports thereof, is that they're demonic. Because he's Catholic, he will more readily accept some superstitious notions, and be open about it.
Even so, he didn't claim that nuclear tech was 'created' by demons. He said be believes the science was handed over by demons. I think it's absolutely possible that there was some nudging in that direction from the Prince and Power of the Air.
Scripture gives solid evidence that demons understand the nature of matter and can manipulate it at the 'quantum' level.
And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and they did so as the LORD had commanded: and Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh, and before his servants, and it became a serpent. Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments. For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods. - Exodus 7:10-12
It's perfectly natural to think Satan could have had a hand in dispensing some of that knowledge.
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and also living in your heads rent free......
Haven’t you learned anything???
well at least you learned something... .
.. .. .. good if you could remember it now and then...... 
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I’ll give you credit, that was a pretty good response.and also living in your heads rent free......
well at least you learned something... .
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so you are not involved with either RLDS or LDS?..... . good.... .
i;ll get straight to the point so as not to hijack this thread further.... do the RLDS completely reject the teachings and blasphemies of joseph smith?........ .... and by that i mean do they put any stock in his claims to have found golden plates buried in the ground that only he could translate?... ....
also - do they believe smith had an encounter with an angel named moroni?.....(speaking of demons... that could have been one if he didn;t make the whole thing up)..... i noticed the golden statue of moroni is not on the steeple of RLDS church like it is the mormon ones.... i found that encouraging.... . ....... and also do they reject mormon teachings that a faithful temple mormon who has earned his 32 degrees - and married multiple wives either by face to face marriage or marrying dead women by proxy - will become a god after his death and rule over his own planet?......
the whole point (in mormon lore) for having multiple wives is so a temple mormon once he had become a god can populate his own planet........ ... and the main reason they became so obsessed with genealogy and with studying historical records of virtual all humans on earth is so they can identify women from the past who were never married..... and then have temple mormon men marry them by proxy...... . if those women were never saved or baptized the mormons will allow themselves to be baptized for them also by proxy.... ......... this ceremony makes up the majority of what occurs in any mormon temple..... .
one of the official mormon mantras - which i have heard many times from mormons living here in hawaii - says .. as man is now god once was.... as god is now man may become...
and of course there is the issue of the "holy" underwear..... i hope they don;t follow that mormon tradition.......
another thing joseph smith taught was that the bible as we know it was only relevant in the eastern hemisphere..... .. he taught that the book of mormon was the holy book and word of god for the western hemisphere.......... ...i have seen pictures of the painting in the mormon tabernacle of salt lake city that illustrates this belief....
there is a lot more than that.... .. but i will leave it there..... ...
well.... here;s the thing....... if they rejected the teachings of the first joseph smith - then why retain any part of the name smith gave the mormon church?....... ..why let there be any confusion about it at all?...... ... and as far as joseph smiths "assassination" - i heard and read multiple different accounts of how that happened.... ... the only thing people agree on was that it happened in a prison and smith died at the hand of a mob...... they also agree smith was not being held in a cell when he died and many say smith was armed at the time.... and some say he even shot at the rioters outside the prison from a window..... that last group maintains that smith and his followers were trying to orchestrate a jail break - and that the mob had showed up in an attempt to stop it.............
remember.... all these people i talked to about that incident were mormons themselves.... i even saw a few arguments break out between them over disagreements on the details......
well then.... like the RLDS who foster confusion by retaining part of the mormon label.... you provoke these eroneous assumptions from others by using that same RLDS label to describe your early church experience....... have they ever thought of calling themselves something else or joining in with different congregation?....
cool pictures... . and thanks for the offer... .. but i have never been east of the rocky mountains... . and probably will never even venture that far east again..... ... so it;s doubtful i will ever visit independence missouri.....Yes it is.
Here's a pic I submitted to a contest sponsored by the local paper. I purchased the old photo of the Jail House from the historical society and employed that old "rephotography" technique. Frank James spent some time there.
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Here's a photo that includes the Truman home.
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The spire of the Community of Christ Temple is visible from the Bingham-Waggoner estate. (This is the pic you wanted to see.)
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This one's a publicity photo we took for the local community theatre production of "Harvey," by Mary Chase...(lol. I always
chuckle when I say "Mary Chase.") We set up in one of the retro diners on the square. You can see the historical county courthouse in the background.
Oh, and if the pic reminds you somewhat of that "Nighthawks" painting, that was the vibe we were going for.
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Anyway, let me know if you ever come to town, and I'll show you around.
here;s a couple of stock pictures of the mormon temple in laie hawaii.... north shore of oahu...... they actually own and govern the entire town of laie..... . brigham young university is very close by to this... plus they also have "stake house" churches here and there all over the state...... ..a huge presence here - like i said.. .. but thankfully still a small minority compared to other groups and cultures.....
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Them Mormons can build. I'll give them that.
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it;s been known to happen... .... now and then.... .I’ll give you credit, that was a pretty good response.
when the better angels awaken and the wolf is asleep.....
Because they weren't converted from "Mormonism." They merely reorganized, and their president was receiving new revelations about how to proceed. He was either a liar or he was talking to demons, but it was political expediency that they shed themselves of the polygamy and other more extreme trappings of the cult.
Before the split, when they first settled in Missouri, they stole the land on the basis of their own brand of Zionism. They were the true children of Abraham, and God had given this land, Zion, the New Jerusalem, to them. They were run out by the state militia. But when they came back, their Zionism took on a more spiritual nature, and so they were tolerated. They no longer could be properly called a cult in the sense that we use the word.
I don't know all the details, but the LDS church has a whole temple cultus with two orders of priesthood and rites derived from their wackadoodle reading of the Old Testament and new revelations. The RLDS spiritualized all that, and by all outward appearances, operate like an orthodox Christian church.
The Mormon name wasn't a name they adopted for themselves. They called themselves The Church of Christ. It was given by outsiders after the publication of the Book of Mormon, which I've read cover to cover. It's their divine record of the original inhabitants of the Americas, who are really Jews who migrated across the Atlantic to avoid the Babylonian destruction of Jerusalem. I understand that the LDS and RLDS versions differ from one another. There is another version I'm familiar with called The Record of the Nephites which is/was published by one of the many factions that fell from LDS movement, The Church of Christ with the Elijah Message. (Elijah was appearing to their prophets. I don't know if that faction even operates any more.) But Mormon was the last contributor to the record, and he was the one who is supposed to have buried the records that Smith found by divine revelation.
It wasn't until later the LDS church accepted the Mormon name as distinctive. The RLDS never did. I was speaking with an anachronism when I said the reorganized church shed the trappings of Mormonism. It's just easier that way and is less wordy.
In short, the Book of Mormon is the record of a single Jewish family that moved to the Americas, and gave rise to two groups, the Nephites and the Lamanites. The Lamanites forsook the law, and were marked by dark skin. The Nephites were righteous and stayed white as Europeans. The Lamanites made war constantly with the Nephites. After Christ's ascension in the East, He landed in North America, many believe where Independence is now, and began another three-year ministry with another 12 disciples. Then He leaves again, and the church grows, but then falls away again, and instead of being turned into redskins, they are completely wiped out by the Lamanites, except for three (I think) Nephites who were rewarded with immortality along with St. John, and who still walk among us and visit a congregation from time to time though always 'unawares'. Typically is afterward that someone is 'given to know' that the stranger that visited them was one of the Nephites.
The Mormon missionary efforts with the American indians were a direct cause of many Indian and settler skirmishes, the Black Hawk Wars being a notable one. They were being taught they were sons of Abraham, the chosen people, and that they have divine right to the land.
The LDS Scriptures are the KJV, the Book of Mormon, The Doctrine and Covenants (which is their collection of revelations given to the president of the church), and The Pearl of Great Price.
The RLDS Scriptures are the Inspired Version (the 'corrected' KJV), the Book of Mormon, and their own Doctrine and Covenants.
After being run out of Missouri, the settled in Illinois, and turned swampland into a veritable paradise. They called it Nauvoo, meaning "Beautiful".
The LDS (and RLDS) are a factious people. Countless little cults cropped up, and they made enemies everywhere they went. The first issue of the paper published in Nauvoo was critical of Smith. So he burned the office down and declared martial law, which got him and his brother arrested and incarcerated in Carthage, Illinois (Not Carthage, MO). That was when the jail was stormed and he and his brother were shot. And yeah, someone previously smuggled in a gun. The Mormons believed they lived by a higher law. They were the Israelites. God himself was walking and talking with them. Everyone else was false, so Smith's incarceration was an injustice...to them.
It took them a while, but they did just that. They call themselves the Community of Christ, now. This was over a controversial revelation given that said women could serve in the priesthood. This controversy was raging when I was dating Tammy...the RLDS girl I spoke of earlier. So there was another major split. The owners of the RLDS name received the prophecy, the splinter group didn't. The RLDS changed their name to CoC, and the splinter group became The Church of Jesus Christ Restored, or, the Restoration Branch or some such designation. I don't keep up with it.
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Just want to say here, if a certain FFF denizen is lurking, Im anticipating his response to reinterpret John the Revelator...