Verses Freebirds ignore or misunderstand when reading their Bibles.

[ALAYMAN]

1 Samuel 16:7 But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.

 

[Recovering IFB]

How about this one?
Ez 23:20 and lusted after her lovers there, whose members were like those of donkeys, and whose issue was like that of horses.

 

[The Rogue Tomato]

How about this one?
Ez 23:20 and lusted after her lovers there, whose members were like those of donkeys, and whose issue was like that of horses.

Or this one...

Song of Solomon 4:5 Your two breasts are like two fawns, Twins of a gazelle, Which feed among the lilies.

 

[bgwilkinson]

How about this one?
Ez 23:20 and lusted after her lovers there, whose members were like those of donkeys, and whose issue was like that of horses.

Anyone that has worked with those animals knows exactly what that means.

This might be be better on the verses IFBs ignore while reading their Bibles.

It would be embarrassing for a non farmer to discuss this I suppose.

 

[The Rogue Tomato]

How about this one?
Ez 23:20 and lusted after her lovers there, whose members were like those of donkeys, and whose issue was like that of horses.

Anyone that has worked with those animals knows exactly what that means.

This might be be better on the verses IFBs ignore while reading their Bibles.

It would be embarrassing for a non farmer to discuss this I suppose.

How did she know those guys had donkey schlongs issuing like horses?  Were there pornographic wall carvings? 

 

[subllibrm]

How about this one?
Ez 23:20 and lusted after her lovers there, whose members were like those of donkeys, and whose issue was like that of horses.

Anyone that has worked with those animals knows exactly what that means.

This might be be better on the verses IFBs ignore while reading their Bibles.

It would be embarrassing for a non farmer to discuss this I suppose.

How did she know those guys had donkey schlongs issuing like horses?  Were there pornographic wall carvings?

I have always wondered why Zeke used this illustration to make the point.  To take Mater's question further. Since he was talking to the Jews were they heavily into comparing the endowments of men? Bestiality? Or was it just for shock value? And if it was, what would be a comparable illustration for the church be today?

 

[subllibrm]

1 Chronicles 26:18

18 At Parbar westward, four at the causeway, and two at Parbar.

 

[bgwilkinson]

How about this one?
Ez 23:20 and lusted after her lovers there, whose members were like those of donkeys, and whose issue was like that of horses.

Anyone that has worked with those animals knows exactly what that means.

This might be be better on the verses IFBs ignore while reading their Bibles.

It would be embarrassing for a non farmer to discuss this I suppose.

How did she know those guys had donkey schlongs issuing like horses?  Were there pornographic wall carvings?

Anyone that has been involved with the planned breeding of animals has seen that aforementioned often.

Those involved with collecting and selling the output actually measure the liquid quantity.

Obviously the Bible writer was well accustomed with the breeding of animals and the collection of biological fluid.

The use of a device like a turkey baster is elementary on a farm.

 

[The Rogue Tomato]

How about this one?
Ez 23:20 and lusted after her lovers there, whose members were like those of donkeys, and whose issue was like that of horses.

Anyone that has worked with those animals knows exactly what that means.

This might be be better on the verses IFBs ignore while reading their Bibles.

It would be embarrassing for a non farmer to discuss this I suppose.

How did she know those guys had donkey schlongs issuing like horses?  Were there pornographic wall carvings?

Anyone that has been involved with the planned breeding of animals has seen that aforementioned often.

Those involved with collecting and selling the output actually measure the liquid quantity.

Obviously the Bible writer was well accustomed with the breeding of animals and the collection of biological fluid.

The use of a device like a turkey baster is elementary on a farm.

That explains how she knew about animals, but how did she know there were guys like that, too?

 

[bgwilkinson]

How about this one?
Ez 23:20 and lusted after her lovers there, whose members were like those of donkeys, and whose issue was like that of horses.

Anyone that has worked with those animals knows exactly what that means.

This might be be better on the verses IFBs ignore while reading their Bibles.

It would be embarrassing for a non farmer to discuss this I suppose.

How did she know those guys had donkey schlongs issuing like horses?  Were there pornographic wall carvings?

Anyone that has been involved with the planned breeding of animals has seen that aforementioned often.

Those involved with collecting and selling the output actually measure the liquid quantity.

Obviously the Bible writer was well accustomed with the breeding of animals and the collection of biological fluid.

The use of a device like a turkey baster is elementary on a farm.

That explains how she knew about animals, but how did she know there were guys like that, too?

We are talking about prostitutes knowing are we not, I think they would have a professional well studied opinion in the matter

John Gill fills us in.

"For she doted upon their paramours,.... Or "concubines" (z); the neighbouring nations and allies of the Egyptians, whose friendship the Jews courted, and whose idols they served: the Septuagint and Arabic versions wrongly read the Chaldeans:

whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses; by "flesh" is meant the "membrum virile", which in asses is very large, and therefore dedicated to Priapus by the Heathens; and vast is the profusion of seed in coitus by horses, to which the flesh and issue of the Egyptian paramours are compared; who were very libidinous, and therefore desirable to insatiable women; all which serves to express the eagerness of the people of the Jews after idolatry."

(z) ??????? "equecubinas eorum", Vatablus, so Junius & Tremellius, Polanus; "concubitores", Munster, Tigurine version; "cinaedos", Castalio; and, as Ben Melech observes, these were men, and not women.

 

[ALAYMAN]

1Ti_1:4  Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

 

[The Rogue Tomato]

1Ti_1:4  Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

Proverbs 11:26 People curse the one who hoards grain, but they pray God?s blessing on the one who is willing to sell.

 

[subllibrm]

How about this one?
Ez 23:20 and lusted after her lovers there, whose members were like those of donkeys, and whose issue was like that of horses.

Anyone that has worked with those animals knows exactly what that means.

This might be be better on the verses IFBs ignore while reading their Bibles.

It would be embarrassing for a non farmer to discuss this I suppose.

How did she know those guys had donkey schlongs issuing like horses?  Were there pornographic wall carvings?

Anyone that has been involved with the planned breeding of animals has seen that aforementioned often.

Those involved with collecting and selling the output actually measure the liquid quantity.

Obviously the Bible writer was well accustomed with the breeding of animals and the collection of biological fluid.

The use of a device like a turkey baster is elementary on a farm.

That explains how she knew about animals, but how did she know there were guys like that, too?

We are talking about prostitutes knowing are we not, I think they would have a professional well studied opinion in the matter

John Gill fills us in.

"For she doted upon their paramours,.... Or "concubines" (z); the neighbouring nations and allies of the Egyptians, whose friendship the Jews courted, and whose idols they served: the Septuagint and Arabic versions wrongly read the Chaldeans:

whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses; by "flesh" is meant the "membrum virile", which in asses is very large, and therefore dedicated to Priapus by the Heathens; and vast is the profusion of seed in coitus by horses, to which the flesh and issue of the Egyptian paramours are compared; who were very libidinous, and therefore desirable to insatiable women; all which serves to express the eagerness of the people of the Jews after idolatry."

(z) ??????? "equecubinas eorum", Vatablus, so Junius & Tremellius, Polanus; "concubitores", Munster, Tigurine version; "cinaedos", Castalio; and, as Ben Melech observes, these were men, and not women.

And I will ask again. How would the average Jew know what was desirable to an insatiable prostitute?

 

[bgwilkinson]

How about this one?
Ez 23:20 and lusted after her lovers there, whose members were like those of donkeys, and whose issue was like that of horses.

Anyone that has worked with those animals knows exactly what that means.

This might be be better on the verses IFBs ignore while reading their Bibles.

It would be embarrassing for a non farmer to discuss this I suppose.

How did she know those guys had donkey schlongs issuing like horses?  Were there pornographic wall carvings?

Anyone that has been involved with the planned breeding of animals has seen that aforementioned often.

Those involved with collecting and selling the output actually measure the liquid quantity.

Obviously the Bible writer was well accustomed with the breeding of animals and the collection of biological fluid.

The use of a device like a turkey baster is elementary on a farm.

That explains how she knew about animals, but how did she know there were guys like that, too?

We are talking about prostitutes knowing are we not, I think they would have a professional well studied opinion in the matter

John Gill fills us in.

"For she doted upon their paramours,.... Or "concubines" (z); the neighbouring nations and allies of the Egyptians, whose friendship the Jews courted, and whose idols they served: the Septuagint and Arabic versions wrongly read the Chaldeans:

whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses; by "flesh" is meant the "membrum virile", which in asses is very large, and therefore dedicated to Priapus by the Heathens; and vast is the profusion of seed in coitus by horses, to which the flesh and issue of the Egyptian paramours are compared; who were very libidinous, and therefore desirable to insatiable women; all which serves to express the eagerness of the people of the Jews after idolatry."

(z) ??????? "equecubinas eorum", Vatablus, so Junius & Tremellius, Polanus; "concubitores", Munster, Tigurine version; "cinaedos", Castalio; and, as Ben Melech observes, these were men, and not women.

And I will ask again. How would the average Jew know what was desirable to an insatiable prostitute?

Here is a description of the average Jew as a culture of whores.

Eze 23:3  And they committed whoredoms in Egypt; they committed whoredoms in their youth: there were their breasts pressed, and there they bruised the teats of their virginity.

They were farming culture. The whole subject of reproduction was indelibly embedded in their memories. They were around animals constantly. What else do do think they had on their minds?

 

[ALAYMAN]

Gal 5: 13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only [use] not liberty for an occasion to the flesh,...

 

[Recovering IFB]

Galatians 3:2Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?

 

[The Rogue Tomato]

Galatians 3:2Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?

Let me guess.  We're perfected by the flesh ... er ... willfully cooperating with the Spirit. 

 

[Izdaari]

Freebird = Anyone who disagrees with an IFB's (per)version of Christianity.

I guess that makes me one.



I much prefer following scripture rather than the IFB tradition of the last few years.

If that's the definition, I must be one too. Though I'm not aware of any Bible verses that I ignore, though there quite a few I interpret differently than IFB's do.

 

[Recovering IFB]

Galatians 3:2Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?

Let me guess.  We're perfected by the flesh ... er ... willfully cooperating with the Spirit.

That's right, working side by side; sleeves rolled depending on each other because either one of us can do it alone. 

 

[PappaBear]

So-called "Freebirds" have a great disconnect between evanglism and Christian living.  They seem to firmly believe that it is best to hide any cross-bearing or commandment keeping in order to attract others into the fold.

However, Christ in the great commission included that we are to teach the new converts to "observe whatsoever I HAVE COMMANDED YOU." (Matt 28:20)  Yes, there are commands in the New Testament for Christians to obey.

But I was amazed the other day to find that Paul incorporated such into his witness to the lost man, Felix.

Acts 24:25  And as he reasoned of righteousness, temperance, and judgment to come, Felix trembled, and answered, Go thy way for this time; when I have a convenient season, I will call for thee.

And it worked!  Definite signs of conviction were seen.  What was that Paul reasoned with this lost man about, again?  Righteousness?!  Oh, my!  Temperance!?!  Are you kidding?  Judgment to come?  Was he kidding?  How are you going to attract people talking like that.

Luke 14:27  And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.