Tucker Carlson thinks nuclear technology was created by demons

Ransom said:
You'll have to excuse Ekklesian, as he believes a whole lot of things he can't explain are attributable to demons: ghosts, alien abductions, nuclear power, what makes the next Kleenex pop up...

He hasn't shed the Manichean nonsense he was infected with while a Pentecostal. You can take the man out of Charismania, but you can't get the Charismania out of the man quite as easily.
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“next Kleenex pop up” 😂

Did you come up with that?
 
Ekklesian said:
…But they know what man does have the power to do. What would keep them from dispensing that knowledge?
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What are you suggesting? The demons gave the nuclear researchers the knowledge for the atomic weapon? If so, the same epistemological question applies to you as it does to Carson. How do you know that? What tangible evidence leads you to that suggestion or conclusion?
 
Carlson's attitude of "I can't explain nuclear technology, so it must be demons" reminds me of that infamous debate another Fox personality, Bill O'Reilly, had with American Atheists president David Silverman around 15 years ago. O'Reilly argued, in defence of God's existence: "Tide goes in, tide goes out, there’s never a miscommunication. You can’t explain that."

(Except, of course, that a grade-schooler could explain that. To be fair to Tucker, he's claiming ignorance of something that requires something beyond high school-level science.)

It's a classic "God-of-the-gaps" argument: a fallacy, kind of, where gaps in scientific knowledge are cited as evidence of God's existence. O'Reilly unfortunately chose a bad example where no "gap" actually exists, but the principle is the same.

And so is Carlson's, except that instead of a God of the gaps, it's a demon of the gaps. He doesn't know about the development of nuclear physics, therefore demons must have given it to humans. Ditto some of the other things that often get cited as "demonic": UFOs, alien abductions, and so forth.

It is, in fact, more fundamentally true that God did it--even when it comes to something as simple as the tides. But that doesn't preclude the possibility of a more naturalistic explanation: the moon's gravity pulls the water up. If a child asks why there are tides, "God did it" isn't the answer he's looking for. We don't immediately go to the least plausible or least helpful explanation.

The same is true for UFOs: "they're demons" is no more plausible than "they're from other planets." It's possible, but not probable: more likely, they're cases of mistaken identity or deception. And this is also true as well of nuclear technology: it's well documented how the model of the atom developed over time, along with evolving understanding of such things as radioactivity or nuclear fission, culminating in about 1938 in the actual splitting of a uranium atom for the first time. Didn't come out of nowhere.
 
ALAYMAN said:
What are you suggesting? The demons gave the nuclear researchers the knowledge for the atomic weapon?
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For the second or third time, no.

I'm saying that it comes more from a secular worldview than a bibilical one to laugh and scoff at the idea. And neither have you nor the flat universer done anything to dispel that notion.

The Deep State is banking on that secularism when it pushes the narrative on conservatives in order in hopes of discrediting them. So congrats on being manipulated instead of thinking for yourself.


ALAYMAN said:
If so, the same epistemological question applies to you as it does to Carson. How do you know that? What tangible evidence leads you to that suggestion or conclusion?
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For the third or fourth time, that's not my conclusion, so, no, it doesn't apply to me. Quit reframing the question.

If you'd like we can discuss how a biblical cosmolgy is antithetical to the idea of UFOs and ETs, and whether or not there is anything to the 20 million accounts of alien visitation and abduction, and what a biblical explanation might be.
 
Ekklesian said:
For the second or third time, no.

I'm saying that it comes more from a secular worldview than a bibilical one to laugh and scoff at the idea. And neither have you nor the flat universer done anything to dispel that notion.

The Deep State is banking on that secularism when it pushes the narrative on conservatives in order in hopes of discrediting them. So congrats on being manipulated instead of thinking for yourself.



For the third or fourth time, that's not my conclusion, so, no, it doesn't apply to me. Quit reframing the question.

If you'd like we can discuss how a biblical cosmolgy is antithetical to the idea of UFOs and ETs, and whether or not there is anything to the 20 million accounts of alien visitation and abduction, and what a biblical explanation might be.
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So the simple point you’re trying to make has to do with the fact that secularists don’t believe in the supernatural? If that was Carlson’s point he sure made it with a grand lack of eloquence.
 
ALAYMAN said:
So the simple point you’re trying to make has to do with the fact that secularists don’t believe in the supernatural? If that was Carlson’s point he sure made it with a grand lack of eloquence.
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To say nothing of the mental gymnastics you would have to do to rationalize that interpretation.
 
ALAYMAN said:
So the simple point you’re trying to make has to do with the fact that secularists don’t believe in the supernatural? If that was Carlson’s point he sure made it with a grand lack of eloquence.
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Lol. You're sandbagging. My point it that you have a world view more influenced by secularism than by the Bible.
 
Ekklesian said:
Lol. You're sandbagging. My point it that you have a world view more influenced by secularism than by the Bible.
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By all means, please sustain your equally ludicrous Carlson-like claim that my rejection of demons being the real culprits in the development of nuclear fission is an extension of secularism.
 
ALAYMAN said:
By all means, please sustain your equally ludicrous Carlson-like claim that my rejection of demons being the real culprits in the development of nuclear fission is an extension of secularism.
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Well, clearly, you are a secularist to the extent that you don't believe a supernatural entity is the direct, efficient cause of everything that happens.

Natural phenomena? Cause and effect? Secularism.
 
ALAYMAN said:
By all means, please sustain your equally ludicrous Carlson-like claim that my rejection of demons being the real culprits in the development of nuclear fission is an extension of secularism.
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The fundy mind is indeed a curious thing. You're told over and over, it's not the rejection, it's the ridicule. But you insist on reframing it.

And what I offered to discuss was how a biblical cosmolgy is antithetical to the idea of UFOs and ETs, and whether or not there is anything to the 20 million accounts of alien visitation and abduction, and what a biblical explanation might be.
 
Ekklesian said:
The fundy mind is indeed a curious thing. You're told over and over, it's not the rejection, it's the ridicule. But you insist on reframing it.
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Well get to it. Show the connection between my thinking as it relates to Carlson and the OP. Feel free to use quotes or other things that I’ve said to demonstrate proof of your misguided claim.
Ekklesian said:
And what I offered to discuss was how a biblical cosmolgy is antithetical to the idea of UFOs and ETs, and whether or not there is anything to the 20 million accounts of alien visitation and abduction, and what a biblical explanation might be.
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Bait and switch. Non sequitur. Moving the goal post. Take your pick.
 
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